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				No, but like I said, that is what they will ask for as they have zero desire or incentive to deal him.
			
		 
	 
	
 
How do you know what they'll ask for?
		
 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 
 
	
		
 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			02-26-2015, 10:16 AM
			
			
		 
		
			 
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			Boomer thinks the Flames can get Rattie for Glencross. Would be awesome
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 
 
	
		
 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			02-26-2015, 10:22 AM
			
			
		 
		
			 
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				Boomer thinks the Flames can get Rattie for Glencross. Would be awesome
			
		 
	 
	
 
I wouldn't mind something along the lines of Glencross and a 4th for Rattie. I think you have to sweeten the deal a little bit to get prospects that are 22 that are pretty much scoring at the same pace. We have enough 4th round pick type of players. and we need some more proven prospects.
		
 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 
 
	
		
 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			02-26-2015, 10:26 AM
			
			
		 
		
			 
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			Everyone needs more RATTie: 
 
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			02-26-2015, 10:28 AM
			
			
		 
		
			 
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			I think Flames could get Colton Parayko from the Blues 
 
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			02-26-2015, 10:29 AM
			
			
		 
		
			 
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			Is Rattie now trending to be a better prospect than Bart?
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 
 
	
		
 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			02-26-2015, 10:30 AM
			
			
		 
		
			 
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				Is Rattie now trending to be a better prospect than Bart?
			
		 
	 
	
 
It's looking like it. Rattie wasn't thrown into the NHL like Sven was.
		
 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 
 
	
		
 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			02-26-2015, 10:31 AM
			
			
		 
		
			 
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				Is Rattie now trending to be a better prospect than Bart?
			
		 
	 
	
 
31 goals in the AHL and 17 this year in 48 games. Looks to be better anyways
		
 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 
 
	
		
 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			02-26-2015, 10:32 AM
			
			
		 
		
			 
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			So I read in the other topic that Hanowski was not skating today. How funny would it be if he was added to a deal to make it work. 
  
ETYA:  sureloss says maintenance day, so damn.
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 
 
	
		
 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			02-26-2015, 10:32 AM
			
			
		 
		
			 
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				31 goals in the AHL and 17 this year in 48 games. Looks to be better anyways
			
		 
	 
	
 
Remember how everyone was saying Bart was the one stirring the drink on that line in Portland. I guess we are about ready to eat crow on that one.
		
 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 
 
	
		
 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			02-26-2015, 10:33 AM
			
			
		 
		
			 
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				Remember how everyone was saying Bart was the one stirring the drink on that line in Portland. I guess we are about ready to eat crow on that one.
			
		 
	 
	
 
I said the opposite. Got some flack for it 
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			02-26-2015, 10:35 AM
			
			
		 
		
			 
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Glencross has limited no move with 6 teams on it?  Mackenzie got his facts wrong or is this new info?  Sounds like a guy not plugged into anything associated with glencross.
		
 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			02-26-2015, 10:35 AM
			
			
		 
		
			 
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				Remember how everyone was saying Bart was the one stirring the drink on that line in Portland. I guess we are about ready to eat crow on that one.
			
		 
	 
	
 
That's because he was.. Baertchi has regressed tremendously in this past year. If you watch Junior highlights, all you see is Rattie scoring empty net goals courtesy of sweet Baertchi plays.
		
 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 
 
	
		
 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			02-26-2015, 10:36 AM
			
			
		 
		
			 
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				Remember how everyone was saying Bart was the one stirring the drink on that line in Portland. I guess we are about ready to eat crow on that one.
			
		 
	 
	
 
No we're not.  Baertschi WAS the one stirring the drink.
  
 We will see how they both progress and how their careers eventually unfold, but that doesn't change what they were in Portland
		
 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 
 
	
		
 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 
 
 
	
		
			
				
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			02-26-2015, 10:37 AM
			
			
		 
		
			 
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				Remember how everyone was saying Bart was the one stirring the drink on that line in Portland. I guess we are about ready to eat crow on that one.
			
		 
	 
	
 
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				I said the opposite. Got some flack for it  
 
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Uh, Baertschi WAS an awesome junior player, and his last year there he "stirred the drink" as much as (or more than) anyone else on that team.
Maybe Rattie has progressed more since then (debatable), still doesn't change the fact that Baertschi was an awesome junior player.
		
 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 
 
	
		
 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			02-26-2015, 10:38 AM
			
			
		 
		
			 
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				Remember how everyone was saying Bart was the one stirring the drink on that line in Portland. I guess we are about ready to eat crow on that one.
			
		 
	 
	
 
Why are you saying that?
Rattie: 
77 Pts in 120 AHL Games.
0.64 PPG in AHL
1 assist in 6 NHL Games
Baertschi:
77 Pts in 107 AHL Games.
0.72 PPG in AHL
28 Pts in 66 NHL Games.
Baertschi > Rattie.
The very idea that Rattie has progressed more than Sven is nothing more than fans thinking the grass is greener on the other side.
		
 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 
 
	
		
 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 
 
 
	
		
			
				
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			02-26-2015, 10:44 AM
			
			
		 
		
			 
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				That's because he was.. Baertchi has regressed tremendously in this past year. If you watch Junior highlights, all you see is Rattie scoring empty net goals courtesy of sweet Baertchi plays.
			
		 
	 
	
 
That's just not true. Did he suddenly them learn how to score when there was a goalie in the net in the AHL? 
Baertschi was a very good junior player. So was Rattie. There were tons of posts on how Rattie only scored because of Baertschi, but somehow he kept scoring in the AHL. 
Rattie is a good player all on his own
		
 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 
 
	
		
 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			02-26-2015, 10:47 AM
			
			
		 
		
			 
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				Why are you saying that? 
  
Rattie:  
77 Pts in 120 AHL Games. 
0.64 PPG in AHL 
1 assist in 6 NHL Games 
  
Baertschi: 
77 Pts in 107 AHL Games. 
0.72 PPG in AHL 
28 Pts in 66 NHL Games. 
  
Baertschi > Rattie. 
  
The very idea that Rattie has progressed more than Sven is nothing more than fans thinking the grass is greener on the other side.
			
		 
	 
	
 
Well it looks like they are trending in opposite directions is what im saying but id love for him to be a player for us.
		
 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 
 
	
		
 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			02-26-2015, 10:48 AM
			
			
		 
		
			 
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				That's just not true. Did he suddenly them learn how to score when there was a goalie in the net in the AHL?  
 
Baertschi was a very good junior player. So was Rattie. There were tons of posts on how Rattie only scored because of Baertschi, but somehow he kept scoring in the AHL.  
 
Rattie is a good player all on his own
			
		 
	 
	
 
So then if some said Baertschi was the one stirring the drink, why would you say "the opposite".
Is it fair to say that they were both "stirring the drink" then?
		
 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 
 
	
		
 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 
 
 
	
		
			
				
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