02-05-2015, 01:38 PM
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#41
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Originally Posted by Pierre "Monster" McGuire
More importantly, does Kane stand around and wait for his track suit to finish in the dryer? Does he leave the arena in all of his hockey gear like a 13-year-old Atom? Does he borrow a set of clothes from a teammate of a similar size? Did he leave the arena naked?
These are the important questions.
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He sewed himself a new suit using loose hundred dollar bills.
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02-05-2015, 01:38 PM
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#42
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My good friend went to high school with Kane in Vancouver. From what I've heard about Kane's (without mentioning specifics) personality and assuming he hasn't changed all that much, I wouldn't want him anywhere near the Flames.
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02-05-2015, 01:38 PM
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#43
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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Kane deserves a lot of blame for not being an idiot a bad teammate but I blame management for letting it get to this. Cheveldayoff has put himself in a no-win situation of having to sell low. He's obviously known for some time that Kane isn't popular in the locker room but by not attempting to resolve the issue by moving Kane he's let it build to this and now Kane's relationship with his teammates is probably beyond repair and every team in the league is going to be very cautious expecting to buy low. That team could be a lot better if the GM wasn't so scared to make an impactful trade.
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02-05-2015, 01:38 PM
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#44
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How did I not know Kane was from Vancouver. Everything makes so much sense now..
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02-05-2015, 01:39 PM
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#45
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Screw that.
That is some childish crap if you are throwing teammates clothes in the shower, chopping them up, throwing them in the garbage etc.
It's a professional sports league, if he is being immature it doesn't mean you act even more immature to cancel that out. How the hell is that going to solve the problem?
Terrible leadership in the locker room and from management if this has been going on long term and it's still the case.
Would that behaviour fly at any organization outside of hockey?
If he is breaking team rules then scratch him or suspend him. You don't just let his teammates destroy his clothes and possessions.
IMO there is the potential for some real Miami Dolphins- Ritchie Incognito style stuff here if this is truly ongoing and nothing was done to stop it or rectify it.
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I may have agreed with you had this been the first reported incident. I would bet that the leadership group in Winnipeg tried to talk to Kane first - maybe even a few times. For them to do this (and apparently, not the first time) really hints at Kane not being very receptive to change, and it is his team mates that are probably extremely frustrated. Professional? Of course not. However, given the history, they are probably fed up with Kane, and it has simply escalated into this drama.
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02-05-2015, 01:39 PM
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#46
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
Lol. It's a frickin' track suit that got wet in a shower. The players obviously take their image seriously enough to think this is affront to them , the team and the league and Kane isn't getting it or just doesn't care.
This whole situation is a mess but lets not pretend that Kane is undeserving of his team mates reprisals.
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That is fine. Kane is at fault for breaking team rules and should be punished by the organization if that is the case.
If his teammates want to do something as well, they should do something, but in what way is it acceptable to throw somebody's clothes in the garbage, chop up their clothes, or throw them in the shower.
If as United said it wasn't the first time it clearly wasn't working and the message wasn't getting through.
Whether it is the accepted norm in hockey, or if Kane deserved it is irrelevant.
IMO it is childish and despicable behaviour and it is something the team should have stepped in to prevent long before this incident.
Could you see this flying in our locker room with Gio, Hartley, Burke (a big anti bullying advocate) and Trevliving in charge? Doubtful, and if it had happened I doubt it would have lasted long enough to reach such a boiling point.
Last edited by SuperMatt18; 02-05-2015 at 01:42 PM.
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02-05-2015, 01:39 PM
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#47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
yes, but then there would be no chance of keeping it quiet and not affecting trade value.
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whoops
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02-05-2015, 01:40 PM
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#48
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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McKenzie chimes in:
http://www.tsn.ca/talent/more-questi...drama-1.200583
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Much has been said and written about Evander Kane and the Winnipeg Jets. There's bound to be a lot more, too. In fact, here you go:
1. Pardon the pun, but some might suggest this is simply the case of a "round Peg, square hole," that this week's issue with Kane is really just the latest in a festering "bad fit" scenario that has been going on for years between Kane and the Jets. It is a poorly kept secret Kane is not beloved by some teammates and the feeling is undoubtedly mutual.
2. Kane has been playing with and battling through myriad injuries this season. He came back early from an MCL sprain. He has played with fractured bones in two separate injuries. He also has another season-long injury that quite likely will require off-season surgery, if not sooner. Kane is currently seeing doctors and getting imaging to determine his playing status and/or course of action.
3. As Gary Lawless first reported in the Winnipeg Free Press yesterday, Kane violated the team's dress code -- wearing a track suit instead of a suit -- when he showed up to a midday team meeting in Vancouver. It is highly unlikely, though, that the dress code violation was actually the primary reason he was a coach's decision/healthy scratch against the Canucks that night.
4. The dress code violation, though, did apparently trigger a chain reaction of events/decisions that led to Kane's absence from the lineup.
