Manners/Social Conventions You Don't Follow

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Singing the anthem isn't jingoistic or militaristic; it's a harmless recognition of our shared identity. If people can't be bothered with even that simple gesture, we have frighteningly weak bonds holding us together. There has to be more to citizenship than pooling taxes and public services.

As an immigrant this is the crux of the matter.


I have a deep love of this country and am thankful that my parents decided to move here when I was young.

I value my life in Canada and am happy to acknowledge it by singing the anthem. I also turn towards the flag and remove my hat. I am also proud that I served in my adopted country in it's military.


While I am not as over the top or angry about it as Trailer Fire I can apprecaite the sentiment of his post.

[MRCboicgy]

Originally Posted by Iggy City

When I'm at home, I sit down to pee. Much more cleaner and easier to aim in the drowsy mornings. Plus no/reduced noise.

I do this if I get up in the middle of the night, so I don't have to turn on the light to aim.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

The post above me likely hits the nail on the head. There are many who don't identify with the Canada of today, because it is not the Canada they grew up with.

What do you mean by this exactly? The song is about Canada. Should they make it a pop song to be more relevant or something?

[codynw]

Tipping nothing for bad service just makes you look cheap. If you want to get the point across, just tip 5 cents.

[Kswiss]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

I've given zero tip on a couple occasions. I'd like to think it sent a message that the services was deplorable. However, the server may have thought I was just cheap. So that's something else the cheapskates have ruined.

I think it also has to do with the entitlement factor which really annoys me. Just showing up to work is the new " your doing an awesome job"

[ResAlien]

Instead of not tipping I go take a dump in their washroom and then I don't flush. Done and done, two birds stoned at once.

[Canehdianman]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

Am I the only person that will still tip zero for really bad service?

You guys should try it sometime. It's freeing.

I find it more effective to tip $0.01. If I tip zero, then they just rationalize that I'm an ####### and that their service was good. If they see a penny as a tip, then know it was deliberate and (hopefully?) know that their service was terrible and that they should improve (or find a different job).

[Coach]

Originally Posted by codynw

Tipping nothing for bad service just makes you look cheap. If you want to get the point across, just tip 5 cents.

Agreed. If you don't tip they just think you forgot or are an ahole in general, but if you leave a small amount, they (should) know what you're trying to say.

At Seanachies, probably like 6 years ago, me and some friends were there on a Sunday and our group of 8 were the only people there except for a few other stragglers. We were visited by our server exactly twice over a 3 hour period. We began just getting our drinks from the bar. When it came time to pay up we emptied the change from our pockets. It amounted to probably 4 or 5 bucks in quarters and nickles.

Usually I'm a good tipper, but if you're not even interested in serving me, no you get sweet f*** all.

[polak]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not some anti-Canadian guy who hates the anthem. I'll stand up, I'll take my hat off, I'll show complete respect to the Anthem. I just don't see the point of it at a hockey game between two random cities where a lot of the athletes competing aren't even from the country whose anthem is being played.

IMO it should be reserved for events when we're honoring our country and where we should all be unified. Citizenship ceremonies, Soldier Funerals, Swearing in of Politicians, Events where it's all of Canada being represented...etc.

Shoving it down the peoples throats at random hockey games, at school before classes and other unimportant events will just make it lose it significance.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by Stormageddon

I hate making small talk or any of the social niceties your supposed to do when you see someone. When we go to my in-laws I strategically let my wife go in first every time so I don't have to say "hello". People then have to go through the whole, stupid "how are you? Good. How are you?" thing which sucks even more. Then they expect you to ask about other stuff. A) I don't know what to ask you outside of "How are you?" B) I really don't care about any of the answers you give me.

I do this even more so on the phone. When calling someone, they say hello, and I just dive right into my question or whatever I was calling them about, no hello, nothing.

When someone asks me "how are you" and I don't want to make small talk I just say "good thanks" and walk away or something.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

Am I the only person that will still tip zero for really bad service?

You guys should try it sometime. It's freeing.

I should have clarified. I did mention earlier in the thread I do tip 0%. I meant the lower for bad but not terrible service. If the service is extremely bad I will tip 0.

[V]

When people ask me how I am I say, "Good, thanks! You?" and when they sigh or say "meh" or something like that I say "Good!!" very emphatically and keep moving. I don't tolerate the real life version of vaguebooking.

