Does anyone get suspended? Upd: no hearing for Hamhuis, Burrows suspension rescinded

[RedMileDJ]

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[saillias]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

both teams have been warned

Ed Willes @willesonsports
Early word is no suspension for Burrows. But NHL is unhappy with the way the series has gone and both teams are on warning for Game 4.

Honestly I'm glad this happened

Brawls at the end of every game, the animosity spreading to the fans who are beating each other up in both arenas, there's no way I'd go to Rogers Arena in a Flames jersey... I would quite like to continue my life without brain damage and stab wounds

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

both teams have been warned

Ed Willes @willesonsports
Early word is no suspension for Burrows. But NHL is unhappy with the way the series has gone and both teams are on warning for Game 4.

Hey, you wanted rivalries guys. Well, you got them.

As someone else noted though, what the hell is Hartley supposed to do? He puts the fourth line out in a game that is decided, a scuffle turns into a brawl and he gets fined. So he puts the kids out in a game that is decided, and Vancouver gets to deliberately try to injure them with no consequences.

At this point, someone on Calgary is likely to be seriously injured this series. And if it happens, it will be on the league as much as the Canucks.

[CaptainCrunch]

I'd like to see the Flames roll out Burke on this one.

I've come to expect that the Canucks are a disgrace. I've come to expect that guys like Burrows and Bieksa are complete dirtbags.

The people that should be controlling this are the Canuck's management team and the Captains themselves. But just like the Bertuzzi incident the Canucks continue to have no impulse control whatsoever.

The fact that the NHL had the opportunity to do the right thing to cool this down and failed only guarantees that the results will get worse. Vancouver just got the message that its ok to head shot and take liberties with the Flames better players.

I wouldn't be surprised if tempers flair in game 4, especially if the Flames are ahead on the scoreboard late.

Shame on you Canuck's organization. Shame on you NHL

[FlamesFanFromBC]

Originally Posted by Bezer

I'm pretty shocked that Hamhuis didn't get anything? Like absolutely nothing?

He got 2 minutes for "Illegal Check To Head"

That penalty also gave the Flames a two man advantage and PPG

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Burke needs to come out with a statement here, even if it cost him a fine. Really want to hear his POV right now.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by RedMileDJ

I really hope this doesn't disrupt the pace of the games. As in, calling every possible minor thing. Yes, I'd like to see more things called, but I hope the refs don't breath through their whistles all night.

The Flames are a lot more disciplined and have fewer cheap shot artists than the Canucks do, so I wouldn't worry if the refs start calling the game more conservatively. As long as they don't buy into the notion that every powerplay needs to have an even-up call.

[SuperMatt18]

I worry that they are going to call Ferland on a clean hit early in the game to "send a message".

League has no idea how to police this type of thing.

[Galakanokis]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Oh good, because charging penalties are exactly what the team needs.

Allowing this extracurricular crap to affect how you play and start running around looking for payback is precisely how you lose a series.

Yeah, because that is exactly what I said. Do you require an interpreter? Is charging even in that sentence I wrote. Good grief...

As long as Ferland keeps doing what he is doing Hamhuis will hear the footsteps even more now. Nothing with good hard clean checks. Or did you think "through the boards" was a literal term?

[MissTeeks]

NHL Player Safety‏@NHLPlayerSafety3m3 minutes ago

(1) Upon standard review mandated by Rule 46. 22, NHL has determined that VAN's Alex Burrows shall not be suspended for Game 4 vs. Calgary.

NHL Player Safety‏@NHLPlayerSafety2m2 minutes ago

(2) Incident deemed "not related to the score, previous incidents in the game or prior games, retaliatory in nature, "message sending."

Bob McKenzie‏@TSNBobMcKenzie4m4 minutes ago

NHL rescinds 1-game suspension to Burrows but instigator remains on his record. In any case, short term net is same, Burrows plays in G4.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by RedMileDJ

I really hope this doesn't disrupt the pace of the games. As in, calling every possible minor thing. Yes, I'd like to see more things called, but I hope the refs don't breath through their whistles all night.

Mark my words, right now the NHL is purely seeing Ferland as the hot point in this whole thing because of the way he's playing. I wouldn't be surprised if Ferland spends a lot of time in the penalty box if he continues to play a physical game. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if Engelland gets targeted to.

I just don't have a lot of faith in the NHL right now, especially after I've seen their on ice officials failing to protect players.

Letting Bieksa pound away on Ferland and then jumping in to protect Bieksa once Ferland gains his feet.

The ground and pound on Stajan while the ref sits there and stares at it.

The slash on Gaudreau's hand by Bieksa right in front of the refs.

Burrows jumping Russell and then rescinding the instigator.

The allowed 2-1 on Engelland and the so called ref deputizing Hamhuis

Allowing a blatant targeted head blow on Bennett.

Mark my words, I'm betting the penalty calls early are probably 5-0 against the Flames.

Burke and Treliving should really call a press conference and roll out an 80 inch HD T.V. and play each and every episode from above and then ask why they're being warned. Then toss a check on the table and walk out of the room.

