04-01-2015, 11:08 AM
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#401
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Franchise Player
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Eldrick was joking.
He had to be joking.
...Please be joking?
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04-01-2015, 11:12 AM
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#402
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Originally Posted by Robbob
I agree. You could use that hit in the example blind side hit tutorial they have. The stupid part is he is a repeat offender this year.
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You could have it in the tutorial for what is incidental contact.
Burrows is moving in a straight line to the bench. He does not deviate.
Gaustad suddenly changed direction into Burrows. Burrows braces. Unfortunate, but not suspension worthy (or major worthy, but we killed it... so). CHL is correct, in that Bieksa's was far more deserving of supplemental discipline if there were to be any.
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
He prefers to go after players below his weight class
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Go look at Bieksa's fight card. He regularly fights up in weight, not down.
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04-01-2015, 11:19 AM
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#403
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Edmonton,AB
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byfuglien was my favorite player not on the flames but that crosscheck was just disgusting I lost a lot of respect for him as a player hope he gets the rest of the regular season off
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04-01-2015, 11:20 AM
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#404
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Could Care Less
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster86
You could have it in the tutorial for what is incidental contact.
Burrows is moving in a straight line to the bench. He does not deviate.
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He clearly sees Gaustad, who doesn't see him and is vulnerable, and pushes his shoulder forward to make contact with what looks to be the head. That's not incidental man. Are you implying that since Burrows is going "in a straight line" for a line change, he isn't responsible for not interfering with players who don't have the puck?
"I'm just going to swing my arms like this and walk towards you, if you get hit it's your own fault!"
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04-01-2015, 11:20 AM
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#405
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Kelowna
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster86
You could have it in the tutorial for what is incidental contact.
Burrows is moving in a straight line to the bench. He does not deviate.
Gaustad suddenly changed direction into Burrows. Burrows braces. Unfortunate, but not suspension worthy (or major worthy, but we killed it... so). CHL is correct, in that Bieksa's was far more deserving of supplemental discipline if there were to be any.
Go look at Bieksa's fight card. He regularly fights up in weight, not down.
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Tom Kostopolus says hi.
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04-01-2015, 11:20 AM
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#406
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
No, I mean the vicious slash by Miller on Pavelec (who was down and defenseless).
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Dude, have you ever been anywhere within 100 feet of a hockey rink or goalie pads?
I would let Zedno Chara take a full lumberjack swing at a set of goal pads if I was wearing them, and the worst it would do is knock you off balance. He was clearly trying to knock the puck in the net, and Pavelec wouldn't have even felt a tap.
Basically you are saying it is OK to shoot a guy in the face with a .44 Magnum, for brushing into you in a stairwell. I like Byfuglien, but I hope he get at least 3 games for that. That was inches away from being one the most horrific thing we have ever witnessed in an NHL game.
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04-01-2015, 11:22 AM
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#407
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by robo
byfuglien was my favorite player not on the flames but that crosscheck was just disgusting i lost a lot of respect for him as a player hope he gets the rest of the regular season off
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x 2
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04-01-2015, 11:22 AM
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#408
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Resolute 14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster86
You could have it in the tutorial for what is incidental contact.
Burrows is moving in a straight line to the bench. He does not deviate.
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He is watching him the entire time and raises his shoulder...if that is incidental contact then I am the pope. I am sorry but he is a repeat offender, he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt.
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04-01-2015, 11:25 AM
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#409
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Eldrick was joking.
He had to be joking.
...Please be joking?
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watching the clip in the full context it has to be a joke. It was a shot attempt not a slash. He hit the puck and there was barely any follow through.
It has to be a joke.
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04-01-2015, 11:28 AM
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#410
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Could Care Less
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster86
Go look at Bieksa's fight card. He regularly fights up in weight, not down.
