01-25-2015, 07:56 PM
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#661
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Franchise Player
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Random thought -- when was the last time we had a really good French-Canadian player on our team. Would Tanguay qualify? Maybe Marty Gelinas?
The only real stars were all guys who we let slip through the cracks (St. Louis and Giguere come to mind; Marty Brodeur to a lesser extent as we could have drafted him but didn't)...
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01-25-2015, 07:58 PM
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#662
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Franchise Player
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Poirier:
2nd in the Fastest Skater Competition with 13.960 seconds
3 for 7 in Accuracy Shooting (ran out of time, did not finish 8th shot)
Unable to score in breakaway relay
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01-25-2015, 08:01 PM
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#663
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tvp2003
Random thought -- when was the last time we had a really good French-Canadian player on our team. Would Tanguay qualify? Maybe Marty Gelinas?
The only real stars were all guys who we let slip through the cracks (St. Louis and Giguere come to mind; Marty Brodeur to a lesser extent as we could have drafted him but didn't)...
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Tanguay is a really good hockey player.
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01-25-2015, 08:53 PM
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#664
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
Tanguay is a really good hockey player.
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True -- I think my memory is coloured by how he ended things here...
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01-26-2015, 01:12 AM
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#665
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Lifetime Suspension
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Poirier, so far, has been as good as anyone selected outside of the top 10 in the 2013 draft. Looking like a better and better pick all the time.
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01-26-2015, 11:22 AM
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#666
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Gaskal
Based off of scouting, IIRC Poirier was projected to be a later 1st to early 2nd at the time of the draft. Obviously Button's list thought different and looks better in retrospect, but to a lot of people Feaster was 'going off the board'.
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Redline had Poirier at 20th on their list and said he was one of the fastest rising players in the draft. You can't look at one list and think that's consensus.
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01-26-2015, 01:53 PM
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#667
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Redline had Poirier at 20th on their list and said he was one of the fastest rising players in the draft. You can't look at one list and think that's consensus.
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Yup. Chances are ISS and CSB had Poirier as low as they did because they are spread out trying to cover everybody and get fewer looks at guys. The teams themselves will zero in on targets and spend a disproportionate amount of time scouting specific players - or in the case of Gaudreau, making it appear they aren't scouting them at all.
Poirier is one prime example of why I don't rush to judgment on guys I've never heard of.
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01-26-2015, 01:55 PM
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#668
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Franchise Player
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And just because, I still stand by my draft day prediction Hunter Shinkaruk will never crack the NHL.
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01-26-2015, 02:18 PM
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#669
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Location: Central CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Redline had Poirier at 20th on their list and said he was one of the fastest rising players in the draft. You can't look at one list and think that's consensus.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Just putting this out there but according to the scouting experts:
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Jankowski Poirier
CSS 43 39
McKeen's 37 26
ISS 55 79
Button 14 29
Prospectus 36 62
McKenzie 41 46
Excluding CSS ranks as they separate NA and European skaters/goalies, the average is
Jankowski: 36.6... Poirier 48.4
Granted, Button may be a Jankowski homer so lets exclude him too.
Jankowski: 42.25... Poirier 53.25
This certainly implies from the "expert" opinions Poirier was a bigger reach than Jankowski.
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This is a great quote from Sureloss that shows the Poirier pick was actually a bigger "reach" than the Jankowski pick. Just something to think about.
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01-26-2015, 02:35 PM
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#670
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Franchise Player
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Credit to the scouts on this pick. Looks like they have a winner.
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01-26-2015, 03:17 PM
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#671
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I think I read somewhere that the proximity to Ottawa worked into Poirier's selection. Scouts getting a look at Monahan in Ottawa, would make the short drive to see Gatineau the next night, etc.
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01-26-2015, 03:34 PM
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#672
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
Tanguay is a really good hockey player.
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8 years ago.
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01-26-2015, 03:38 PM
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#673
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
8 years ago.
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He has 32 points this year and is +5 on a bad Avs team. On pace for nearly 60 points this season.
Check facts before you hate.
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01-26-2015, 10:04 PM
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#674
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First Line Centre
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Yeah, about a month ago Tanguay burned through 3 Flames players, humiliated Russel with a wide move, dragged Ramo out of the net, and scored the go-ahead goal against the Flames.
He's still good.
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01-26-2015, 10:40 PM
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#675
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Could Care Less
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BACKCHECK!!!
Yeah, about a month ago Tanguay burned through 3 Flames players, humiliated Russel with a wide move, dragged Ramo out of the net, and scored the go-ahead goal against the Flames.
He's still good.
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I remember how much that goal pissed me off. It was an amazing goal.
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01-26-2015, 10:50 PM
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#676
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All I can get
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Emile Poirier est bon au 'Ockey.
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01-26-2015, 11:02 PM
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#677
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GoJetsGo
He has 32 points this year and is +5 on a bad Avs team. On pace for nearly 60 points this season.
Check facts before you hate.
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Ain'ters gonna ain't..
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01-26-2015, 11:26 PM
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#678
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Pretty crazy that the FLAMES may have drafted an entire line worth if top six talent in a single round that year.
Yo Dre, can I get a Hellllllll yeeeeeeah
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01-26-2015, 11:46 PM
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#679
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
I think I read somewhere that the proximity to Ottawa worked into Poirier's selection. Scouts getting a look at Monahan in Ottawa, would make the short drive to see Gatineau the next night, etc.
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Yeah, I read that too. It was also rumoured that Montreal was going to take him but things like that are pretty common when you are trying to justify your pick. Not that Poirier needs justifying, he looks like a fine pick to me, he's a RW too but I always want a defenceman.
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01-26-2015, 11:55 PM
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#680
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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The best French Canadian Flame ever might just have been Guy Chouinard. But can we count guys who sound like they were French Canadian? Then it's Theoron Fleury or Jean Gaudreau.
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