[News] Flames sign Head Coach Bob Hartley to multi-year contract extension

[Flames89]

Originally Posted by DOOM

Nope, it was prior to that.

There was no need to rush and get this done.

You are wrong. They both said at the start of the season that they wouldn't talk to the media about it, as they didn't want it to become "a thing".
They never said they wouldn't talk to each other. In fact, it was insinuated that they would talk about it, but it was none of our business until it was done. Or not done.

[bob-loblaw]

I'm glad that Hartley's been extended. It seems the players like playing for him (e.g. 400th win and fireman's hat), and he's been great with teaching the young kids. You look at him and the staff on the bench during the game - always communicating with them after they get back from a shift.

He seems like he's pretty fair to everyone especially with the 'Always Earned, Never Given' philosophy. We all thought he'd abandon that and he has been pretty true to it.

I'm glad Trevliving realized he has a good coach too. It would be easy for a lot of GM's to pull a MacTavish and get rid of the incumbent as soon as they learn how to use Skype. Also kudos to Burke for telling Trevliving that if he was hired he had to give Bob a chance.

Plus, I'm sure Brad was probably tired of getting tons of spam e-mail from Dallas Eakins over the past couple days begging him for a chance so that sped up the process.

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Treliving on 960 right now. Will edit this post with what he says

-It was re-sign Hartley, or light himself on fire and run downtown to distract fans from the losing streak

This is a great line.

[FlamesAddiction]

I am happy with this. The results so far have been close to, or slightly better than what we could have expected given the rebuild and the roster upheaval. As others have mentioned, it is the culture and work ethic that stands out. I don't think that it is fair to use win/losses to define his tenure to date. Eventually that will be the measuring stick, but not now. Right now, it is about developing players and good professionals and Hartley seems to be doing well.

Mainly though, I think that lame duck coaches are just not their best and the longer the season was to go on without security, the more coaches tend to make decisions for job security purposes instead of ones that might have long term benefits. It's only natural.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by DOOM

Im not saying he's the "wrong guy" to have back there, he has obviously done some good things.

With him as a head coach we have finished 25th and 27th in the NHL. The 27th place finish was the worst in Flames history.

Some people act that he has done an amazing job and that he can do no wrong. Every time I disagree with one of his decisions I get jumped on by his adoring fan club.

[The Yen Man]

Doom is just playing his role as the porcupine in a balloon party. That's his schtick. No need to fall for it and get uneccessarily riled up by it IMO.

[DOOM]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

Doom is just playing his role as the porcupine in a balloon party. That's his schtick. No need to fall for it and get uneccessarily riled up by it IMO.

If you finish 25th and 27th out of 30 at your job you shouldn't be rewarded.

[tvp2003]

Originally Posted by bob-loblaw

I'm glad that Hartley's been extended. It seems the players like playing for him (e.g. 400th win and fireman's hat)

Here's hoping #401 comes sooner rather than later

[JohnnySkittles]

Originally Posted by DOOM

If you finish 25th and 27th out of 30 at your job you shouldn't be rewarded.

So you were expecting what? Playoffs? Division titles? Take a look at the roster, the fact that we were in the tops in the NHL for a quarter of the season is mind boggling. Not to mention the 180 degree turn on the culture, he's been nothing but great.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by DOOM

If you finish 25th and 27th out of 30 at your job you shouldn't be rewarded.

It's not about the Wins.....yet....his first season was with the old core in a lock out shortened season. Team didn't perform well enough and triggered the "rebuild". Since that began, it's been about instilling an attitude within the players. The "Culture". Look, no one is happy with loses piling up. But this is stage 1 or 2 of development. The bad record is secondary (which by the way, if you have not noticed is not bad at all) to everything that's going on right now.

But your argument is based upon a weak foundation fixated on the results in the standings. It's an extremely short sighted POV aimed squarely at "what have you done for me lately?". Which again if you haven't noticed is entertaining hockey and winning games with guts an heart. I can live with that even if you cannot.

The foundation to win needs to be set and Bob is being rewarded for that.
Along with good chemistry from the top of management chain all the way down to the players.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by DOOM

If you finish 25th and 27th out of 30 at your job you shouldn't be rewarded.

So all coaches are given equal tools to work with in that regards?

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by DOOM

If you finish 25th and 27th out of 30 at your job you shouldn't be rewarded.

When you significantly exceed expectations, you should. When you perform below expectations you shouldn't (see Dallas Eakins).

Hartley belongs in the former category. Recent previous Flames coaches belong in the latter (see Brent Sutter).