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About half and half over the last 4 or 5 seasons, actually. He did fight Brian Boyle (and they rated that he won), that would take balls lol.
http://www.hockeyfights.com/players/1562
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04-01-2015, 11:30 AM
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#411
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Edmonton,AB
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Originally Posted by heep223
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i swear everytime i see him fight a bigger guy its just grab, clutch, hug
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04-01-2015, 11:34 AM
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#412
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: 161 St. - Yankee Stadium
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbob
watching the clip in the full context it has to be a joke. It was a shot attempt not a slash. He hit the puck and there was barely any follow through.
It has to be a joke.
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What he said.
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04-01-2015, 11:58 AM
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#413
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Franchise Player
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No suspension for Burrows is what I'm reading:
Surprising.
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04-01-2015, 12:10 PM
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#414
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
Watched the play about 10 more times.
Byfuglien reacted to a vicious slash on his goaltender. You either want a response to to that slash, or you don't.
I want a response, and there are no half measures.
I doubt Byfuglien meant to almost break Miller's neck, but you don't get to respond only a little bit. You either do respond, or you don't.
That said, he has to be suspended - and if the Jets were my team I would be OK with both the reaction to the attack on my goaltender, and the suspension that went with the retaliation.
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You want to respond do it with your fists like a man. Not your stick like a little b####. Are you one of those two hand slasher after being bumped in beer league?
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04-01-2015, 12:10 PM
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#415
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
I'm sorry, but that is ridiculous. Go and look at it again.
Miller swings wildly for the puck and hits Pavelec in the pads. Byfuglien ambushes him and pounds his head to the ice with his stick.
It was brutal. Yes, I'm sure Byfuglien was caught up in the heat of the moment and intensity within the game, but this was completely unwarranted retaliation and is beyond ANY excuse.
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Not saying it was warranted nor suspension worthy. Clearly it is. Just saying when you see the slash as Byfuglien did, an attack on his goaltender, you either respond to the slash or you don't. I want my team to respond. Teams like the Oilers don't. The problem with responding is that it doesn't always turn out well, like this didn't....but I'm OK with it when it doesn't, within reason.
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04-01-2015, 12:14 PM
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#416
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by northcrunk
You want to respond do it with your fists like a man. Not your stick like a little b####. Are you one of those two hand slasher after being bumped in beer league?
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No. You either respond or you don't.
Either can go terribly wrong (like Bertuzzi response with fists did).
Just saying I prefer my team to respond, fully understanding that something as bad as this is a possible outcome.
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04-01-2015, 12:16 PM
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#417
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by heep223
He clearly sees Gaustad, who doesn't see him and is vulnerable, and pushes his shoulder forward to make contact with what looks to be the head. That's not incidental man. Are you implying that since Burrows is going "in a straight line" for a line change, he isn't responsible for not interfering with players who don't have the puck?
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Except, to the letter of the law on interference he needs to make a move to interfere with the player. Burrows just goes in one lane towards the bench, not on course to collide with Gaustad.
Burrows sees him, and sees him change course. Gaustad changes course and doesn't see Burrows. Burrows had a chance to brace, Gaustad did not. It's unfortunate incidental contact.
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04-01-2015, 12:18 PM
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#418
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
No. You either respond or you don't.
Either can go terribly wrong (like Bertuzzi response with fists did).
Just saying I prefer my team to respond, fully understanding that something as bad as this is a possible outcome.
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I'm sorry but Bertuzzi pulled a b#### move too. Take they guy on face to face. Don't be a punk.
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04-01-2015, 12:24 PM
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#419
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: stuck in BC watching the nucks
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Quote:
Originally Posted by northcrunk
I'm sorry but Bertuzzi pulled a b#### move too. Take they guy on face to face. Don't be a punk.
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Oh so true...BS sucker punch from behind.
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04-01-2015, 12:29 PM
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#420
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by northcrunk
Take they guy on face to face. Don't be a punk.
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Considering Moore didn't really want to do that, Bertuzzi took it as an invite to do do it from behind.
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