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#-3 · 04-10-2015, 09:31 PM

In terms of doing the most with what they had

5. Jets were Forecast to be a Bubble team, the back into the Playoffs with a Win from another team on the second last day of the season

4. Ducks were forecast to be an Elite team, they Won a Division

3. Rangers Were forecast to be a Vary Good team, they Won the Regular Season Title.

2. The Predators were forecast to be a Bubble team, they Won the Conference

1. The Flames were forecast to be a one of the worst teams, They made the Playoffs

The shear level of success the Preds had make me thing maybe it should be Laviollette. Listening to the enjoyment of the game and optimism makes me thinks it should be Bob.

It should be close.

codynw · 04-10-2015, 09:36 PM

This was likely Hartley's trophy even if Giordano was healthy. The fact that they still made it without him is unbelievable. It's Bob's.

OutOfTheCube · 04-10-2015, 09:41 PM

Do we really need a poll to find the consensus on a Calgary Flames fan forum? This will be like 95% Hartley.

FlamesAddiction · 04-10-2015, 09:44 PM

It won't bother me if Hartley loses to Maurice, but I really do think Hartley deserves it. I think most people know Winnipeg would at least be in that 8-12th spot in the conference, but almost everyone thought the Flames would be in the bottom 5 of the league.

A few weeks ago, I would have said Laviolette, but I think he has fallen out of favour now.

StAlbertFlame · 04-10-2015, 10:36 PM

You know, Bob Hartley really deserves this award. It has been a joy to watch the Flames surprise the NHL this season.

I have to say though.....there is another NHL coach that deserves an honorable mention to salute the incredible amount of joy that he brought to the Flames fan base. Dallas Eakins contributions to the 2014/15 Oilers season set new levels of failure. To bad he was fired!!!

Erick Estrada · 04-11-2015, 12:07 AM

I don't get the Maurice love. The guy is a veteran coach and while he's done a good job the Jet's have always been one of those teams hovering near 8th spot but underachieved or just not good enough. This year they got over the hump but it's not like they came out of nowhere and took the league by storm as it's essentially the Atlanta team maturing from a 9-11th team to 7-8th place team.

Hartley and Laviolette both did the best work as at the beginning of the season I had the Flames as possible front runners for 1st overall in the draft and the Preds not far behind and that was pretty consistent with the pundits around the league as there were very low expectations for both teams. I wouldn't be mad if Laviolette won it over Hartley but I just don't see how Maurice is more deserving than these two as the Jets have better overall talent on paper than the Flames and Preds and sit one point the Flames behind after 81 games and are far behind the Preds so I feel he's doing the job he's expected to do but not coach of the year material.

White Out 403 · 04-11-2015, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by #-3

In terms of doing the most with what they had

5. Jets were Forecast to be a Bubble team, the back into the Playoffs with a Win from another team on the second last day of the season

The Jets were forecasted to be a bubble team at best, but most people had them bottom of the division and plenty of folks here had them bottom 5 in the league.

Further...to describe their last week of the season as backing into the playoffs is really insulting to what they did. They went on the road and let in 0 goals... nill... in 4 nights against St Louis Minny and Colorado, and got 5 of 6 points. Including the Canucks game they secured 7 of 8 points going into todays meaningless game. How you can describe that as backing in is beyond me.

You're also totally ignoring the injuries Winnipeg has dealt with. For over a month the Jets didn't have their top 4 D. The Kane injury. Little and Perrault being hurt for extended periods. Maurice has done a fantastic job worthy of serious consideration.

But dont take my word for it, Friedman went on Calgary radio and said that Maurice and Hartley were neck and neck for the Adams. And for the record I think Hartley would make a deserving winner... and should win. But it isn't a no brainer.

Finger Cookin · 04-11-2015, 10:50 AM

Anyone but Maurice.

McG · 04-11-2015, 10:53 AM

I'm biased.

FlameZilla · 04-13-2015, 05:44 AM

http://www.nhl.com/ice/m_news.htm?id=762927

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Steering the ship was Hartley, the pick to win the Jack Adams Award as the League's top coach.

Even NHL.com has to acknowledge Hartley as the favourite.

Robbob · 04-13-2015, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Resurrection

The Jets were forecasted to be a bubble team at best, but most people had them bottom of the division and plenty of folks here had them bottom 5 in the league.
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You mean all of the 13 people that voted for them to be bottom five

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthr...highlight=poll

edn88 · 04-13-2015, 09:48 AM

Most everyone here is going to vote Hartley - and honestly he is deserving. Took a team that everyone assumed would miss the playoffs and be in a lottery situation and got them to play as a team an exceed expectations and play to their max potential. The measure and value of a coach is their ability to make a difference.

So outside of Hartley who would I pick - probably Maurice for the same reason. Jets have struggled lately and Maurice seems to have them playing as a team and meeting their potential.

