Exactly. It's not good that the officer needed to use his sidearm to defend his life and that of the public. The only person to blame in this situation is the criminal who chose to force the police to employ deadly force by pulling a gun on them.
The people protesting need to get it through their heads that it's not a race issue, but an issue of someone pulling a gun on a cop. That will get you shot 10/10 times, not matter if you're white or black. They also need to realize that assaulting police officers and looting a store are not the best way to protest.
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Yeah, this one doesn't sound anywhere near as bad as some of the previous incidents. The problem is that people have completely lost faith in the system.
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The culture is so bad this will just keep happening. Until there's a cultural change and thug life is frowned upon by the culture it will just keep reoccurring. If you're a cop you resent the thugs that glorify criminal behavior and a thug hates cops. Recipe for violence right there.
We aren't seeing much about black family men with full time jobs dressed in respectable attire being shot.
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Really, that's happening? If you have a legitimate gripe with the police the most logical thing would be to get involved with their curriculum and their hiring policy. That's probably the only rational way to make a real change.
Well the NYPD is a pretty racist police force, the whole stop & frisk program was about as bad as it gets without them strapping white hoods on. I'm glad the protestors aren't backing down, though trying to incite violence needs to stop. The US law enforcement culture is a complete mess and the spotlight needs to remain on it for any hope of change to pass
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Really, that's happening? If you have a legitimate gripe with the police the most logical thing would be to get involved with their curriculum and their hiring policy. That's probably the only rational way to make a real change.
Oh for sure. When dealing with a discriminatory institution, the best thing to do is to walk up to the door and demand (as a member of the group being discriminated against) to have a say in who gets hired and what they teach.
The doors will swing wide open. As long as you are wearing respectable attire, of course.
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The culture is so bad this will just keep happening. Until there's a cultural change and thug life is frowned upon by the culture it will just keep reoccurring. If you're a cop you resent the thugs that glorify criminal behavior and a thug hates cops. Recipe for violence right there.
We aren't seeing much about black family men with full time jobs dressed in respectable attire being shot.
Thug is the new n word.
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Oh for sure. When dealing with a discriminatory institution, the best thing to do is to walk up to the door and demand (as a member of the group being discriminated against) to have a say in who gets hired and what they teach.
The doors will swing wide open. As long as you are wearing respectable attire, of course.
Yeah that's what I said. Who crapped in your breakfast?
What's the solution then? Do we start telling cops that they can't respond to a lethal threat with deadly force? Only let them use tasers and OC?
Well it seems that the protestors want the police out of the community, so the cops should stay out of the community... I can't imagine how that would go.
The worst part in all of this, well in the NYPD anyways, is the mayor not backing the poilce department, yet he requires 24 hr police protection. The on going cinflict between the protestors, the NYPD, and the Mayors office will not end well I'm affraid.
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Thug is the new n word.
Larf.
It has been used, literally, for hundreds of years to describe robbers and murderers among other things. Initially it was an Indian word and was used throughout the 30's and 40's against those gangsters both in and out of organized crime.
If someone has decided to be offended by it because it describes them...too freaking bad...they have likely earned the moniker.
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Last night, Baltimore's WBFF aired a video of protesters chanting "kill a cop"– evidence, it claimed, of murderously violent rhetoric on the part of anti-brutality protesters in Washington, D.C. The only problem? The protesters weren't chanting "kill a cop" at all, and there's video evidence to prove it.
The current national pastime appears to be constructing elaborate ways of laying responsibility for recent police shootings at the feet of anti-police-brutality protesters. This, of course, is bull####. Faced with the daunting task of shifting blame for broad and escalating distrust of police away from the murderous #######s themselves and onto mostly non-violent activists, our insanely cynical news media has been forced to dig deep into their bag of tricks.
The rhetorical line has it that the all-too-recent lack of unequivocal support for police actions up to and including the murder of unarmed civilians in broad daylight has put rank-and-file cops at grave risk. Well you can just imagine how much more vulnerable they are when reckless cop-hating rioters take to the streets and actively call for the murder of police! Why, just listen to these hate-mongers!
What you are hearing there is a protester in Washington, D.C. shout the following chant:
We can't stop!
We won't stop!
'til killer cops are in cell blocks!
Not a particularly provocative chant, all things considered: protesters are announcing their intention to continue organizing until murderous police officers are put in jail. Fair enough!
That is, until Baltimore's local FOX affiliate got their hands on this video. Here's their interpretation of it:
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This week Baltimore's corrupt, inept, and ineffectual police department issued a statement in which they all but explicitly promised retaliatory violence for what they've characterized as an "atmosphere of unnecessary hostility" created by politicians and pundits, but of course this line crumbles at the slightest scrutiny: police are killing civilians with impunity, and the media is doing the dirty work of casting those outraged about these killings as the true villains. If there's an atmosphere of unnecessary hostility, it is the direct handiwork of police and their apologists.
Look at the end of the day we know that there are brutal cops out there and the system has to fix that.
But these kind of things only serve to inflame idiots.
Thats the last thing this movement needs.
It's definitely haunting to see and hear a mob walk through a major American city chanting for dead cops, and yes it will escalate things and no it isn't an ideal way to say you've had enough.
But what we're witnessing in the States is so much more complicated than (I think) some Canadian posters give credit for when they try to explain this issue away and put it on the people, rather than the State.
I predict in the coming years/decades we're going to see more and more uprisings linked to these types of events.
You have lower class, black people and you have police given some of the highest authority in the land. Neither seem willing to make major changes to how they view/treat each other, but which group has more responsibility to initiate that change?
Police have recovered the gun and have video evidence, yet hundreds of people showed up and injured two officers.
What a ####ing joke.
Because the cop is still in the wrong here, he should've known that the man is a stand up person of the community and was about to go teach poor kids in Brazil and was simply turning a gun he found in to the cop....
Well the NYPD is a pretty racist police force, the whole stop & frisk program was about as bad as it gets without them strapping white hoods on. I'm glad the protestors aren't backing down, though trying to incite violence needs to stop. The US law enforcement culture is a complete mess and the spotlight needs to remain on it for any hope of change to pass
It was more like strapping a swastika on their arm and rounding up the jews (black people) asking for their papers and patting them down for no reason other than being black.
Blatant violation of their 4th amendment rights and it's comical that people were okay with that.
