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polak · 03-23-2015, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

The other night I envisioned a scenario where the Flames finish just out of the POs , we're all sad and then the Flames win the lottery.

WTH would happen? You don't play any of those guys on the 3rd or 4th line, so Bennett on the wing with McDavid? Backlund at 3rd C? A trade of Bennett (I say no way)?

Although it's completely wishful thinking, you'd play them all and see what sticks and then make a trade. A trade for an amazing D man.

codynw · 03-23-2015, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dammage79

I'm insane. I'd trade down from 1st OA and sell to the highest bidder in the top 10. Except EDM. They cannot bid. You could trade down 4 or 5 spots and get precisely what you need (Provorov, Hanafin, Marner etc....) and add more assets in whetever else someone would add on.

I wouldn't move away from Monahan and Bennett for my life. I think the Dymanic between the two is going to be lights out for a decade.

Yea, you're definitely insane. You don't give up McDavid. I hate to say it, but I think either trade one of Monahan or Bennett for a defenseman. Maybe switch Bennett to the wing, but I think a trade would be more likely.

GranteedEV · 03-23-2015, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

The other night I envisioned a scenario where the Flames finish just out of the POs , we're all sad and then the Flames win the lottery.

WTH would happen? You don't play any of those guys on the 3rd or 4th line, so Bennett on the wing with McDavid? Backlund at 3rd C? A trade of Bennett (I say no way)?

I would draft Jack Eichel. He is better than McDavid. He can also play right wing beside our stud LW and our other two stud C's. Not that you can't have him taking faceoffs for Bennett and playing C on D and generally being the C except on offense.

GioforPM · 03-23-2015, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GranteedEV

I would draft Jack Eichel. He is better than McDavid. He can also play right wing.

Now I know you're just being contrarian. Has any pro scout anywhere said in the past year that Eichel is better?

CroFlames · 03-23-2015, 03:05 PM

I'm gonna pretend the last couple posts didn't happen.

You don't pass up a chance at McDavid folks.

jemjey · 03-23-2015, 03:09 PM

This is a Monahan thread! He's gonna score 35 and we will make the playoffs, so let's leave McEichel to the tankers.

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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

He was a top 6 pick in a deep draft year. Probably would've gone #1 a couple of the years the Oilers had the top pick. Could've arguably gone top 3-5 in his draft year too. I don't think I'd trade him for Drouin, Barkov or Lindholm at this point.

He was projected as a two-way playmaking/scoring #1 centre and that projection appears to be accurate.

Funny how for so long we were looking for a #1 centre and now we may have two of them down the road.

I wouldn't trade him for anyone from his draft class, including Mackinnon.

GranteedEV · 03-23-2015, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

Now I know you're just being contrarian. Has any pro scout anywhere said in the past year that Eichel is better?

I'm just basing on what I've seen, I'm not remotely pretending to be a pro-scout or to disparge their beliefs. McDavid is amazing but Eichel could go down as the greatest player to ever play the game, the things he does are just unfair. He'll instantly be a Selke candidate and I expect 100+ points a season out of him. Imagine if Johnny was 6'2 and could switch up between his own style of play and a bit of a "protect the puck" style of play of a Joe Thornton, with the same vision as those two players, with elite skating, and elite defense.

Even if McDavid's a bit better at his peak, Eichel would be a better fit for our team as he brings all the things we need - size, a right-handed shot, possession-driving. And if Eichel's worse, hey that's better for us as it keeps us cheaper against the Salary Cap.

codynw · 03-23-2015, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GranteedEV

I'm just basing on what I've seen, I'm not remotely pretending to be a pro-scout or to disparge their beliefs. McDavid is amazing but Eichel could go down as the greatest player to ever play the game, the things he does are just unfair. He'll instantly be a Selke candidate and I expect 100+ points a season out of him.

lol

GioforPM · 03-23-2015, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GranteedEV

I'm just basing on what I've seen, I'm not remotely pretending to be a pro-scout or to disparge their beliefs. McDavid is amazing but Eichel could go down as the greatest player to ever play the game, the things he does are just unfair. He'll instantly be a Selke candidate and I expect 100+ points a season out of him.

