[News] Mike Richards on waivers - CLEARS

[Hack&Lube]

Richards will be 30 in a couple of days. He's past his apex and unless he learns from the school of hardwork and conditioning as Roberts/Jagr/Selanne, he's not going to last in the league any more. From everything we are hearing from LA, he doesn't have the drive at all anymore. He got his giant 12-year paycheque and 2 cups. Is he still motivated at all?


This would be a bad pick up unless we are able to shed some weight as well and to pick up a good prospect or pick from LA.

[automaton 3]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

The Flames have a few guys with PO experience, and a couple rings. Mind you, a couple are CP whipping boys.

I had thought Hudler, Bollig and Hiller all had rings but could be mistaken...?

Also, Hartley and Gelinas.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by automaton 3

I had thought Hudler, Bollig and Hiller all had rings but could be mistaken...?

Also, Hartley and Gelinas.

Bollig and Hudler do. Hiller was still in Switzerland when the Ducks won the cup.

[albertGQ]

Would LA do this trade?

Mike Richards
Roland Mackewon
2015 first rounder

for

Matt Stajan

[Dan02]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

IMO, if you want Toffoli in a Richards deal Jooris or Backlund is likely someone the Kings would ask for. Flames may still have to add.

Then the Flames walk, there are very few teams in this league with the cap space/budget to even think about taking on that albatross of a contract. LA is dealing from a position of extreme weakness here not in the position to dictate terms or the Flames just let them eat the contract which is almost 10% of their cap space.

As I see it, Richards right now is a 1 mil a year player, if LA wants us to take that contract they need to add value that's equal to 4.75 mil a year over 5 years either through taking back bad contracts of our own or through adding top end cost controlled players.

A mid level prospect or bottom of the lineup type guy isn't going to do it and certainly not with quality like Jooris or Backlund being sent back.

If LA doesn't like it then they can choke on that contract out of contention. I'm fine with that.

If Calgary is going to take on that contract it, the trade needs to make Calgary substantially better not just be a even trade.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by albertGQ

Would LA do this trade?

Mike Richards
Roland Mackewon
2015 first rounder

for

Matt Stajan

Maybe the Flames kick in their 2nd and the Kings retain 20% of the salary?

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by albertGQ

Would LA do this trade?

Mike Richards
Roland Mackewon
2015 first rounder

for

Matt Stajan

LA wouldn't, Flames would.

I do hope a deal gets done with Richards, as it will be interesting to see what the value of that cap space is. I am not convinced it would be a mid first rounder in a decent draft, but would be happy if I am wrong on that.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I listened to the Francis interview and Waker chimed in with his own proposals at the end.

Stajan for Richards and a 3rd
Bollig for Richards and a 2nd
Smid for Richards straight up.

All terrible deals for Calgary. I think we need that first round pick coming back or the Kings eat $2M per season on the deal

Those deals are moronic.

Anyone thinking about what the compensation should be for Richards, needs to stop and think about how they would feel if they were the one signing cheques totalling $28M.

This is a lot of money and it's a big term.

The compensation has to be significant or there is no way in hell the Flames are going to do the Kings a favour.

Stajan for Richards + 3rd is not going to entice the Flames to take on a $28M contract.

More like Stajan for Richards + 1st + prospect. At a minimum.

Even that is tough to get on board with.

[Sylvanfan]

It sort of amazes me how teams can take an asset with value and turn it into a liability by attaching a contract to that asset.

Is Richards having a case of mid career burn out, where maybe he can get it back and rebound to be productive. Or has the Dany Heatley school of offseason work outs rendered him finished at the age of 29....much like many players who played in the 70's and 80's (against peers who did the same thing).

If Richards had no contract attached to him, I'm sure several NHL teams would be willing to take a risk. But that contract is making 30 teams stay clear of him. It's pretty amazing, as in 2004, he easily could have been traded.

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by albertGQ

Would LA do this trade?