Fans haven't been this enthusiastic about the Flames in years. Why? Primarily because of Bob Hartley and his coaching.

Hartley has earned this new contract.... Always earned, never given.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by DOOM

Im not saying he's the "wrong guy" to have back there, he has obviously done some good things.

With him as a head coach we have finished 25th and 27th in the NHL. The 27th place finish was the worst in Flames history.

Some people act that he has done an amazing job and that he can do no wrong. Every time I disagree with one of his decisions I get jumped on by his adoring fan club.

You get jumped all over because your posts have been vapid, distracting and have only wasted everyone's time. Even in this thread.

Your shtick has been to act as if you knew what Brad Treliving was thinking, when the whole world knows you don't. And your entire sum argument after each loss was "see, this is why Treliving doesn't want to extend Hartley".

Except, you have never been able to explain why the Flames would be unhappy with Hartley. Even when asked directly in this thread, you have been unable to demonstrate even a basic understanding of the argument you are trying to make. You continue to speak in generalities because, frankly, your understanding of the game is so poor that you are unable to explain specifically what it is about Hartley you do not like, and because you are unable to bring examples.

So instead, you troll game threads and PGTs, cause minor disruptions, and as a result, made this entire thread about you.

People criticize you because you degrade the quality of this forum. Rather than whine about it, start meeting direct questions with direct answers.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by DOOM

Im not saying he's the "wrong guy" to have back there, he has obviously done some good things.

With him as a head coach we have finished 25th and 27th in the NHL. The 27th place finish was the worst in Flames history.

Some people act that he has done an amazing job and that he can do no wrong. Every time I disagree with one of his decisions I get jumped on by his adoring fan club.

Dude - stuff like this isn't helping your cause.
You can dislike Hartley and his decisions. Outline your reasons why. But don't do it countless times in countless threads.
Moreover it is this type of thing that turns people against you - where you exaggerate the viewpoints of others and label them with smug expressions like "adoring fan club".
Respect the opinion of others and they will respect yours.
You need to listen to some of this advice - we've seen stuff like this play out time and time again on this site. The ending is well known. Taking a constantly abrasive and combative tone will result in that same ending.

[GreenLantern2814]

Doom is the new Moon. He's only a consonant away.

[dash_pinched]

So, McGrattan to take the opening face-off Saturday night in Vancouver?

[Dion]

Good to see Hartley getting that extension. He works extremely well with the prospects and is an excellent motivator. Looking forward to the next 3 years.

[troutman]

Both dream about being a part of the next red mile

Yeah Baby!

[HelloHockeyFans]

Hartley's most important task coming in was to establish a culture on the team and he's done that without a doubt. No floaters and a group that appears to really play for each other. He's done a fantastic job.

Originally Posted by btimbit

Treliving on 960 right now. Will edit this post with what he says

-It was re-sign Hartley, or light himself on fire and run downtown to distract fans from the losing streak
-Gives Jay Feaster a lot of credit for bringing Bob in.
-Very deserving of the extension. Timing with the losing streak is a coincidence.
-Hartley checks all the boxes in what Treliving thinks a coach needs to be
-Believes the relationship between coach and GM needs to be strong. Feels that theirs is
-Believes continuity of coaching a very important. Teams need a consistent message.
-Wanted to make sure that it was clear who the coach is going to be moving forward. Thinks the players need to see that this is the guy
-Loves Bob's energy. Head Coach is a very hard job, long hours, Hartley always full of energy
-He's changed the mentality here. Lots of work behind the scenes that Hartley's done
-They talk numerous times a day
-Still just a "multi-year" deal. Won't talk about exact numbers yet

-No decision on Clouotier or Gelinas, or the rest of the coaching staff. Will worry about that later. But believes they've done terrific as well

-Talking more on the value of continuity especially in coaching. Obviously if they don't get the job done, that's it, but says there's a better chance of having success with one coach that having lots of starts and stops

Always felt that Feaster gets a rough ride on CP by the usual suspects, but fortunately not all. Nice to see the nod from Treliving to Feaster as it's been mentioned by a few here that it was a bad move initially, and then when the Flames saw success this year, that Feaster was really just lucky.

[#-3]

Happy the Flames have finally found a little bit of consistency in the role. I think the level of turn over in this position is one of the problems that has stopped allot of big budget, hockey market, teams from consistently competing in the cap era.

There have been other mistakes too, but hiring the flavour of the month coach every two years (or less) hasn't helped either I'm sure.