I know someone who didn't get a promotion because they wouldn't wait for someone to get their food. We were at a company lunch at some restaurant, and the VP was with us, and one of the level 2 guys didn't wait, the VP told me later it was rude and unacceptable. Not long after that guy didn't get a promotion he was a lock for. I thought that was pretty funny.
Ya, that's just dumb on that guy's part. That's what I meant in my last paragraph, I'll wait in situations like that, where I don't know everyone (or something work related), because I know that's what society wants. Just friends and immediate family who know me and my quirks where I won't wait. I just think it's really dumb we're that sensitive about such a minor thing like that.
Cut people off, tail someone badly, beep for a solid 5 seconds straight at someone, all acceptable behaviour apparently. But start eating before everyone has their food and you're a jerkface. Just one of those things I find silly. Maybe I'm Larry David
If I come to your office I'll just get right into why I'm there. Perhaps I'll ask if you have a moment, but to say "Hi" over and over again. Just not me.
It is different if I don't see you so regularly. If I run into you while doing some shopping or at a social gathering and I don't see you everyday or several times per week, then I'll of course greet you.
This validates my Proximity Theory of Acknowledgement
Random co-worker in hall outside your office: [Nod]
Same co-worker on the other side of the office or another floor: "Hey."
Same co-worker at the nearby coffee or lunch place: "Hey" + smile. Maybe small talk if in line together.
Same co-worker on Friday night at Earls. "Oh hey. What you are up to?" etc. etc... "See you Monday."
Same co-worker at beach in Shushwap. "Hey! Who are you here with? Honey, this is Darryl from work..." etc. etc. Probably have a beer or lunch together.
Same co-worker at bus station in Istanbul: "Woah. Oh my god! Where are you staying? Look, we gotta meet up." etc. etc. Travel together day and night for three days.
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I don't answer the front door to my house unless I know someone is coming over. Can't remember the last time I left a voicemail and usually only answer the phone for the three closest people I know. Haven't even set up my voicemail at work.
I wear jeans one day a week at work but usually never on the permitted Fridays.
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Am I the only person that will still tip zero for really bad service?
You guys should try it sometime. It's freeing.
I've never done it, but I'm also assuming you've never been on the other side.
I understand there are cases where they deserve zero, but someone who hasn't been on the other side may not. There's a difference between the restaurant being poorly managed/understaffed so the server cannot get to you vs. she's too busy flirting with the bartender to bring you water.
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I've given zero tip on a couple occasions. I'd like to think it sent a message that the services was deplorable. However, the server may have thought I was just cheap. So that's something else the cheapskates have ruined.
There's been times where people leave a crappy tip, and then a nice note saying how well I did and they're poor students or whatever. There's also been a lot of "verbal tips" where they tell you you did so good and then insult you with 1-2%.
I wear jeans one day a week at work but usually never on the permitted Fridays.
That doesn't fall under breaking social conventions/manners, that's breaking company dress code (assuming you have one and that's why everyone else dresses as such)
This validates my Proximity Theory of Acknowledgement
Random co-worker in hall outside your office: [Nod]
Same co-worker on the other side of the office or another floor: "Hey."
Same co-worker at the nearby coffee or lunch place: "Hey" + smile. Maybe small talk if in line together.
Same co-worker on Friday night at Earls. "Oh hey. What you are up to?" etc. etc... "See you Monday."
Same co-worker at beach in Shushwap. "Hey! Who are you here with? Honey, this is Darryl from work..." etc. etc. Probably have a beer or lunch together.
Same co-worker at bus station in Istanbul: "Woah. Oh my god! Where are you staying? Look, we gotta meet up." etc. etc. Travel together day and night for three days.
Wow, this reminds me a lot of this video I just saw. Go to 1:36 of the video (though the whole thing is worth a watch. His other videos are even better):
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That doesn't fall under breaking social conventions/manners, that's breaking company dress code (assuming you have one and that's why everyone else dresses as such)
It is such a big company, my manager is in Newfoundland and I've never met him. No one else would question my attire so it does feel more like a social convention.
I wear jeans 5 days a week to work during winter/fall/spring, and shorts throughout most of the summer. But that's not really a social convention, just the norm at my office. I guess if its social convention, I like to dress up once in awhile, and everytime, people would say the same "you got a job interview? har har" comment.
I've never done it, but I'm also assuming you've never been on the other side.
I understand there are cases where they deserve zero, but someone who hasn't been on the other side may not. There's a difference between the restaurant being poorly managed/understaffed so the server cannot get to you vs. she's too busy flirting with the bartender to bring you water.
