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Old 01-14-2015, 10:24 AM   #1
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Disgusting. I have never seen one of "my" teams outright quit like this team has.

I didn't think they were a contender this season, but they should not be this bad, either. Except they totally are.

I hate the idea of firing the coach as a "wake up call", and I don't put a lot of stock in the "he lost the room" argument. But, at this point, something must change. And it gets harder and harder to argue against the idea that they're still willing to play hard for him.

Yeo has received the dreaded vote of confidence from Fletcher. He has had two blow-ups in practice and the team keeps sliding.

I don't pin the goaltending on Yeo, by the way. And it has been atrocious.

I think the "strip Koivu of the C and give it to Parise" thing is absurd on its face, and won't make a bit of difference either way.

Fletcher has said Yeo is absolutely safe, but then has also said he can't or doesn't want to make the deals that are out there. You can't have it both ways.

Now, at this point I would prefer they roll with what they have. I would be totally fine to wake up on draft day and find the Wild in the top 5 - or better.

I'm usually pretty sensitive to entitlement, but really, as a Wild fan I deserve better than this. As boring as some of those Lemaire teams were, they never quit.

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Old 01-14-2015, 10:35 AM   #2
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Grats to Perron for getting out of Edmonton and lighting up Minny yesterday though :3
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Old 01-14-2015, 10:36 AM   #3
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Well, I'll start off by saying that it has been established that only Calgary is good so your assertion that Minnesota is No Good is superficially correct.

However, there are some good things about Minnesota, ergo they are not technically 'No' Good.

I dont know what those good things are, but I'm positive they exist. A fine laundromat, a decent craft beer or some local delicacy perhaps?

Now, Minnesota's goaltending...that is No Good.

"No Good" is a Trademark of the Edmonton City Council, the City of Edmonton, the Edmonton Oilers and their Management. Its their new slogan, they're putting it on the sign.
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I'm so glad that the Wild and Flames are not in the same division anymore.
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In order for the Flames to make the playoffs, some teams from the West need to falter. Sorry Wild. We need you to die off.
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The pieces are there:
-good forward group with some skill
-really good defense on the top end, not familiar with the bottom end
-goalies at least with a history of being good

As for goaltending, I've watched a few wild games and I don't know what the answer is. I always hesitate to believe that a goalie suddenly sucks. Even when kipper had bad years, there were structural issues leading to higher quality chances.

I guess what I'm saying is: something is wrong. They have the ingredients to be a playoff team, minus goaltending and confidence. Both of those can be due to structural (either personnel or system) or team dysfunction. Changing coaches is the likeliest to help there IMO
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Think we've passed the line on these threads. Time to make the remaining threads for 29 total no good threads? Yes or no?
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Have to admit, I laughed when I saw you created the thread, nmhen.

But yeah, it is surprising and sad to see what has happened to the Wild. Yeo needs to be canned. Not because he is a bad coach, but because if you pull the angry toddler card in practice and get no response, you're done. You've lost the room.

I hope their pride kicks in by the end of the season though. I plan to catch the April 6 game against Winnipeg on the way home from Montreal/Ottawa. Would hate to see a listless team get stomped.
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I'm so glad that the Wild and Flames are not in the same division anymore.
I'm not.

We'd be two points out of first in the Northwest!
1. Vancouver 23-15-3 49pts
2. Calgary 22-18-3 47pts
3. Colorado 18-17-9 45pts
4. Minnesota 18-19-5 41pts
5. Edmonton 10-25-9 29pts
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These threads need to stop.
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These threads need to stop.
People can click on them, or they can not. If they are interesting, they will stay on the first page.
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"Minnesota is no friken good!!11!"
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Think we've passed the line on these threads. Time to make the remaining threads for 29 total no good threads? Yes or no?
"No Good" sub forum + a thread for each of the 29 teams
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People can click on them, or they can not. If they are interesting, they will stay on the first page.
I agree, I just think Edmonton and Vancouver were enough since they are our rivals. Now we are bringing out Winnipeg and Minnesota? Next is St. Louis.
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Is it possible that they suffer from a bit of a country club atmosphere (hate the term, but can't think of a more apt description)? They have signed several big names to long big-money contracts (Parise, Suter, Vanek, Pominville) after all and at least a couple of those probably just wanted to live in Minnesota more than anything else (I know that Vanek did, for example). Actually love a lot of their young talent and thought that team would be great this year. Maybe I'm totally wrong about the vets, but it's certainly possible.
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People can click on them, or they can not. If they are interesting, they will stay on the first page.
That's actually not true really, because people often bump them with excuses just to post "NO GOOD" like it's still hilarious. It's especially bad in the Edmonton one, where there is a ton of legitimate things to laugh about them regarding ... yet still the stupid bumps.

As far as the Wild, they're pretty much another example why you can't build your team around two "payday" guys like they did. Suter is likely worth that money in today's market. Parise is absolutely not imo. Plus the big UFA contract rarely works out in favour of the team.
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Have to admit, I laughed when I saw you created the thread, nmhen.

But yeah, it is surprising and sad to see what has happened to the Wild. Yeo needs to be canned. Not because he is a bad coach, but because if you pull the angry toddler card in practice and get no response, you're done. You've lost the room.

I hope their pride kicks in by the end of the season though. I plan to catch the April 6 game against Winnipeg on the way home from Montreal/Ottawa. Would hate to see a listless team get stomped.
I think Yeo might need to take the fall for this, but I agree that it's not because he's a bad coach. It just stopped working (not that it ever worked that well) for him with this team and they're not going to overhaul the roster.
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I don't have a problem with the thread, having "no good" in the title can be redundant to some though. Maybe title it Minnesota discussion thread to appese them?

A no good sub-forum would be funny.
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Is it possible that they suffer from a bit of a country club atmosphere (hate the term, but can't think of a more apt description)? They have signed several big names to long big-money contracts (Parise, Suter, Vanek, Pominville) after all and at least a couple of those probably just wanted to live in Minnesota more than anything else (I know that Vanek did, for example). Actually love a lot of their young talent and thought that team would be great this year. Maybe I'm totally wrong about the vets, but it's certainly possible.
Sounds like its just a real bad mix of a lot of stuff going on.... Parise's dad, Suter's (wasn't his dad, was it?) passing away isn't a "country club" thing...... as for Vanek, ya that one looks like a F-up.
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Think we've passed the line on these threads. Time to make the remaining threads for 29 total no good threads? Yes or no?
Normally I would agree, and thought that when I first saw the thread. But when I saw who created the thread, I laughed, gave it a pass, and thanked it profusely.
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