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Old 01-20-2015, 10:55 PM   #581
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LOL

sure it does.
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Old 01-21-2015, 12:28 AM   #582
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I said that politics is a blood sport and that if you believe enough in what a party stands for you should continue to support that party even if things are not going well for them. NDP and Liberal supporters have done that for years and apparently its acceptable stance. Just not for Conservative supporters I guess, in your opinion.
There's a difference between "things aren't going well for them" and "they're enacting policies I don't agree with." If you continue to vote for someone in spite of the latter because of some blind loyalty then, quite frankly, you're an ideologue who shouldn't have any business debating politics.
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Old 01-21-2015, 07:50 AM   #583
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Haha, I think it's actually comical how much politics is sports team allegiance with Rerun. The best part is, he actually admitted earlier in the thread, saying you should stick with your guys through the bad times.

I mean lots of people do it, but don't want to admit it, but he just comes right out and says it like it's an admirable thing to do, lol.
Lets be fair here. Rerun vs. Resurrection is basically the Sabres vs. the Oilers.
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Old 01-21-2015, 07:51 AM   #584
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I swear to god, spin doctoring is by far the best part of politics.
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Old 01-23-2015, 07:23 AM   #585
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Different columnist at National Post gives a take on Trudeau's unknown economic abyss. As stated a few days ago, the longer the Libs actual brainpower let Trudeau go without handing him some substance to talk about, the more critique he's going to get that he has no clue:

http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/01...eau-who-knows/

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We’re now in an election year and nobody has the foggiest idea what the Liberals would do to steady the economy when things get as rocky as they are now

or this tidbit showing Trudeau talking out of both sides of his mouth

Mr. Trudeau has sounded far from convincing in his role as prime minister-in-waiting. He accused Mr. Harper of “putting all his eggs in one basket, counting on the oil price to remain high,” but what does that mean? The Conservatives tried to facilitate resource development (to no great success), so would Mr. Trudeau erect barriers?

His statement suggests diversification of the economy, but in what sectors and how?

Manufacturing? Earlier this week in London, Ont., he talked of “transitioning away from manufacturing-based employment as a driver of the economy.” Yet by the time he got to auto-manufacturing-rich Windsor the following day, he talked about “the need for the federal government to step up on manufacturing.”
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Old 02-04-2015, 12:48 PM   #586
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Interesting poll out today. This thread title is ridiculous by the way.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle22780672/
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Old 02-04-2015, 01:24 PM   #587
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I think that says the most about the public perception of Muclair. No one has any strong feelings one way or the other.
Trudeau is perceived as the most fun while Harper seems to be the most competent.
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Old 02-04-2015, 01:28 PM   #588
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Interesting poll out today. This thread title is ridiculous by the way.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle22780672/
The George Bush Polling Factor.
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Old 02-04-2015, 01:56 PM   #589
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Well that poll was a waste.

If I want someone to govern and make decisions and take a stance that poll says Harper.

If I want someone to braid my daughters hair or go skateboarding with my son I'll get Trudeau.

If I want someone to change my tires I get Mulcair.
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Old 02-04-2015, 02:03 PM   #590
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Yeah, it is a pretty meaningless poll. People judging people on things personal without really knowing them. It's pretty superficial.

Except the question of whom you would trust to invest your money. Wasn't Harper the one telling people to invest just before everything crashed in 2008/2009? I would take a wild card in Trudeau or Mulcair over that bad advice.
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All I got from that poll is polling companies are really bored right now.
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Except the question of whom you would trust to invest your money. Wasn't Harper the one telling people to invest just before everything crashed in 2008/2009? I would take a wild card in Trudeau or Mulcair over that bad advice.
I think it was the opposite. When the market was down Harper said that was a good time to buy, he was criticized for being insensitive.
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Yeah, it is a pretty meaningless poll. People judging people on things personal without really knowing them. It's pretty superficial.

Except the question of whom you would trust to invest your money. Wasn't Harper the one telling people to invest just before everything crashed in 2008/2009? I would take a wild card in Trudeau or Mulcair over that bad advice.
No, it was after the crash that he said was a great time to invest, and he was 100% correct. I made a lot of money doing that. (ie. Visa was @ $52 vs $260 today)

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/this-p...ridge-1.740038
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I think it was the opposite. When the market was down Harper said that was a good time to buy, he was criticized for being insensitive.
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No, it was after the crash that he said was a great time to invest, and he was 100% correct. I made a lot of money doing that. (ie. Visa was @ $52 vs $260 today)

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/this-p...ridge-1.740038
Yeah, it was good advice for people that were investing, but not great for people who were already invested and looking for income (such as retirees). The point wasn't whether he was right about the longer term direction of the stock market though, the point was that for a PM to say that to people who had just seen their life savings cut in half was pretty callous. I know that on this board where the demographic is younger, it might not seem so, but I sat down with people in that exact scenario at that time, and frankly you have to be pretty cold to say "good buying opportunity" to a 70 year old in that situation.
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What would you prefer that he said?
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Old 02-04-2015, 03:14 PM   #596
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Sorry, my details were off on that one. Thanks for going easy one me...
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Yeah, it was good advice for people that were investing, but not great for people who were already invested and looking for income (such as retirees). The point wasn't whether he was right about the longer term direction of the stock market though, the point was that for a PM to say that to people who had just seen their life savings cut in half was pretty callous. I know that on this board where the demographic is younger, it might not seem so, but I sat down with people in that exact scenario at that time, and frankly you have to be pretty cold to say "good buying opportunity" to a 70 year old in that situation.
The point of my reply wasn't regarding whether or not it was tactful, the reply was because he said Harper gave bad advice. It wasn't.
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What would you prefer that he said?
How about admitting his error when he said he wouldn't run a deficit?
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How about admitting his error when he said he wouldn't run a deficit?
Nice deflection. What would you prefer that he said about the stock market at the time?
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How about admitting his error when he said he wouldn't run a deficit?
Is that what you said to the 70 year olds in your office!?

I can't imagine they appreciated it.
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