Absolute joke. The Flames are no angels here, but the extent of their barbarian like actions are getting into the crease with Lack. I haven't seen the Flames take a liberty yet in terms of dangerous plays that could injure.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

The Flames are a lot more disciplined and have fewer cheap shot artists than the Canucks do, so I wouldn't worry if the refs start calling the game more conservatively. As long as they don't buy into the notion that every powerplay needs to have an even-up call.

No, but if the officials are given marching orders to tone the series down, then every big hit Ferland or Bollig throws carries a much greater chance of being penalized - even when no rule is broken. That also plays to Vancouver's hands, since they are running scared.

[868904]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Mark my words, right now the NHL is purely seeing Ferland as the hot point in this whole thing because of the way he's playing. I wouldn't be surprised if Ferland spends a lot of time in the penalty box if he continues to play a physical game. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if Engelland gets targeted to.

I just don't have a lot of faith in the NHL right now, especially after I've seen their on ice officials failing to protect players.

Letting Bieksa pound away on Ferland and then jumping in to protect Bieksa once Ferland gains his feet.

The ground and pound on Stajan while the ref sits there and stares at it.

The slash on Gaudreau's hand by Bieksa right in front of the refs.

Burrows jumping Russell and then rescinding the instigator.

The allowed 2-1 on Engelland and the so called ref deputizing Hamhuis

Allowing a blatant targeted head blow on Bennett.

Mark my words, I'm betting the penalty calls early are probably 5-0 against the Flames.

Burke and Treliving should really call a press conference and roll out an 80 inch HD T.V. and play each and every episode from above and then ask why they're being warned. Then toss a check on the table and walk out of the room.

Absolute joke. The Flames are no angels here, but the extent of their barbarian like actions are getting into the crease with Lack. I haven't seen the Flames take a liberty yet in terms of dangerous plays that could injure.

You are right on all counts and if there were a hockey god, Flames will win this in 5.

But as we saw on Saturday, there isn't, so yes, expect the Flames to be in the box a lot in Game 4.

[psicodude]

Originally Posted by MissTeeks

Bob McKenzie‏@TSNBobMcKenzie4m4 minutes ago

NHL rescinds 1-game suspension to Burrows but instigator remains on his record. In any case, short term net is same, Burrows plays in G4.

Wait, what? The penalty is rescinded but it remains on his record? Are they just making it up as they go now?

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

It's pretty clear to me that the DOPS looks at video and tries, at least, to determine whether or not a player was intentionally trying to hurt a guy and factors that into their decision. Do you not think perceived intent plays a role?

It obviously does, just don't see how that can be determined very well.
Oh well

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Flames and Canucks join Delta House.

[Dogbert]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Laundry list of Vancouver ######baggery

Haven't you heard? The Flames are dirty and evil for hitting and fighting; however, hitting from behind and to the head, running the goalie, jumping players from behind, biting, hair-pulling, diving all over the place... All that stuff is just good old-fashioned playoff hockey

[Philly06Cup]

I strongly disagree that Hamhuis aimed for Bennett's head. There is a difference between aiming for someone's head and being reckless with whether or not you hit their head. The first suggests the player is evil and actively trying to end careers. The latter suggests the player is making violent unsafe plays, acknowledging that hockey is a very fast game.

They are both suspendable, but lets not impute intention when we have no idea what is going on in Hamhuis' mind.

Edit: Brendan Shannahan, when we was director of player safety, also didn't seem to know the distinction.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Mark my words, right now the NHL is purely seeing Ferland as the hot point in this whole thing because of the way he's playing. I wouldn't be surprised if Ferland spends a lot of time in the penalty box if he continues to play a physical game. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if Engelland gets targeted to.

I just don't have a lot of faith in the NHL right now, especially after I've seen their on ice officials failing to protect players.

Letting Bieksa pound away on Ferland and then jumping in to protect Bieksa once Ferland gains his feet.

The ground and pound on Stajan while the ref sits there and stares at it.

The slash on Gaudreau's hand by Bieksa right in front of the refs.

Burrows jumping Russell and then rescinding the instigator.

The allowed 2-1 on Engelland and the so called ref deputizing Hamhuis

Allowing a blatant targeted head blow on Bennett.

Mark my words, I'm betting the penalty calls early are probably 5-0 against the Flames.

Burke and Treliving should really call a press conference and roll out an 80 inch HD T.V. and play each and every episode from above and then ask why they're being warned. Then toss a check on the table and walk out of the room.

Absolute joke. The Flames are no angels here, but the extent of their barbarian like actions are getting into the crease with Lack. I haven't seen the Flames take a liberty yet in terms of dangerous plays that could injure.

I agree with you, and thanks for taking the time to write that. When I get angry I find I can't get my message across without sounding stupid.

I'm angry with the NHL and how this stuff is being handled. If they want the shenanigans to stop, suspend the guys who deserve to be suspended.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Galakanokis

Yeah, because that is exactly what I said. Do you require an interpreter? Is charging even in that sentence I wrote. Good grief...

As long as Ferland keeps doing what he is doing Hamhuis will hear the footsteps even more now. Nothing with good hard clean checks. Or did you think "through the boards" was a literal term?

Usually when people say "put him through the boards", they mean "take a run at the guy", which is charging. That's just common usage of that phrase in hockey. Anyway, the point was that if you prioritize revenge for past games, the other guys will be busy winning the current game in the meantime. It's a recipe for disaster.