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Old 03-24-2015, 02:32 PM   #941
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oh Ted, you champion of the common man.



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I strongly suspect Ted Cruz will annihilate the world record for most pandering in an election campaign. I also think by the primary he'll be promoting what amounts to the Christian Taliban.
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oh Ted, you champion of the common man.

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So Murray Street by Sonic Youth dissatisfied him as a 9/11 response? Or The Rising by The Boss?

I guess Toby Keith did it better.
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So Murray Street by Sonic Youth dissatisfied him as a 9/11 response? Or The Rising by The Boss?

I guess Toby Keith did it better.


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I guess Toby Keith did it better.
Don't forget Alan Jackson's insipid nonsense.
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Don't forget Alan Jackson's insipid nonsense.
Hey, cutting the sleeves off your denim shirts makes you a Patriot!
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Bad Religion's The Process Of Belief was my fave 9/11 response album.

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I'll never forget this performance, and the faces of the responders:

Paul Simon Performs 'The Boxer' on 'SNL' After 9/11 As Mayor Rudy Giuliani and members of the NYPD and NYFD look on.

http://videos.nymag.com/video/Paul-S...20After%209/11

http://en.channel.pandora.tv/channel...gid=all&page=1

http://snltranscripts.jt.org/01/01atribute.phtml

Lorne Michaels: Can we be funny?

Mayor Rudolph Guiliani: Why start now? "Live, from New York! It's Saturday Night!"

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In 2004 I an article where I thought he would be president in 2012, as a centre-right bob dole candidate.

He was an early leader in 2006/2007 democratic circles and was the top dollar raiser prior to winning the democratic nomination. Once he got Oprah, it was all over but the crying.

Obama is a political rockstar.

Ted Cruz is a sideshow.
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I thought he would be President when I first saw him speak at a Democrat Convention.

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MSNBC host Chris Matthews admitted, "I have to tell you, a little chill in my legs right now. That is an amazing moment in history right there. It is surely an amazing moment. A keynoter like I have never heard."[26] He added later in the night, "...I have seen the first black president there. And the reason I say that is because I think the immigrant experience combined with the African background, combined with the incredible education, combined with his beautiful speech, not every politician gets help with the speech, but that speech was a piece of work."[28]
Really? just from one speech?

He was a young, black first-term senator who had done nothing nationally and whose major professional achievements were to be a part-time college instructor and community organizer, and who had lost his only congressional race. His candidacy grew.
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Really? just from one speech?

He was a young, black first-term senator who had done nothing nationally and whose major professional achievements were to be a part-time college instructor and community organizer, and who had lost his only congressional race. His candidacy grew.
Yeah, he also wasn't completely insane like Cruz is. Cruz is this year's Santorum, if Santorum doesn't run that is.
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Really? just from one speech?

He was a young, black first-term senator who had done nothing nationally and whose major professional achievements were to be a part-time college instructor and community organizer, and who had lost his only congressional race. His candidacy grew.
There was absolutely presidential talk around Obama after that speech.
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Yeah, he also wasn't completely insane like Cruz is. Cruz is this year's Santorum, if Santorum doesn't run that is.
No, Cruz is this year's Obama!

First term Senator. No experience?-Check
Born in a foreign country? Check
Obama is a Muslim so I assume, then, that Cruz is a communist!

Bring on the birthers! Bring on the fear mongering! The outrage must be on its way!!!
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I strongly suspect Ted Cruz will annihilate the world record for most pandering in an election campaign. I also think by the primary he'll be promoting what amounts to the Christian Taliban.
The pandering runs deep with this one. Thirty seconds on Wikipedia tells us:

He graduated from Princeton and Harvard and "won the top speaker award at both the 1992 U.S. National Debating Championship and the 1992 North American Debating Championship." And "Princeton's debate team later named their annual novice championship after Cruz.

Yet he still speaks like an awkward, sweaty-palmed rube. He's faking it! He's doing his best to not appear polished.

I like how he chose to announce this at Liberty University though...