Ummm, no and no.

jemjey · 03-23-2015, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GranteedEV

I'm just basing on what I've seen, I'm not remotely pretending to be a pro-scout or to disparge their beliefs. McDavid is amazing but Eichel could go down as the greatest player to ever play the game, the things he does are just unfair. He'll instantly be a Selke candidate and I expect 100+ points a season out of him. Imagine if Johnny was 6'2 and could switch up between his own style of play and a bit of a "protect the puck" style of play of a Joe Thornton, with the same vision as those two players, with elite skating, and elite defense.

Whoa now, I'm a huge Eichel fan too, but let's slow down before we crown him the next Gretzky. Kid is still 18 and hasn't played a single game of pro hockey.

Also, MONAHAN THREAD.

codynw · 03-23-2015, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jemjey

Whoa now, I'm a huge Eichel fan too, but let's slow down before we crown him the next Gretzky. Kid is still 18 and hasn't played a single game of pro hockey.

But he's 6'2" therefore he's gonna be the greatest of all time.

GioforPM · 03-23-2015, 03:21 PM

Best player ever is a "well, sure, maybe, if he can outplay Gretzky, Orr, Lemieux et al".

But "instant Selke candidate" as a 19 year old rookie playing for one of Buffalo, Carolina, Edmonton or Arizona? That's even more farfetched.

Neeper · 03-23-2015, 03:27 PM

I am an optimistic person by nature, but I didn't think Mony was going to be this good. Johnny was a for sure thing for me, but Mony I wasn't sure. He's such a smart player, it's very impressive.

5by5 · 03-23-2015, 03:32 PM

Back to Mony. His shot is diabolical, his skating has vastly improved, his defensive game is top notch, and his hockey IQ is off the charts for a 20 yr old. He is the real deal. Can't wait until some of Bennett's grit wears off on him and he plays with a burr under his saddle. Then the Toews comparisons can start. Thank the gods that E=NG picked 7th. Oh ya, he has the best hair in hockey.

GioforPM · 03-23-2015, 04:06 PM

I don't mind the lack of a Bennettesque edge. Monahan's quiet style works for him. Sneak in, shoot, score, go to the dot.

If he becomes a bit of edgier player, it might take away his effectiveness and for sure will take him off the PK and the ice a bit via penalties (even coincidental ones).

jemjey · 03-23-2015, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

I don't mind the lack of a Bennettesque edge. Monahan's quiet style works for him. Sneak in, shoot, score, go to the dot.

If he becomes a bit of edgier player, it might take away his effectiveness and for sure will take him off the PK and the ice a bit via penalties (even coincidental ones).

agreed. He seems to find a way to stay under the radar until he scores the GWG. His quiet style helps him be effective: getting to the dangerous areas where he is absolute money.

cannon7 · 03-23-2015, 06:31 PM

Monahan's hockey sense reminds me of Joe Sakic. I hated when the Flames played against Sakic because I knew at some point in the game I'd glance over and spot him in the slot wide open at the last second before a wicked wrister. I see the same thing happening with MOnahan, but the dread has been replaced with anticipation.

GranteedEV · 03-23-2015, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cannon7

Monahan's hockey sense reminds me of Joe Sakic. I hated when the Flames played against Sakic because I knew at some point in the game I'd glance over and spot him in the slot wide open at the last second before a wicked wrister. I see the same thing happening with MOnahan, but the dread has been replaced with anticipation.

Hartley compared him to Sakic too.

Crumpy-Gunt · 03-24-2015, 01:12 AM

Playing top line with Hudler, Gaudreau, Brodie and Gio most the season doesnt hurt. Especially Hudler and Gaudreau. They never have to look at the puck once its on their stick and can hit you with a perfect pass you just need to keep your stick on the ice and find a bit of room - heck they can pass to you if you have no room sometimes.

I think Monahan is progressing just the way I thought he would - but much quicker. Does that have to do with being paired with 2 world class playmaking wingers? Maybe. Probably to an extent. But I think his 2 way game and consistency is more impressive than the offensive numbers. Didnt expect a rookie 20 goal season or a sophmore 30 but I thought he would reach those totals as soon as I watched his wrist shot in development camp. Funny enough he was on a line with JG and Gaudreau set him up for a goal in that camp scrimmage IIRC. .

Mister Yamoto · 03-24-2015, 01:32 AM

Sean Monahan is Trevor Linden 2.0.