I don't mind the occasional silly zombie death. The show isn't about the zombies really and it's also a comic book.
The whole idea of zombies makes no sense. The laws of thermodynamics would have them fall apart within days.
Seeing a fun zombie kill once in a while is fine. Particularly during episodes with such serious tones.
Yeah, I've made similar arguments about the zombies in the past. They're more of a stage prop. They are slow when they need to be slow, fast when they need to be fast. Strong when they need to be strong, weak when they need to be weak. Nothing about them makes any sense or has much consistency. They are a device.
The silly deaths don't bother me per se, was just agreeing it was really over the top. Kinda takes me out of the moment I guess. You do make a good point on it being adapted from a comic though. That kill would made for a good panel in a comic book.
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Daryl whipping a chain and smashing 3 heads like that pales in comparison to some of the other things if you want to over analyze it.
Thing is, something can be totally unrealistic and not disturb the viewer's suspended disbelief if it's the right type of thing (like not thinking too hard about the laws of thermodynamics). Others can be more plausible yet just the sheer visual absurdity knocks you right out of your "enjoying fictional world" zone. There have definitely been others. Carol's bottle rocket mortar to gas tank thing had me doing one of these.
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having fired a large number of weapons (pistols, rifles, light and heavy machine guns) there is no way that zombie skull "muffles" the shot enough for the group not to hear it.
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in movies/tv, a silencer makes even the biggest loudest gun make a tiny "thhwpp" sound instead. therefore a zombie head should be more than enough noise suppression if the same rules are followed.
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having fired a large number of weapons (pistols, rifles, light and heavy machine guns) there is no way that zombie skull "muffles" the shot enough for the group not to hear it.
How many human skulls have you used as silencers though?
My thought when watching the show was that Rick had to make sure he had the right angle so the bullet would not be in any danger of going through the zombie skull and into his.
How many human skulls have you used as silencers though?
My thought when watching the show was that Rick had to make sure he had the right angle so the bullet would not be in any danger of going through the zombie skull and into his.
My biggest issue with that kill was Rick getting an eye and mouthful of zombie guts and not seeming to care. Long way from how careful the characters were to not get any zombie blood near any sensitive areas in the first couple of seasons
My biggest issue with that kill was Rick getting an eye and mouthful of zombie guts and not seeming to care. Long way from how careful the characters were to not get any zombie blood near any sensitive areas in the first couple of seasons
Don't forget a lot of those concerns were thrown out the window after Dr Jenner told Rick they were all infected already.
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I love reading some of the things people write on here..."when he killed those zombies with that chain, it was unrealistic..." It's like my wife at the end of the Transformer movie where they show the hot blonde running across a parking lot and my wife says to me "that's so unrealistic, there's no way she'd be running like that in high heels after wearing them most of the day".
Nothing about The Walking Dead (or the Transformers movies for that matter) is real. As soon as you start debating how realistic some things in those movies or shows are, you enjoy them less. Take them for what they are, they're not based on real events or even adult novels. Most of the things we watch (and enjoy) today are based on what most of us watched, played with or read as kids. Just let your inner kid enjoy what's going on and try not to over think things.
I feel like Homer in that Simpsons episode where he's the voice of Poochie. He's at a convention where someone has an issue with Itchy using Skratchy's rib cage as a xylophone and hits the same rib twice but it makes 2 different sounds.
Just take off your "genius at work" t-shirt and enjoy the show.
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Do you guys seriously not get that there is a level of suspension of disbelief that any show cannot exceed? It's not like, "oh here's something that couldn't happen, therefore anything else in the show that they do is fair game and you can't complain about it being absurd".
Let's say that instead of Morgan breaking Darryl and Aaron out of the car, the horde of zombies was suddenly immolated by Danerys Targaryen riding a dragon. Is your reaction, "well, there are zombies and that's pretty silly, so dragons are also fine".
Everyone has a tolerance for this stuff where if you go beyond it, it throws you right out of the fantasy world that the show has created. The boundaries of reality that it sets that you agree to use as the new normal for the purposes of enjoying the show. It's not a license to do ANYTHING while being able to count on the credulity of the audience. There are limits, and they're different for different viewers.
Here's a perfect example of what I'm talking about. No one thinks there are elves, orcs, balrogs, wizards and dragons, but we take those things as read to enjoy Tolkein's world. But then you see a scene like this:
And your reaction is, or at least mine is, "Yeah guys. I'm sure that barrel just bounces perfectly like that. What the f*** ever."
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It's The Walking Dead, there have been so many of those little "pushing reality too much" spots in the entire series that you just have to learn to accept them. The show isn't perfect, there are lots of mistakes...it's still a fun show to watch.
No one in the group has to take any sorts of medication, no one ever gets the runs, no one has a cold, Coral having any awkward teen moments, no one farts and we haven't really seen one fast food restaurant the entire show....I mean what kind of reality is it if there isn't even a McDonalds or BK around???
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Do you guys seriously not get that there is a level of suspension of disbelief that any show cannot exceed?
I get that. I just personally don't see the chain thing as anything more over-the-top than almost everything else about the show. Of all the things to point to as being unrealistic, it seems kind of trivial.
We know that zombie heads are pretty soft already. We know that the humans in this show are prodigies and have exceptional skill when it comes to combat (every man, woman and child has near 100% shooting accuracy, and people like Morgan and Michonne have developed world class samurai skills in months), so I don't see why Daryl being able to swing a chain with force and accuracy is the point that breaks the realism.
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Yeah, I get that everyone has a different point where their suspension of disbelief is broken, but a guy killing zombies with a chain is hardly different than so many of the deaths you've seen already. Seems like a really weird place for your limit to be. But whatever.
How many human skulls have you used as silencers though?
My thought when watching the show was that Rick had to make sure he had the right angle so the bullet would not be in any danger of going through the zombie skull and into his.
You knowing the answer would require me killing you..........
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