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The elite academic circles that Cruz was now traveling in began to rub off. As a law student at Harvard, he refused to study with anyone who hadn't been an undergrad at Harvard, Princeton, or Yale. Says Damon Watson, one of Cruz's law-school roommates: "He said he didn't want anybody from 'minor Ivies' like Penn or Brown.

The guy is the furthest thing from "the common man". Not that there's anything wrong with that, but it's just so cynical and blatant. He's apparently an extremely intelligent and educated person, but he's pretending he's not.
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The pandering runs deep with this one. Thirty seconds on Wikipedia tells us:

He graduated from Princeton and Harvard and "won the top speaker award at both the 1992 U.S. National Debating Championship and the 1992 North American Debating Championship." And "Princeton's debate team later named their annual novice championship after Cruz.

Yet he still speaks like an awkward, sweaty-palmed rube. He's faking it! He's doing his best to not appear polished.

I like how he chose to announce this at Liberty University though...

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The elite academic circles that Cruz was now traveling in began to rub off. As a law student at Harvard, he refused to study with anyone who hadn't been an undergrad at Harvard, Princeton, or Yale. Says Damon Watson, one of Cruz's law-school roommates: "He said he didn't want anybody from 'minor Ivies' like Penn or Brown.

The guy is the furthest thing from "the common man". Not that there's anything wrong with that, but it's just so cynical and blatant. He's apparently an extremely intelligent and educated person, but he's pretending he's not.
Reminds one of Nixon
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Reminds one of Nixon
Oh yeah, Tricky Dick.
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Oh yeah, Tricky Dick.
He used to project this wholly false 'man of the people' image to try and compensate for his utter lack of real personality beyond amoral political hack, his chequers the dog speech is considered a classic for that.
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I like how he chose to announce this at Liberty University though...
Well, it is the most Christian of Christian schools. Liberty is fairly shunned around here for its fundamentalism, and I live in a fairly religious area.
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There was absolutely presidential talk around Obama after that speech.
I remember a lot of people saying the same thing Troutman said at the time of that speech.

I wonder if things would have worked out better if Hillary won, and had Barack as VP for 8 years. A lot of things Obama did kind of ended up half baked, and didn't always consider unforeseen consequences. Obamacare's coverage gap is almost unforgivable, in that it took away any real option for health care for millions of working poor people. There is also a very real chance Obamacare will die in the supreme court in June. If that happens, I guess that is what the whole next presidential campaign will be focused on.
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I have to admit Ted Cruz is good at what he does. He almost had me believing for a second that global warming was a myth or at least wishing that it was. Now knowing a little of his educational background, I can see how he's become an exceptional liar and much more sophisticated than Nixon.
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I remember a lot of people saying the same thing Troutman said at the time of that speech.

I wonder if things would have worked out better if Hillary won, and had Barack as VP for 8 years. A lot of things Obama did kind of ended up half baked, and didn't always consider unforeseen consequences. Obamacare's coverage gap is almost unforgivable, in that it took away any real option for health care for millions of working poor people. There is also a very real chance Obamacare will die in the supreme court in June. If that happens, I guess that is what the whole next presidential campaign will be focused on.
I think Hillary is going to be a disaster, personally. Obama wasn't a great president by any means, but he did end up presiding over an economy that turned around. There are just too many other things he did that were ####ty that weren't a result of the Tea Partiers.

Hillary though ... man. Does anyone really know what her stance on anything is? She's such a politician, and she's a hawk too. The scary thing is she's still way better than any Republican.

I truly feel sorry for the American electorate. The way they've had choice and an actual political spectrum stolen from them is shameful.

The one thing, and it's sad that this matters now, is that Ted Cruz doesn't look presidential at all. He absolutely looks like a smarmy politician, and as sad as it is that it might, I hope it costs him.
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The one thing, and it's sad that this matters now, is that Ted Cruz doesn't look presidential at all. He absolutely looks like a smarmy politician, and as sad as it is that it might, I hope it costs him.
He is a little Tommy Flanaganish isn't he?
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