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Old 12-17-2014, 03:56 PM   #81
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My sources on the inside say the team was losing as a form of protest to Treliving in order to get Hartley signed. Just shows how tight this group is. Expect a big win next game.
Hahahaha thanks for the laugh.
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Old 12-17-2014, 03:58 PM   #82
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Nope, it was prior to that.

There was no need to Rush and get this done.
Prior to the linked article? You do realize the date of that article is Oct 7th. You know before this season started.
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Old 12-17-2014, 03:59 PM   #83
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This is awesome, glad the Flames got this done
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Old 12-17-2014, 04:00 PM   #84
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Why does Doom hate Hartley?
I don't hate Hartley, I just think he is vastly overrated as the Flames coach.
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Old 12-17-2014, 04:02 PM   #85
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Since Darryl left the bench the coaching carousel was a gear grinder for me. I mean, none of the previous ones really worked out for various reasons but I for one am glad that the Flames are sticking with one for longer than two years.

Hartley's done a remarkable job since taking over and is rightfully rewarded. The W's aren't there yet but the attitude and "Culture" are set. Now a little more work from the GM is needed.
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Old 12-17-2014, 04:03 PM   #86
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No, im not.

I'm a Flames fan.
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Old 12-17-2014, 04:03 PM   #87
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I don't hate Hartley, I just think he is vastly overrated as the Flames coach.
Not trying to egg you on here, but curious as to why you think that? And if he isn't the right guy who would you like to have behind the bench?
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I don't hate Hartley, I just think he is vastly overrated as the Flames coach.
Because...........
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Treliving on 960 right now. Will edit this post with what he says

-It was re-sign Hartley, or light himself on fire and run downtown to distract fans from the losing streak
-Gives Jay Feaster a lot of credit for bringing Bob in.
-Very deserving of the extension. Timing with the losing streak is a coincidence.
-Hartley checks all the boxes in what Treliving thinks a coach needs to be
-Believes the relationship between coach and GM needs to be strong. Feels that theirs is
-Believes continuity if coaching a very important. Teams needs a consistent message.
-Wanted to make sure that it was clear who the coach is going to be moving forward. Thinks the players need to see that this is the guy
-Loves Bob's energy. Head Coach is a very hard job, long hours, Hartley always full of energy
I believe in this the most. Glad he made mention of it.
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Old 12-17-2014, 04:07 PM   #90
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awesome news, I'm extremely happy that this got done. I was very skeptical when the Flames hired Hartley back then but he sure has won me over. I firmly believe he's the best fit for the Flames and their current situation.
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Treliving on 960 right now. Will edit this post with what he says

-It was re-sign Hartley, or light himself on fire and run downtown to distract fans from the losing streak
-Gives Jay Feaster a lot of credit for bringing Bob in.
-Very deserving of the extension. Timing with the losing streak is a coincidence.
-Hartley checks all the boxes in what Treliving thinks a coach needs to be
-Believes the relationship between coach and GM needs to be strong. Feels that theirs is
-Believes continuity of coaching a very important. Teams need a consistent message.
-Wanted to make sure that it was clear who the coach is going to be moving forward. Thinks the players need to see that this is the guy
-Loves Bob's energy. Head Coach is a very hard job, long hours, Hartley always full of energy
-He's changed the mentality here. Lots of work behind the scenes that Hartley's done
-They talk numerous times a day
Clearly a different philosophy than that of the Edmonton Oilers.
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Old 12-17-2014, 04:10 PM   #92
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Treliving on 960 right now. Will edit this post with what he says

-It was re-sign Hartley, or light himself on fire and run downtown to distract fans from the losing streak
-Gives Jay Feaster a lot of credit for bringing Bob in.
-Very deserving of the extension. Timing with the losing streak is a coincidence.
-Hartley checks all the boxes in what Treliving thinks a coach needs to be
-Believes the relationship between coach and GM needs to be strong. Feels that theirs is
-Believes continuity of coaching a very important. Teams need a consistent message.
-Wanted to make sure that it was clear who the coach is going to be moving forward. Thinks the players need to see that this is the guy
-Loves Bob's energy. Head Coach is a very hard job, long hours, Hartley always full of energy
-He's changed the mentality here. Lots of work behind the scenes that Hartley's done
-They talk numerous times a day

-No decision on Clouotier or Gelinas, or the rest of the coaching staff. Will worry about that later. But believes they've done terrific as well

-Talking more on the value of continuity especially in coaching. Obviously if they don't get the job done, that's it, but says there's a better chance of having success with one coach that having lots of starts and stops
That's all for Brad. Hartley up next
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Where's Sureloss to confirm this?
Sureloss = Hartley
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Not trying to egg you on here, but curious as to why you think that? And if he isn't the right guy who would you like to have behind the bench?
Im not saying he's the "wrong guy" to have back there, he has obviously done some good things.

With him as a head coach we have finished 25th and 27th in the NHL. The 27th place finish was the worst in Flames history.

Some people act that he has done an amazing job and that he can do no wrong. Every time I disagree with one of his decisions I get jumped on by his adoring fan club.
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Why not state how many years this extension is for? Strange.
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I suggest Hartley fans not read Ryan Lambert's next article on the Flames.

Or his Twitter. Especially his Twitter.
Not reading Ryan Lambert is a good suggestion at any time.
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Here's Hartley

-Feels great. Y'know like, we have a chance to keep growing as an organization. That's what matters most.

-Team hit a skid. He's disappointed. Young guys learning to lose part of a rebuild. Will work through it
-The guys are hurt right now. Too much pride
-Missing solid 60 minute effort

Steinberg steers convo back to the extension

-Also believes in continuity.
-Felt like he had support from both Burke and Treliving right away. Felt like he connected with the new GM immediately and felt like he knew him for 10 years. Both dream about being a part of the next red mile
-It's clear where we want to go. Feels there's that commitment from everyone in the organization all the way up to King and the owners
-Not just a hockey team, loves being a part of this community

-Was never worried about going through the year with no extension. Both Treliving and Bob wanted to work together for a while and just worry about doing the job before moving onto this. Has loved every second of working with Treliving

*Tunein app crashed, not sure what I missed. Sorry guys

-Talking about working with 3 different gm's since being here. All 3 unbelievable human beings who have made his job easy

-The day Hartley comes to the rink with any intention other than winning is the day he goes fishing instead.

Sorry guys got an important work call and missed the rest.

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Im not saying he's the "wrong guy" to have back there, he has obviously done some good things.

With him as a head coach we have finished 25th and 27th in the NHL. The 27th place finish was the worst in Flames history.

Some people act that he has done an amazing job and that he can do no wrong. Every time I disagree with one of his decisions I get jumped on by his adoring fan club.
What are your expectations in those seasons. Those are easy things to say, you get jumped on likely because you don't provide what you think "good" should have looked like in each of those seasons, and back up why you think the team should have done better.

With out that, people are going to jump down your throat because those statistics are irrelevant. Where should the Flames have finished in your opinion, and why, in the first season of a rebuild the year after trading away their veteran core, arguably best players and for the first time embraced a rebuild.

With out any of that context, your analysis is terribly incomplete and you should get jumped on for the opinion.
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Not a fan of the timing.

Treliving said that he wouldn't talk contract with Hartley during the year...
Neither am I. I think we should have waited until Hartley's contract had expired.... and then low-ball him with an offer.

Its obvious the guy doesn't know what he's doing and he'd probably get zero offers from other teams. We coulda got him for cheap dollars when he started feeling desperate.
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