[Sainters7]

This may have been mentioned, but when we're at a restaurant and I've been given my food, I hate having to wait to eat before the rest of the table has theirs. I think it's rude to make me have to eat a lukewarm meal because yours is gonna be another 3-5min.

That goes both ways too, if everyone has their food but me, eat up. I tell people that all the time when we're at restaurants. If you sit there and wait for me, i appreciate the gesture, but also find it extremely uncomfortable. Plus I feel guilty. Just eat already, stop being a weirdo.

That said, if I'm out with people I don't know, I'll wait, just because I know that's what society expects. But I still think it's dumb.


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[V]

I know someone who didn't get a promotion because they wouldn't wait for someone to get their food. We were at a company lunch at some restaurant, and the VP was with us, and one of the level 2 guys didn't wait, the VP told me later it was rude and unacceptable. Not long after that guy didn't get a promotion he was a lock for. I thought that was pretty funny.

The rule is, though, if the person without food says go ahead, you eat, if not you wait. Most people will tell you to go ahead, because it is awkward.

[Buff]

I hate to greet the same people over and over each day. I come into work and I walk straight to my office. If somebody says "Hi" or "Good morning" or whatever, I'll respond politely, but I won't initiate it. I said "Hi" to you on Monday, I don't need to say it again, on Tuesday morning, Tuesday afternoon when I come to your office to ask a question, Wednesday morning, Wednesday morning at the staff meeting, Wednesday afternoon at the department meeting, etc. etc. etc.

If I come to your office I'll just get right into why I'm there. Perhaps I'll ask if you have a moment, but to say "Hi" over and over again. Just not me.

It is different if I don't see you so regularly. If I run into you while doing some shopping or at a social gathering and I don't see you everyday or several times per week, then I'll of course greet you.

My wife is the exception. I'll say hi to her each morning and after work, but that's just happiness management.

[polak]

Yeah I always wait until everyones food is out unless they tell me to eat. Even then I still wait.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by Buff

I hate to greet the same people over and over each day. I come into work and I walk straight to my office. If somebody says "Hi" or "Good morning" or whatever, I'll respond politely, but I won't initiate it. I said "Hi" to you on Monday, I don't need to say it again, on Tuesday morning, Tuesday afternoon when I come to your office to ask a question, Wednesday morning, Wednesday morning at the staff meeting, Wednesday afternoon at the department meeting, etc. etc. etc.

If I come to your office I'll just get right into why I'm there. Perhaps I'll ask if you have a moment, but to say "Hi" over and over again. Just not me.

It is different if I don't see you so regularly. If I run into you while doing some shopping or at a social gathering and I don't see you everyday or several times per week, then I'll of course greet you.

My wife is the exception. I'll say hi to her each morning and after work, but that's just happiness management.

So do you walk in and say "do you have a moment?"

Or "Hi there, do you have a moment?"

For some reason I think you mean doing the pleasantries "hi there how are you" and not just "Hi".

[Trailer Fire]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Singing the anthem isn't jingoistic or militaristic; it's a harmless recognition of our shared identity. If people can't be bothered with even that simple gesture, we have frighteningly weak bonds holding us together. There has to be more to citizenship than pooling taxes and public services.

Thank you for finding the words I was too worked up to find. I'm not as eloquent or elegant when I'm fired up.

And to TBQH, I was born and raised in a trailer park, in a little town outside of Trail. My family and I weren't given the means and opportunity a lot of other people have, and we all worked very hard to get to where we are today. If you want to lump all the people who live in parks together and paint them with one brush, that's your prerogative, but you're really showing your ignorance when you do.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Weitz

So do you walk in and say "do you have a moment?"

Or "Hi there, do you have a moment?"

For some reason I think you mean doing the pleasantries "hi there how are you" and not just "Hi".

Walk in and either start with my question/statement if it is quick or if I need a bit of time I'll ask if they have a moment.

Not just, hi. The whole pleasantries thing. I just like to cut to the chase.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by Buff

Walk in and either start with my question/statement if it is quick or if I need a bit of time I'll ask if they have a moment.

Not just, hi. The whole pleasantries thing. I just like to cut to the chase.

Fair enough. But if you don't at least say hello to me when you walk into my office you will be ignored