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Old 04-22-2015, 06:35 PM   #181
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Just watching last night's telecast... Hrudey just compared Ferland to Clarke Gillies. That's what I've been saying for 2 years Hrudey! Well played, good sir.

Ferland - Bennett - Poirier

and it would be the 2nd line!!!!!
Or a 1st line if Bennett is playing well and Monahan is slumping. Ferland has shown he can elevate his game and Poirier probably will.
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Old 04-22-2015, 06:35 PM   #182
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Chin and chest at the same time. Not unsuspecting, from the front (not blindside), almost all force was absorbed by the chest.

Nothing remotely dirty
I think it was still a penalty, but the NHL is so inconsistent with their determinations of intent.

You're right, he didnt blindside him, but thats it, the primary point of contact was the head.
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Old 04-22-2015, 06:39 PM   #183
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I think it was still a penalty, but the NHL is so inconsistent with their determinations of intent.

You're right, he didnt blindside him, but thats it, the primary point of contact was the head.
I'm with you sort of, yes they are incredibly inconsistent and it tarnishes the credibility, entertainment and legitimacy of the sport. Instead of intent just penalize the moment of action not the premeditation or the injury. Give the same punishment for knocking somebody out with a head shot as you would if you hit them the exact same and they were ok.

Primary hit to head but most on shoulders, make that one game. A hit like the one on Bennett 3 games. Players would be a hell of a lot more careful if that were the case, reckless hits would go out the window and the game would be faster.
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Love Ward's quotes "Calgary's playing like somebody pissed in their corn flakes" and "Vancouver has their panties in a bunch over Ferland".

http://www.tsn.ca/radio/vancouver-10...rland-1.263677
I'm probably being a homer but I've quickly become an Aaron Ward fan. Agreed with everything he said in that interview.

Ferkland really is setting the tempo. Not that the Flames have had trouble playing like a team this year, but the commit level up and down the lineup is as good as it has been in a very long time.
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Old 04-22-2015, 07:12 PM   #185
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Question. I've watched the Ferland hit on Bikesa when he knocks him off the puck in the Vancouver zone a few times. Ferly's shoulder hits Bikesa directly in the chin and doesn't look to hit shoulder at all. How is that considered a clean hit?
A hit to the head means the head is the 'primary' point of contact.

Ferland makes contact from his hip all the way to his shoulder, covering Bieksa's entire torso, as well as his head.

The head was the 'initial' point of contact, due to the fact that Bieksa was leaning forward. But it was definitely not the 'primary' point of contact.

Ferland's shoulder, and most of his weight, hit Bieksa squarely in the torso.

That was not a hit to the head.

Compare that to the Hamhuis hit on Bennett, where really the only contact Hamhuis made was to Bennett's head.
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I think it was still a penalty, but the NHL is so inconsistent with their determinations of intent.

You're right, he didnt blindside him, but thats it, the primary point of contact was the head.
It was a hit to the body where the head was the initial, but not primary, point of contact. If they make those hits illegal, they might as well outlaw body checking entirely.

Basic human anatomy makes it virtually impossible to hit a player from the front without making contact with the head.





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Where can I find the Ferland-Bieksa hits? Tried googling.
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Old 04-23-2015, 07:41 AM   #189
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A hit to the head means the head is the 'primary' point of contact.

Ferland makes contact from his hip all the way to his shoulder, covering Bieksa's entire torso, as well as his head.

The head was the 'initial' point of contact, due to the fact that Bieksa was leaning forward. But it was definitely not the 'primary' point of contact.

Ferland's shoulder, and most of his weight, hit Bieksa squarely in the torso.

That was not a hit to the head.

Compare that to the Hamhuis hit on Bennett, where really the only contact Hamhuis made was to Bennett's head.
Thats a good explanation.
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Not suspension worthy, especially since Hamhuis didn't get one, but easily should have been 2 minutes for targeting his head.
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Kerry Fraser with a lengthy analysis on the evolution of hitting and whether Ferland's hits are legal:

http://www.tsn.ca/c-mon-ref-is-ferla...rging-1.265807

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So now we return to the question of the day. Is Michael Ferland guilty of charging? Given the changes I outlined above, Ferland (like others) is reaping the benefit of the current standard of enforcement on charging. I must also point out that most times, even though Ferland travels a considerable distance by moving his feet quickly, he then enters a glide path to make what is considered a “legal” check.

Tl;dr -- not charging based on today's interpretation; however leaving your feet is a penalty which wasn't called on one occasion in Game 5.
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Fraser wishes he could screw us over again with another two min 5 on 3.
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I'm going to pop this in here too, in the hope I get to update it a couple months from now:


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I don't want to push this toooooo hard, but the nickname or photoshop opportunity for Dances with Goals came to mind last night.
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Kerry Fraser with a lengthy analysis on the evolution of hitting and whether Ferland's hits are legal:

http://www.tsn.ca/c-mon-ref-is-ferla...rging-1.265807




Tl;dr -- not charging based on today's interpretation; however leaving your feet is a penalty which wasn't called on one occasion in Game 5.
Are you talking about the hit right after he got a penalty for no reason at all? That might be a part of it. Also Kerry Fraser can burn in hell.
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Isn't it true that NHL players don't get paid by the team during the playoffs? Their salary is only for the regular season if I recall correctly. If this is true does it mean someone called up from the minors for the playoffs would be working for free?
He should be able to scrounge up a couple of grand from his regular season pay...if not there's always payday loans.
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