Actually it started in Syria . Iraqs Nouri al-Maliki joined forces with Syrias Al- Qaida plus angry protesters against the Assad regime.Isil (correct name) it was a joint effort with both Shia Islamists. http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ors-isis-jihad
ISIS is just an evolution of AQI. With a direct lineage from al-Zarqawi. That article is truncating history, and basically telling the rebranding as the "origin". And what are you referring to as joint effort with both Shia Islamists?
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Iraqs Nouri al-Maliki joined forces with Syrias Al- Qaida plus angry protesters against the Assad regime.Isil (correct name) it was a joint effort with both Shia Islamists.
I'll assume you're not referencing ISIS/ISIL/IS with this statement. Because that is incredibly wrong.
Even if you wanted to use the rebranding as their origin, you'll notice how the name Maliki comes up again and again as a catalyst to the rise. No Iraq, no ISIS.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but does anyone find it odd that these guys executed this with what has been described as military efficiency then left a national ID card in the back seat of their abandoned vehicle?
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but does anyone find it odd that these guys executed this with what has been described as military efficiency then left a national ID card in the back seat of their abandoned vehicle?
No. It was a one way mission. Don't think they expected to get away. A major motivation was also making this a very public statement. They wanted people to know who they were and why they did it.
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No. It was a one way mission. Don't think they expected to get away. A major motivation was also making this a very public statement. They wanted people to know who they were and why they did it.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but does anyone find it odd that these guys executed this with what has been described as military efficiency then left a national ID card in the back seat of their abandoned vehicle?
No one of the brothers went to Syria at one point and probably received training. Trust me when I say that its not that hard to teach small unit tactics and supporting techniques. Some of the people that I taught could be described as not the smartest pencils in the drawer and they got it.
Also whats the old saying "when you commit a murder you make at least 25 mistakes"
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I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but does anyone find it odd that these guys executed this with what has been described as military efficiency then left a national ID card in the back seat of their abandoned vehicle?
In reality it wasn't in the least bit militarily efficient, they went to the wrong address, then had to drive around a bit to find Hebdos office.
After the attack they hadn't a clue what to do, they took off from the office, so weren't planning on martyrdom but had no where to go so end up robbing a gas station then sleeping in a wood overnight.
They knew how to fire a gun but beyond that it was completely amateur, no recon, no exit plan, this was just two Charlie's with guns who's plan consisted of driving to the google map destination and shooting people.
This video is a bit old now, came shortly after Anders Brievik, when Fox and conservatives where all upset at how people would DARE suggest he was a Christian or that his religion had anything to do with this horrific crime.
In Iceland our right wingers have really been having a go with Islam and fear of it, when we mention Brievik they respond like Fox news does. So this video is great to show them
Jon Stewart as usual nails it:
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A few years ago, an extremist in Pakistan fought to have me sentenced to death because Facebook refused to ban content about Mohammed that offended him.
We stood up for this because different voices -- even if they're sometimes offensive -- can make the world a better and more interesting place.
Facebook has always been a place where people across the world share their views and ideas. We follow the laws in each country, but we never let one country or group of people dictate what people can share across the world.
Yet as I reflect on yesterday's attack and my own experience with extremism, this is what we all need to reject -- a group of extremists trying to silence the voices and opinions of everyone else around the world.
I won't let that happen on Facebook. I'm committed to building a service where you can speak freely without fear of violence.
My thoughts are with the victims, their families, the people of France and the people all over the world who choose to share their views and ideas, even when that takes courage. #JeSuisCharlie
In a victory for Islamic terrorism, publishers at Charlie Hebdo declare they will no longer draw the Prophet Muhammad.
In a recent interview the editor of Charlie Hebdo, Laurent Sourisseau, told the German magazine Stern that the publication will no longer publish cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad.
The disappointing statement comes six months after a deadly attack on the magazine’s offices.
Last January Islamic terrorists stormed the Paris offices of Charlie Hebdo, a weekly satirical magazine known for lampooning all religions, including Islam and the Prophet Muhammad, killing 12 people.
I'm guessing they were asked directly, but I would rather they didn't make any actual statement on this. By stating outright that they won't draw any more such cartoons, they've only guaranteed that others will die when terrorists believe they can force people into their line of thinking via violence. If they didn't want to draw Muhammad anymore, it should have just been done quietly.
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They'd already won. How many news outlets in this country or the US published the Danish cartoons?
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So you're saying that the pen isn't mightier then the sword?
The sword maybe. The AK47? No probably not.
In all seriousness, I do believe the pen is mightier. In this case, it was the pens of those around the world who supported Hebdo after the initial killings, but I agree with the above that this public statement pretty well nullifies any positive that could have came from the tragedy, which is unfortunate. As said above, they know it'll work now, and they'll keep doing it as long as we let them.
That said, the pen wrote the books these nutcases are following, so it's mightier regardless.
News outlets around the world could have shown the cartoons as as a sign of solidarity. Solidarity against bullies trying to scare them from exercising a natural born right. A freedom that we are all afforded. Now, all they've done is given credence to the notion that violence will curb the reach of a basic human right. It's disheartening, and cowardly.
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If there was a chance I could get shot at work tomorrow, I can say with certainty there'd be a 0% chance I would ever go back into that job. Call me a coward, I'll call myself alive. And being alive, I mean, I'll take it. It's pretty sweet.
It's easy to call others cowards when it's not your ass on the front line. For those who feel strongly about this, feel free to draw some cartoons yourself and publish/tweet them out.
I do agree that they shouldn't have made a statement about this though...making it an issue again can't help whatsoever.