I honestly don't overthink and analyze it that much. Like that guy that wrote a couple paragraphs the previous page on his careful calculations of the tip. I'm out for dinner or lunch or something, talking with my friends and eating -- good service and you'll get something, bad service and you won't.
And to TBQH, I was born and raised in a trailer park, in a little town outside of Trail. My family and I weren't given the means and opportunity a lot of other people have, and we all worked very hard to get to where we are today. If you want to lump all the people who live in parks together and paint them with one brush, that's your prerogative, but you're really showing your ignorance when you do.
Nope. Re-read your post. You sound like an uneducated, get off my lawn, only my views are acceptable and you must respect me but I don't have to respect you, bigot.
For ease here is the post.
"Like the belief that one should honour and respect the country they choose to live in? Don't like to take your hat off, or sing/hum/lipsync along to the words, or think about how lucky you are to live in such a great safe place, or honour those that fought and died to protect the freedoms you embrace? Go live in another country. You aren't a Canadian, you're a parasite feeding off the rights and freedoms of others that choose to embrace the greatness of their country and heritage."
I guess one could pray for the country to get the same benefit? We all can sit in the dome bow our heads and chant.
I say we can treat each other with respect, tell them they are welcome to do what they believe as long as they don't harm another and go on our marry way. We can then be free to choose who we wish to spend time with.
Really, it makes zero difference where you are born and raised. It's what you do that matters and what you say that matters. These actions make a good Canadian and it's not singing some song or performing a ritual that makes you more Canadian. What makes us Canadian IMO is that will pull over to help someone on the side of the road or if there is a starving person we will give them food or if the masses don't like the elected leader they can be removed. An anthem is just as ridiculous as confession and eating bread and pretending it's a dead body in Catholisism. It's fine if you believe in it, and it's fine if you don't as long as you're not forcing others to bend to your belief structure.
Also, the attempt at moral high ground was pretty funny too in the quoted post.
Nope. Re-read your post. You sound like an uneducated, get off my lawn, only my views are acceptable and you must respect me but I don't have to respect you, bigot.
For ease here is the post.
"Like the belief that one should honour and respect the country they choose to live in? Don't like to take your hat off, or sing/hum/lipsync along to the words, or think about how lucky you are to live in such a great safe place, or honour those that fought and died to protect the freedoms you embrace? Go live in another country. You aren't a Canadian, you're a parasite feeding off the rights and freedoms of others that choose to embrace the greatness of their country and heritage."
I guess one could pray for the country to get the same benefit? We all can sit in the dome bow our heads and chant.
I say we can treat each other with respect, tell them they are welcome to do what they believe as long as they don't harm another and go on our marry way. We can then be free to choose who we wish to spend time with.
Really, it makes zero difference where you are born and raised. It's what you do that matters and what you say that matters. These actions make a good Canadian and it's not singing some song or performing a ritual that makes you more Canadian. What makes us Canadian IMO is that will pull over to help someone on the side of the road or if there is a starving person we will give them food or if the masses don't like the elected leader they can be removed. An anthem is just as ridiculous as confession and eating bread and pretending it's a dead body in Catholisism. It's fine if you believe in it, and it's fine if you don't as long as you're not forcing others to bend to your belief structure.
Also, the attempt at moral high ground was pretty funny too in the quoted post.
In the same breath you say it's fine to believe in it (anthem singing) and then you say it's ridiculous at the same time.
I strongly disagree that anthem singing is ridiculous (you literally can't become Canadian unless you sing it, meaning it is a big deal), but you are playing both sides of the fence there dude.
In the same breath you say it's fine to believe in it (anthem singing) and then you say it's ridiculous at the same time.
I strongly disagree that anthem singing is ridiculous (you literally can't become Canadian unless you sing it, meaning it is a big deal), but you are playing both sides of the fence there dude.
I believe it is ridiculous, but I also believe that you have the right to do it. It's not playing sides at all. I don't do it because it's dumb to me and IMO a poor antiquated excuse to show how Canadian you are.
No you aren't being ignorant for calling anyone who lives or lived in a trailer park uneducated, or bigoted.
Here, let me go back and post for you what you posted for me:
"Ha ha ha... Trailer indeed."
Call me uneducated and bigoted, that's fine by me. I've been called worse for less by better. By rights I am uneducated. I don't have some fancy college degree to reassure me that I'm smart, and I'm fine by that. What does bug me, aside from the whole anthem issue, is your reaction to my post. "Sounds stupid. Sounds like a bigot. Look! He has 'trailer' on his name. Shocker!" You want to talk about bigotry? Crow, meet raven.