The Rangers are loaded with talent, and although Vigneault has certainly done a better job than Torts, who hasn't. Preds have good d and a good goalie, and are falling to earth a bit, Ducks have a lot of talent and were doing okay before Beaudrau.

But at the end of the day Hartley has made the biggest difference with his team.

Calgary4LIfe · 04-13-2015, 10:53 AM

Laviolette should have been a very strong candidate, but the Preds went on a disappointing run late in the season. No idea if that has any bearing at all. Either way, I don't think anyone would have had them leading the central (and the NHL) for a long stretch. Pretty good accomplishment.

Dejardins is a tough one. What were the Canucks last year? An under-performing team. Though we can safely assume that they were a team on the decline, they were not as bad as their record showed. Torts killed that team. What are the Canucks this season? I think they were still a bubble team. First year Dejardins 'righted' that ship and got them back to where they should have been - or perhaps a valid argument can be made that they slightly exceeded expectations.

Capuano did a great job with the Islanders, but perhaps Snow deserves more credit. Snow added a lot of depth and filled some glaring holes in the lineup. I for one had them picked to safely make the playoffs. In my opinion, I don't think Capuano has helped that team to exceed expectations, but he is definitely deserving of getting that team on the same page and working well. Definitely deserves some consideration from that aspect.

Cameron I think is deserving of a nomination. Sens were not expected to make the playoffs. Cameron stepped in after MacLean was fired in December. Their run late in the season was nothing short of impressive. I would find it difficult to argue that he doesn't deserve a nomination.

Maurice deserves a nod. However, the consensus had the Jets being a bubble team. By that definition, Maurice didn't do anything exceptional. However, he did get that team into the playoffs when they had every excuse not to. Definitely deserves some praise, but I am not sure I would really consider him a strong candidate.

Vigneault is (by definition) the most successful coach in the NHL this season. His team won the President's Trophy. That alone makes him a legitimate contender. I wouldn't call the Rangers a shoe-in to be the top team in the NHL, but they managed to get the job done. Everyone felt they would probably be the strongest team in the East, but few thought they would be the team with the best record in the entire NHL. Vigneault has definitely made that team into a bona fide contender, and I really do think he should be nominated.

Hartley I think is still the strongest candidate. At the start of the season, everyone (not named Ward) and their dog had the Flames battling it out with Buffalo for McDavid. Flames not only got out of the basement, but they made the playoffs. Not only did they make the playoffs, but they did so under strange circumstances - losing all those centers, losing your captain and most important defencemen, having injuries occur in net and playing a rookie goalie for a stretch, playing a system that is essentially against the grain of what many teams are trying to accomplish, and playing more rookies than I think any other team. Not only has this happened, but Calgary has become a fairly enjoyable product to watch outside of its' own fanbase.

There are a host of good stories this year for the Jack Adams. I really believe it is Hartley's to lose at this point, but if he loses, I wouldn't call it a travesty either. There really are a couple of very good cases. I personally feel - even taking off my homer glasses - that Hartley is the most deserving, but I do think there are other very deserving coaches.

GioforPM · 04-13-2015, 10:56 AM

I think the Jets benefitted from a fantastic trade. Hartley has played the hand he was dealt at the beginning of the season, give or take a Schlemko.

dino7c · 04-13-2015, 11:04 AM

no kidding the Flames were sellers at the deadline and still made the playoffs

undercoverbrother · 04-13-2015, 11:04 AM

Hartley took a team that was picked to be a basement dweller and created a playoff team and a culture of winning. He got 100% buy in (less Sven), or appeared to at least.

IMO he is the head of the pack.

It is Hartley.........................tonnes of daylight...............every other coach.

AC · 04-13-2015, 11:06 AM

I don't see how Hartley doesn't win it.

The Flames were supposed to be a bottom 5 team and made the playoffs.

The other candidates are on teams that are either shoe-ins for the playoffs, or in the case of the Jets were supposed to be a 6-10 team in the West.

Gaudfather · 04-13-2015, 11:24 AM

Hartley won it the moment the Flames punched their ticket to the post season.

OBCT · 04-13-2015, 11:32 AM

Hartley, Maurice, and Desjardins (in that order) for me.

1qqaaz · 04-13-2015, 11:41 AM

Personally, I don't see how anyone is even close to Hartley. Winnipeg did roughly the same thing which a much older and more experienced team. The Ranger have an incredibly stacked roster. The Canucks just had a down year last year, and I am not in the least bit surprised that they made the playoffs this year. I think Laviolette has the second best case after Hartley. But Nashville had an outstanding goalie all year. Cooper is a good coach, but again, Tampa Bay did not really over-perform by any means.

The fact that Gio was injured for so long and the Flames made the playoffs mades Hartley a lock in my eyes.