01-24-2015, 12:15 AM
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#41
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: STH since 2002
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+- doesn't always tell the story unless it is +124 and you wore #4. 
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01-24-2015, 12:24 AM
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#42
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First Line Centre
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I have always thought +/- was a valuable stat. In some way it tends to reflect the general contribution from players, even if it doesn't tell the whole story.
I would also agree with the assessment the OP has made. I 100% agree that the bottom D pairing needs an upgrade. Raymond and Bollig are surplus to requirements, unless they can turn some corner and start to contribute soon.
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01-24-2015, 12:53 AM
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#43
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Apr 2008
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I would be interested to see how third pairings on other teams measure up. Maybe more often than not the role of the third pairing is just to limit the damage than to actually be a positive.
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01-24-2015, 01:16 AM
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#44
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TapeToTape
I would be interested to see how third pairings on other teams measure up. Maybe more often than not the role of the third pairing is just to limit the damage than to actually be a positive.
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One thing is for sure. I DO NOT miss Chris Butler on that pairing.
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01-24-2015, 01:50 AM
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#45
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Apr 2008
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Okay, so almost all of the top teams have 0 negative players in their top 6 by games played. Calgary also has such a massive difference from their top 2 versus bottom 2 compared to any other team.
Not sure how Detroit is so high up in the standings.
ANA : 0 (1,3,4,5,6,13)
NSH : 0 (7,11,12,12,14,16)
TBL : 1 (-5,6,10,11,12,15)
NYI : 0 (0,0,3,4,15,15)
DET : 2 (-1,-1,1,1,2,5)
STL : 0 (0,4,7,10,12,17)
CHI : 1 (-4,0,6,12,13,14)
MTL : 0 (3,3,4,6,7,8)
PIT : 0 (0,2,7,8,8,13)
WPG : 0 (2,2,4,7,7,9)
NYR : 0 (6,9,10,10,12,15)
WSH : 0 (1,2,4,5,7,15)
BOS : 0 (1,2,3,3,6,13)
SJS : 3 (-6,-6,-2,0,4,13)
VAN : 2 (-11,-4,4,6,7,8)
CGY : 3 (-13,-12,-2,6,19,23)
LAK : 1 (-8,1,3,3,8,12)
FLA : 3 (-6,-2,-1,0,6,7)
COL : 4 (-15,-7,-2,-1,2,4)
DAL : 3 (-9,-4,-1,0,6,8)
OTT : 3 (-7,-5,-3,1,2,3)
TOR : 5 (-19,-11,-6,-4-3,11)
MIN : 2 (-13,-8,0,1,2,8)
PHI : 4 (-6,-6,-3,-2,4,5)
CBJ : 5 (-22,-16,-13,-6,-5,1)
NJD : 5 (-9,-7,-4,-2,-1,1)
CAR : 5 (-14,-13,-8,-7,-5,2)
ARI : 6 (-20,-18,-15,-11,-5,-4)
EDM : 6 (-22,-12,-11,-8,-8,-6)
BUF : 6 (-26,-23,-13,-11,-10,-7)
Last edited by TapeToTape; 01-24-2015 at 02:15 AM.
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01-24-2015, 02:02 AM
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#46
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Apr 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlameZilla
One thing is for sure. I DO NOT miss Chris Butler on that pairing.
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Not to make any point, but :
Chris Butler : 20 GP (+1)
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01-24-2015, 08:45 AM
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#47
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TapeToTape
Okay, so almost all of the top teams have 0 negative players in their top 6 by games played. Calgary also has such a massive difference from their top 2 versus bottom 2 compared to any other team.
Not sure how Detroit is so high up in the standings.