Mike Richards
Roland Mackewon
2015 first rounder

for

Matt Stajan

I'd be over the moon if Calgary could pull something like that off. That's essentially giving up 2 first rounders from the Kings perspective just to unload a bad contract. And you also expec them to take a bad contract back? Yah, not going to happen. Even if Flames throw in Baertschi I don't think LA would go for it.

Edit: Ok, I guess Mackewon is a second rounder, so scratch that Baertschi comment I made. But I still don't think LA does the original proposed trade.

[SuperMatt18]

Could be a little crazy but could it be Smid's injury that caused the deal to break down late.

I don't think the Kings want Stajan, part of moving Richards is because they want to open a spot for Shore.

They might be more interested in Smid, shorter term left and d is a bigger need.

Personally I would rather the Flames keep Stajan and not move him for a cap dump. With his low salary he might start to have value, especially if we ate another million.

Also if fitness appears to be an issue it would be interesting to see what our team trainer thinks of Richards, considering he was in L.A. prior to Calgary. Might be a little inside knowledge if he thinks he could turn around Richards habits.

[Vinny01]

Francis on the FAN talking about it right now

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Francis on the FAN talking about it right now

I could use a good laugh. Perhaps a quick summary when he is done?

[FlameZilla]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Francis on the FAN mindlessly making things up now.

fyp

[CSharp]

Kings would have to do what Calgary did to shed the high salary cap of Richards to get rid of him. Richards sucked when he was with Columbus. With Carter for two cup wins and now finally done with the Kings, I sure's hope he doesn't come to Calgary. Without Carter, Richards is just an overpriced aging centerman that really showed no ambition. The Kings still has the better have from Phillies.

[wingmaker]

Originally Posted by CSharp

Kings would have to do what Calgary did to shed the high salary cap of Richards to get rid of him. Richards sucked when he was with Columbus. With Carter for two cup wins and now finally done with the Kings, I sure's hope he doesn't come to Calgary. Without Carter, Richards is just an overpriced aging centerman that really showed no ambition. The Kings still has the better have from Phillies.

Richards never played for Columbus, that was Carter. Richards went right from the Flyers to the Kings.

[cDnStealth]

Originally Posted by CSharp

Kings would have to do what Calgary did to shed the high salary cap of Richards to get rid of him. Richards sucked when he was with Columbus. With Carter for two cup wins and now finally done with the Kings, I sure's hope he doesn't come to Calgary. Without Carter, Richards is just an overpriced aging centerman that really showed no ambition. The Kings still has the better have from Phillies.

Carter was the one who played in Columbus... Richards was traded from Philly to LA.

[ClubFlames]

Originally Posted by CSharp

Kings would have to do what Calgary did to shed the high salary cap of Richards to get rid of him. Richards sucked when he was with Columbus. With Carter for two cup wins and now finally done with the Kings, I sure's hope he doesn't come to Calgary. Without Carter, Richards is just an overpriced aging centerman that really showed no ambition. The Kings still has the better have from Phillies.

Mike Richards was never in Columbus, Jeff Carter was and he is the one who sucked in Columbus and cried his way out of there.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by CSharp

Kings would have to do what Calgary did to shed the high salary cap of Richards to get rid of him. Richards sucked when he was with Columbus. With Carter for two cup wins and now finally done with the Kings, I sure's hope he doesn't come to Calgary. Without Carter, Richards is just an overpriced aging centerman that really showed no ambition. The Kings still has the better have from Phillies.

Haha. Babby's!

[albertGQ]

Originally Posted by CSharp

Kings would have to do what Calgary did to shed the high salary cap of Richards to get rid of him. Richards sucked when he was with Columbus. With Carter for two cup wins and now finally done with the Kings, I sure's hope he doesn't come to Calgary. Without Carter, Richards is just an overpriced aging centerman that really showed no ambition. The Kings still has the better have from Phillies.

When was Richards with Columbus? Wasn't he traded from Philly to LA?