Kane was either pranked or tormented (interpretation is wide open) by a teammate or teammates for his track suit attire. That wasn't well received by Kane, who later in the day was not on the team bus to the rink (worth noting, though, players aren't obliged to take the bus).
5. It is not entirely clear what happened after that -- who said exactly what; who exactly talked to whom -- but the sense seems to be Kane indicated to the Jets he was injured and would not be available to play that night. If that is indeed the case, one could only imagine the Jets thought Kane was more piqued about the track suit episode than he was injured, although the team has noted he has been playing through injury much of this season.
Whatever.
The end result was, by game time that night, Kane was listed by the Jets as a coach's decision/healthy scratch.
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02-05-2015, 01:40 PM
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#49
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This is exactly why I'm happy that Feaster and now the current management place importance on character.
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02-05-2015, 01:41 PM
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#50
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haha, remember when Jets fans thought their team wasn't going to just slide back into their traditional role of mediocre to poor team?
Poor things
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02-05-2015, 01:43 PM
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#51
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Lifetime Suspension
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Known about Kane's issues for 3 years now. I was really hoping that he would mature into a leader, and solid player. Very disappointing. If Kane's not traded, I certainly never want him to play for the Jets again.
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02-05-2015, 01:44 PM
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#52
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Join Date: Jun 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre "Monster" McGuire
This is exactly why I'm happy that Feaster and now the current management place importance on character.
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but ... Shinkaruk!!! Don't you know he's from Calgary?
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02-05-2015, 01:45 PM
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#53
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
That is fine. Kane is at fault for breaking team rules and should be punished by the organization if that is the case.
If his teammates want to do something as well, they should do something, but in what way is it acceptable to throw somebody's clothes in the garbage, chop up their clothes, or throw them in the shower.
If as United said it wasn't the first time it clearly wasn't working and the message wasn't getting through.
Whether it is the accepted norm in hockey, or if Kane deserved it is irrelevant.
IMO it is childish and despicable behaviour and it is something the team should have stepped in to prevent long before this incident.
Could you see this flying in our locker room with Gio, Hartley, Burke (a big anti bullying advocate) and Trevliving in charge? Doubtful
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A $200 track suit is hardly something to get into a huff about. Especially since it wasn't supposed to be in the locker room in the first place.
Despicable and childish are terms used in hyperbole here. Management is at fault for not nipping this in the bud sooner? yes. Players taking things into their own hands because of inaction by management is hardly despicable behaviour. You're making a mountain out of a mole hill.
Who cares about the what if"s and the Flames, it's not like the locker room ha been nothing but happiness and joy and commradery in the past here either.
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02-05-2015, 01:45 PM
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#54
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Abbotsford, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devo22
but ... Shinkaruk!!! Don't you know he's from Calgary?
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So happy they dodged that bullet.
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02-05-2015, 01:46 PM
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#55
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jets4Life
Known about Kane's issues for 3 years now. I was really hoping that he would mature into a leader, and solid player. Very disappointing. If Kane's not traded, I certainly never want him to play for the Jets again.
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His attitude seems like a very poorly kept secret.
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02-05-2015, 01:48 PM
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#56
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GoJetsGo
Extreme d-baggery exposed and Vancouver fans licking their lips at acquiring said d-bag.
Sounds about right. Never change Canuck fan(s).
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being bullied by teammates is extreme d-baggery
who knew.... guess things are different in Winnipeg
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02-05-2015, 01:49 PM
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#57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by united
As I've posted before, Kane and his teammates do not get along at all. He doesn't care about anything but himself. A couple years ago the Jets even flew his parents to Winnipeg for a week to try and mediate the situation after a couple near fist fights in dressing room, and it worked for the remainder of that season. Next season? Back to the same.
He's has his clothes chopped up, thrown in showers, thrown in the garbage but he doesn't care. It's as simple as that. He keeps doing it. Dude is a nutcase.
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There was also that little issue of walking out of fancy restaurants, without bothering to pay his tab.
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02-05-2015, 01:49 PM
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#58
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Daren Millard @darenmillard
Add to @reporterchris on @EKane9JETS. I'm told teammates in ATL tried to send a msg on track suit then by cutting sweats into short shorts.
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02-05-2015, 01:51 PM
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#59
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Franchise Player
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people acting like a 22 year old kid with alleged attitude problems is turning him in to a lost cause
Patrick Kane did far worse than what Evander is alleged to do and he's now the face of the league in the US
Tyler Seguin did much of the same type of things in Boston, and is now thriving in Dallas after having been given away for cheap
so ya I wouldn't mind the Canucks picking up a 22 year old proven (at the very least) 20-25 goal scorer whose value is likely as low as it's ever going to be
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02-05-2015, 01:52 PM
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#60
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
A $200 track suit is hardly something to get into a huff about.
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There are $200 track suits? I've owned actual suits that cost that much.
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