ANA : 0 (1,3,4,5,6,13)
NSH : 0 (7,11,12,12,14,16)
TBL : 1 (-5,6,10,11,12,15)
NYI : 0 (0,0,3,4,15,15)
DET : 2 (-1,-1,1,1,2,5)
STL : 0 (0,4,7,10,12,17)
CHI : 1 (-4,0,6,12,13,14)
MTL : 0 (3,3,4,6,7,8)
PIT : 0 (0,2,7,8,8,13)
WPG : 0 (2,2,4,7,7,9)
NYR : 0 (6,9,10,10,12,15)
WSH : 0 (1,2,4,5,7,15)
BOS : 0 (1,2,3,3,6,13)
SJS : 3 (-6,-6,-2,0,4,13)
VAN : 2 (-11,-4,4,6,7,8)
CGY : 3 (-13,-12,-2,6,19,23)
LAK : 1 (-8,1,3,3,8,12)
FLA : 3 (-6,-2,-1,0,6,7)
COL : 4 (-15,-7,-2,-1,2,4)
DAL : 3 (-9,-4,-1,0,6,8)
OTT : 3 (-7,-5,-3,1,2,3)
TOR : 5 (-19,-11,-6,-4-3,11)
MIN : 2 (-13,-8,0,1,2,8)
PHI : 4 (-6,-6,-3,-2,4,5)
CBJ : 5 (-22,-16,-13,-6,-5,1)
NJD : 5 (-9,-7,-4,-2,-1,1)
CAR : 5 (-14,-13,-8,-7,-5,2)
ARI : 6 (-20,-18,-15,-11,-5,-4)
EDM : 6 (-22,-12,-11,-8,-8,-6)
BUF : 6 (-26,-23,-13,-11,-10,-7)
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That's a lot of work. Great job
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01-24-2015, 09:33 AM
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#48
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Could Care Less
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TapeToTape
Okay, so almost all of the top teams have 0 negative players in their top 6 by games played. Calgary also has such a massive difference from their top 2 versus bottom 2 compared to any other team.
Not sure how Detroit is so high up in the standings.
ANA : 0 (1,3,4,5,6,13)
NSH : 0 (7,11,12,12,14,16)
TBL : 1 (-5,6,10,11,12,15)
NYI : 0 (0,0,3,4,15,15)
DET : 2 (-1,-1,1,1,2,5)
STL : 0 (0,4,7,10,12,17)
CHI : 1 (-4,0,6,12,13,14)
MTL : 0 (3,3,4,6,7,8)
PIT : 0 (0,2,7,8,8,13)
WPG : 0 (2,2,4,7,7,9)
NYR : 0 (6,9,10,10,12,15)
WSH : 0 (1,2,4,5,7,15)
BOS : 0 (1,2,3,3,6,13)
SJS : 3 (-6,-6,-2,0,4,13)
VAN : 2 (-11,-4,4,6,7,8)
CGY : 3 (-13,-12,-2,6,19,23)
LAK : 1 (-8,1,3,3,8,12)
FLA : 3 (-6,-2,-1,0,6,7)
COL : 4 (-15,-7,-2,-1,2,4)
DAL : 3 (-9,-4,-1,0,6,8)
OTT : 3 (-7,-5,-3,1,2,3)
TOR : 5 (-19,-11,-6,-4-3,11)
MIN : 2 (-13,-8,0,1,2,8)
PHI : 4 (-6,-6,-3,-2,4,5)
CBJ : 5 (-22,-16,-13,-6,-5,1)
NJD : 5 (-9,-7,-4,-2,-1,1)
CAR : 5 (-14,-13,-8,-7,-5,2)
ARI : 6 (-20,-18,-15,-11,-5,-4)
EDM : 6 (-22,-12,-11,-8,-8,-6)
BUF : 6 (-26,-23,-13,-11,-10,-7)
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^ and SJ is about to get a whole lot worse losing one of their top 4z Also Van just lost a top 4 d-man.
Thx for doing that. LOL at Oilers
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01-24-2015, 10:14 AM
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#49
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Franchise Player
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As per TapeToTape's post, the 36-point swing between Brodie (+23) and Engelland (-13) is the biggest gap in the entire league.
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