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Old 01-28-2015, 10:04 AM   #641
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Can't believe some of you people still have any interest in this.

Even with compensation pieces like a 1st + prospect the risk is too much for that STUPID Richards contract. Ridiculous. Not worth it at all.

Just let the Kings deal with that abomination of a contract and choke on it FFS.
Exactly. And we know that LA would promptly use that freed up cap space and acquire a defencemen like Franson or Sekera and make a push for a playoff spot. LA is struggling and we should not be doing them any favors.

Times like this I'm really glad that Treliving has Burke around to bounce ideas off of.
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Just a quick question but could we trade for him and then place him on waivers and send him to Addy if he cleared?
Costly I know but if we pick up some assets in the trade is it worth it??
if the Flames were to trade for him right now, they could send him to Addy without putting him on waivers.
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I would take him on in Calgary, I know we have a jam already at center or will have one next year but I think Richards will help the kids.
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Old 01-28-2015, 10:07 AM   #644
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I would take him on in Calgary, I know we have a jam already at center or will have one next year but I think Richards will help the kids.
Especially when the kids are up for contract extensions and decide to walk as free agents because richards makes what they should be making.
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I would take him on in Calgary, I know we have a jam already at center or will have one next year but I think Richards will help the kids.

Help them to the bar or the buffet table?
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I would take him on in Calgary, I know we have a jam already at center or will have one next year but I think Richards will help the kids.
What exactly is he gonna help them with? If anything, all he would do is take a spot away from a kid who probably deserves it more.
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I am sure the Flames can do that, but it doesn't matter because in the new CBA his contract counts against the cap regardless.

So until 2020, the Flames are paying him no matter where he sits.

This deal only works with a bit of retention from the Kings side, a jettison from the Flames side, and a good prospect coming to Calgary. There is no great return for LA with this contract and it seems like Treliving is their only suitor, advantage Calgary.
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Old 01-28-2015, 10:12 AM   #648
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I am sure the Flames can do that, but it doesn't matter because in the new CBA his contract counts against the cap regardless.

So until 2020, the Flames are paying him no matter where he sits.

This deal only works with a bit of retention from the Kings side, a jettison from the Flames side, and a good prospect coming to Calgary. There is no great return for LA with this contract and it seems like Treliving is their only suitor, advantage Calgary.
Don't give Brad any crazy ideas.
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Especially when the kids are up for contract extensions and decide to walk as free agents because richards makes what they should be making.
Obviously the Flames wouldn't take on Richards unless the Kings are paying part of his salary, probably a million per year of it. They would still need to take a bad contract in return (Stajan) or give up another asset as well.
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Old 01-28-2015, 10:13 AM   #650
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All of the negativity towards picking up Richards has made me more interested in looking at the ramifications of a move like this.

If we consider a Raymond for Richards move, then for the next 3 years we are taking on an extra 2,75M a year. If Richards is then bought out of the last 2 years of his contract, we are looking at an additional hit of under 2M for four years after that. The difference in cost will have no baring on our ability to re-sign any players, as we will have rookies on ELC for the first 3 or 4 years playing in our top 9. Money is not an issue.

This would also free up a LW position and add a RW. Richards would fit right into a 3rd line RW spot. I couldn't see him being such an anchor that he couldn't benefit a Jooris/Glencross type of line.

With the compensation being a 1st and a B level defensive prospect like Zykov, I think that I'm more on board than off.
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I'll stop cheering for the Flames if they make this trade. Even if it returns Toffili. Flames have better prospects than that already.

Only things Flames should be shopping for are a big tough top 4 d. And a big strong scoring RW.

And lots if picks.
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I would bet there will be no retained salary on a trade if it happens.

If there is, the other compensation will be greatly reduced.
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Also - by all accounts the Flames are a very tight group and Gio sets the tone. What effect would bringing in Richards have on the group, and in particular if a very popular player like Stajan is shipped out?

I just don't see much or any upside in this unless the Kings are willing to put together an incredible package, which from all accounts they are not yet willing to do.
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I'll stop cheering for the Flames if they make this trade. Even if it returns Toffili. Flames have better prospects than that already.

Only things Flames should be shopping for are a big tough top 4 d. And a big strong scoring RW.

And lots if picks.
isnt't toffili a big strong scoring right wing?
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I'll stop cheering for the Flames if they make this trade. Even if it returns Toffili. Flames have better prospects than that already.

Only things Flames should be shopping for are a big tough top 4 d. And a big strong scoring RW.

And lots if picks.
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Old 01-28-2015, 10:21 AM   #656
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The only way I would want to pick him up is if the incentives LA provided were good and then we bought out Richards.

It would suck that he would have a cap hit (albeit reduced) for buying him out, but I don't think it would be that crippling.

Asking the owners to pay that much for whatever the LA "incentives" are would be asking a lot of course.

How much money/cap hit is an additional 1st round pick or top young player/prospect worth?

I mentioned it earlier, but I would also include some type of future considerations in the deal.
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isnt't toffili a big strong scoring right wing?
He's not that big. He's a pretty average sized NHL player. Definitely fits an organizational need though.
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Old 01-28-2015, 10:24 AM   #658
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This would also free up a LW position and add a RW. Richards would fit right into a 3rd line RW spot. I couldn't see him being such an anchor that he couldn't benefit a Jooris/Glencross type of line.
We free up a LW position this year with Glencross most likely out(not that we need to let him walk). That leaves Raymond and Bollig, who we'd be better off buying out, waiving, or trading for a 7th rounder.

That leaves us with plenty of capable LW, C, and RW.

Gaudreau-Monahan-Poirier
Sven-Bennett-Hudler
Bouma-Backlund-Jooris
Wolf-Stajan-Colborne
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Look at that, no need for Mike Richards, plenty of guys who can fill in at RW. Hell, that lineup still doesn't leave room for prospects like Klimchuk, Shore, Granlund, and Reinhart who have all shown very positive signs.

Eventually near the end of his contract, Stajan's super-easy to move to clear space with a mere 3.125m cap hit, a character guy who wins faceoffs, PK, is a fantastic passer, and has never made it so that a team feels it necessary to get rid of him (first Philly, now, LA) hell we've signed him to two extensions since acquiring him - he must be doing something right.

If you can get a sure-fire deal on a legitimate Top Line RWer like Corey Perry, sure you make some moves. Mike Richards is en route to the AHL.
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Old 01-28-2015, 10:26 AM   #659
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Flames bargain chip is cap space. This would be a deal the Flames could easily walk away from. The question is how bad does LA want to free themselves of this contract. Treliving isn't an idiot. If this deal gets done I'm betting the Flames walk away like bandits.
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Old 01-28-2015, 10:28 AM   #660
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Sounds like the Sabres are also considering taking Richards contract on:

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On if Mike Richards, who was waived by the Los Angeles Kings, is a player he considered bringing in:

“On waivers? No. No.”

Murray then discusses the difficultly of adding players via waivers because of the limit on the amount of contracts per team, along with cap considerations. He also notes how you’ll sometimes see players clear waivers, and then get traded days later.
From LA's perspective if they have to give up assets to get rid of Richards, it is better to do it with someone outside their division/conference.
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