03-02-2015, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
According to Rishaug, Petry turned down $4 million per for 4 years from the Oilers.
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I dont blame him when he looks across the lockerroom at Nikita Nikitin's $4.5M.
The Oilers screwed themselves by wildly overpaying UFAs. Why would a better player want to take less money than a worse player while staying on the Oilers? They screwed up their salary structure for the Siberian Superstar.
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03-02-2015, 08:52 AM
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Offering him less money then Nikitin probably sealed any decision making process for Petry.
Its a very poor return on a 26 year old middle pairing defenseman in a buyers market.
Its lucky that the whole forensic audit didn't include Lowe or Mac-T or the comments on this trade would have been written in red ink.
I might have to go over to HF to guage the Oiler fans reactions.
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03-02-2015, 08:57 AM
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Does this leave 4 Giordano's left?
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03-02-2015, 09:47 AM
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It's still so baffling that the owner can't see how bad his managers are and what they have done to this team.
If it was anyone else, I'd feel sorry for the fans. But my God is it sweet now. All those seasons of them saying "there's something special happening here" and "Oiler Dynasty" and all sorts of other nonsense.
What a joke.
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03-02-2015, 09:50 AM
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I predict Petry to bounce back ala Devin Dubnyk.
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03-02-2015, 09:52 AM
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I don't feel that they got a bad price for Petry tbh ... Petry is seriously overrated.
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03-02-2015, 09:53 AM
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Perhaps if they had offered the extension last summer and not just before the trade deadline when Perry was more disillusioned they might have been able to talk.
It's the Oiler's way (tm).
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03-02-2015, 09:58 AM
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Norm!
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I love the theory on the Oilers main board that Mac-T and Lowe are intentionally sabotaging this team so that the boys on the bus era remains the best era in Edmonton hockey forever.
In this case, Mac-T effectively painted himself into a corner with his mouth and his ego. Besides signing Petry to a bridge one year contract that put him into UFA status, he and Eakins scratched him earlier in the year, and then Mac-T basically came out and threw Petry under the bus. Is it any wonder that when Mac-T came out with a fairly insulting contract offer that was less then Nikitin's that Petry looked around the room and the lack of talent in that room and what is probably a fairly toxic relationship with management and said, nah get me out of here.
Now to be honest, I'm surprised at the trade itself, I get that Montreal got him with a fairly poor return in a buyers market, but I have to wonder what Detroit offered considering that all signs indicate that Detroit is very actively looking for a defenseman.
I look at the contracts that Mac-T gave to Poulliot, and Purcell and Nikitin and the poor return for Petry and have to wonder if Edmonton wouldn't have been a better team with this guy at the wheel
Now I don't know what Mac-T learned while getting his Master's degree in fire arms repair or whatever he got it in, but its pretty clear that planning, public relations and negotiations were the optional courses that he choose not to take and instead took advanced hair tinting 101, glasses selections to match your wardrobe and how to say stupid things 201.
But one thing is for sure
Even the Ocelot can't figure out what he's up to
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03-02-2015, 10:57 AM
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The real travesty in all of this is that now 2 more draft picks will be forced to join the Oilers' organization at the draft.
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03-02-2015, 11:17 AM
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Headline says it all:
Jeff Petry deal exposes the Edmonton Oilers’ managerial incompetence
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Petry was averaging three seconds less than 21 minutes per game for Edmonton. That puts him well ahead of team captain Andrew Ference, the handsomely-paid veteran who MacTavish made an early hire with a four-year free agent contract. It puts him further ahead of Nikita Nikitin, a player the Oilers prioritized to such a degree that they traded a draft pick to Columbus for his rights and then signed him to a two-year deal worth $4.5 million annually. There’s another drop in ice time down to Mark Fayne, MacTavish’s other big free agent acquisition for the defence.
If Petry is really a No. 5 defenceman who even at inflated deadline prices is worth only a little more than a second-round pick, what are we to make of the three defencemen signed to multi-year, big-money contracts by this general manager? The team’s coaches clearly value Petry higher than that trio, after all. There is no credible take other than to say that those three are even worse.
There is no good narrative that can realistically be spun about the Oilers from this trade. They either lost the trade or revealed the current general manager’s free agent program as a spectacular failure. A really pessimistic person might suggest they managed both feats at once.
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03-02-2015, 11:21 AM
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So they get rid of their best defenceman, didn't pick one up on waivers, but waived Keith Aulie? Great planning there.
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03-02-2015, 11:26 AM
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What's funny is that this thread could be merged with the e=ng thread and it would fit perfectly.
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03-02-2015, 11:34 AM
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Norm!
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03-02-2015, 11:36 AM
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Hopefully Petry signs for $4M, or maybe even $3.9 in the offseason and says the only reason he didn't do it in Edmonton was because E=NG
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03-02-2015, 11:44 AM
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Not to defend Oilers management too much, but that trade is more than fair for Petry. Just because he was getting 20 minutes + of ice-time per game doesn't mean he is worth that much to other teams.
Oiler fans were over valuing him I think.
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03-02-2015, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Not to defend Oilers management too much, but that trade is more than fair for Petry. Just because he was getting 20 minutes + of ice-time per game doesn't mean he is worth that much to other teams.
Oiler fans were over valuing him I think.
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I think 95% of hockey fans would agree this was a fair trade for Petry. The general happiness in this thread stems from the fact that oiler fans thought he would fetch much more, and again they were brought down to reality.
Also, when do the Oilers start trading for "now". They are making solid trades for the future, but isn't the future now for them? Perron was a good trade, but again, when will they start trading for "now"?
Again, what a joke they are.
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03-02-2015, 12:03 PM
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I think most Oiler fans are upset at how he was treated and that he is gone now. He was probably their best Dman and next year is going to be worse.
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03-02-2015, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
I think 95% of hockey fans would agree this was a fair trade for Petry. The general happiness in this thread stems from the fact that oiler fans thought he would fetch much more, and again they were brought down to reality.
Also, when do the Oilers start trading for "now". They are making solid trades for the future, but isn't the future now for them? Perron was a good trade, but again, when will they start trading for "now"?
Again, what a joke they are.
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I think they've thrown the towel in "now". Their looking at Nurse, Draisaitl, 2015 1st + the return on Hall/Eberle in 2-3 years.
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03-02-2015, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
I think they've thrown the towel in "now". Their looking at Nurse, Draisaitl, 2015 1st + the return on Hall/Eberle in 2-3 years.
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Well the good part of this is that we can gain more happiness knowing the Oilers won't even be a bubble team for at least 2-3 years. Schadenfreude I believe is the word.
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03-02-2015, 12:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Not to defend Oilers management too much, but that trade is more than fair for Petry. Just because he was getting 20 minutes + of ice-time per game doesn't mean he is worth that much to other teams.
Oiler fans were over valuing him I think.
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Of course they were but thats not the point. He was the defenceman the coach trusted the most despite the GM paying him the least.
Furthermore, NHL teams require NHL players in key positions and the Oilers just traded an NHL player, arguably their best defenceman, for more magic beans. Again.
You know who trades NHL players for magic beans? Rebuilding teams and idiots.
We know the Oilers are at least one of those things for certain, but it appears that they're now both.
I think this is #5. Or it might even be #6.
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