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It just seems so weird to me that removing hats has somehow become entwined with love for country. If you don't remove your hat, you hate and disrespect Canada. OK?
And in a game where there are players of many different nationalities, it simply makes no sense to me that we sing the national anthem at sporting events. What is it that makes them special? We don't do so at the opera or the CPO. My questioning this practice doesn't mean I am not a proud Canadian.
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No you aren't being ignorant for calling anyone who lives or lived in a trailer park uneducated, or bigoted.
Here, let me go back and post for you what you posted for me:
"Ha ha ha... Trailer indeed."
1. Call me uneducated and bigoted, that's fine by me.I've been called worse for less by better.2. By rights I am uneducated.3. I don't have some fancy college degree to reassure me that I'm smart, and I'm fine by that. 4. What does bug me, aside from the whole anthem issue, is your reaction to my post."Sounds stupid. Sounds like a bigot. Look! He has 'trailer' on his name. Shocker!" You want to talk about bigotry?5. Crow, meet raven.
1. You're comment made you sound bigoted and uneducated. I didn't say you were.
2. Over sharing. Your post made you sound like those Texas bigots that enjoy saying, "When you come to America you speak 'Merican or get out of my country." That's an uneducated comment as they have no extra rights then the immigrant.
3. So your saying that evey educated person here with a fancy college or university education is over compensating for something?
4. It was supposed too. It was a reaction post from (read point 2).
5. Not at all actually. Read point 1.
Now, I of all people understand losing one's #### on a topic that I believe in. I've also learned from the experience and worked at trying to present my points better, or I just avoid the topic in general if I know I'm going to loose the cannons. For the most part I think the posters on here that don't get banned are good people, with different views and beliefs, and just like Canada, that is what makes this forum great.
* Also, what made me feel like a great Canadian was taking a punch in the face standing against a racist bigot on the Transit that was harassing a group of Canadians with Asian decent. This happened back in December. My jaw wasn't right for 2 months but it felt good. THAT is being Canadian.
Ha ha ha oops that was a big typo
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Reason: * ** I did not stick up for the rasict! I stood up to him when nobody else would! *embarrassed*
1. You're comment made you sound bigoted and uneducated. I didn't say you were.
2. Over sharing. Your post made you sound like those Texas bigots that enjoy saying, "When you come to America you speak 'Merican or get out of my country." That's an uneducated comment as they have no extra rights then the immigrant.
3. So your saying that evey educated person here with a fancy college or university education is over compensating for something?
4. It was supposed too. It was a reaction post from (read point 2).
5. Not at all actually. Read point 1.
Now, I of all people understand losing one's #### on a topic that I believe in. I've also learned from the experience and worked at trying to present my points better, or I just avoid the topic in general if I know I'm going to loose the cannons. For the most part I think the posters on here that don't get banned are good people, with different views and beliefs and just like Canada that is what makes this forum great.
1. While I realize that saying and implying aren't mutually exclusive, they do pretty well go hand in hand. Saying someone "sounds" like a so-and-so is just you indirectly calling them a so-and-so.
2. I hadn't, in fact, shared anything other than my opinion before you concluded I was trailer trash. It was after the fact in which I confirmed my former trailer park status.
3. Infer it how you may. I firmly believe you don't need a college/university education to be successful in life. This isn't directed at you, but is most definitely a shot at those that think they are better than me simply for going to school an extra 4 or so years. Again, not directed at you.
4. See point 2. I still hasn't shared anything other than my opinion.
5. I'll just swing you back around to my own point 1. You can say you didn't call me those things all you want, and while a lawyer would agree, by way you still did.
I get the whole mosaic nature of Canada, and honestly it's what I love about it. There are a lot of people with a lot of different opinions and beliefs and I learn something from all of them. I also understand not wanting a national anthem at a sporting event. I don't believe it's right, but I do get it. The point I should have clarified is the poster who is begrudged by standing up and taking off his hat is the one who irked my chain.
And after going back I see the poster was indeed you. This is going to sound a lot like back peddling, but you didn't specify when you wouldn't take your hat off or stand up for the anthem. Like I said before, I understand the issue with the anthem at sporting events. However I still think it is incredibly disrespectful. Secondly, in regards to my initial response, I made it under the impression that you never stand up or take off your hat for the singing of our national anthem.
All that being said, I still stand by what I said. I don't think you deserve Canada.
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