Calgary's Worst Driver

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Igster

That parking lot could have been twice as small and it still wouldn't be an issue doing what she was trying to do. That was simply bad driving and not knowing your vehicle. She should not have a license.

Well I knew this kind of response was coming and tried to head it off! I just had a different impression from the surveillance camera where it looks like she has all the room in the world, but the street level shot with vehicles parked in behind is much tighter than that.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Slava

Well I knew this kind of response was coming and tried to head it off! I just had a different impression from the surveillance camera where it looks like she has all the room in the world, but the street level shot with vehicles parked in behind is much tighter than that.

And I agree, it is a tight parking lot, but she could have backed up and turned so her tailgate went into the space in front of the red car and pulled forward and gone to the left of the screen to the other exit.

Easy. And it would have taken infinitely less time than her chosen course of action.

[Igster]

Originally Posted by Slava

Well I knew this kind of response was coming and tried to head it off! I just had a different impression from the surveillance camera where it looks like she has all the room in the world, but the street level shot with vehicles parked in behind is much tighter than that.

Well, the response came because that was pretty much the silliest display of driving I think I have ever seen. If you have no idea how to turn your tires to maneuver where you want to go and no idea how big your vehicle is and no idea what is in your rear view mirror, then, well, you shouldn't be driving at all.

[Firebot]

The rear view cameras can get pretty dirty and can get poor visibility (her car is quite dirty in the back). In the video she never once looked behind her, and does not look to have ever used her mirrors. Note how at around 1:10 she backs up and looks to her left window almost in shock to find a car there. She spend the next 40 seconds slowly making the highest point right turn ever back and forth, never once looking back to see that the car has since moved away, yet still measuring as if the car was still there. Her camera was most likely obstructed, and she never learned how to back up properly. When thinking of her driving as being fully dependant on an obstructed rear view camera, her behaviour makes perfect sense. She was in effect backing up blind, with her low skillset.

This is what happens when people get used to rear view cameras and never bother learning basic skills, with no ability to gauge distances and the size of her car. Even though I have a rear view camera and it does help (also have a BMW X3), I never use it for backing up. When dirty, it's not useable.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Firebot

This is what happens when people get used to rear view cameras and never bother learning basic skills, with no ability to gauge distances and the size of her car. Even though I have a rear view camera and it does help (also have a BMW X3), I never use it for backing up. When dirty, it's not useable.

On principle I agree with you. However, if you think people are starting to rely too much on car technology for basic skills, wait until you see what cars will be like a decade from now. It will only continue to be a growing trend.

[t0rrent98]

I cringe every time I see a middle aged person driving a fancy/Expensive car like the one in the video, I don't know why but I just do.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Rathji

The posts calling for mandatory retesting made me remember that my Grandma didn't have to take a driver's road test until she was over 65. When she got her license, it was just walk in and fill out paperwork kind of thing.


I do understand how that wasn't the most ideal situation to back out of, with the location of cars involved, but this person clearly has severe driving issues.

When motorcycle licenses first came out, I was mailed one because I had a registered motorcycle.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Still not enough. She didn't get a failure to notify. All she got was an unsafe backing up ticket. $115. 2 demerits. That's a joke.

She didn't get a failure to notify because they're saying she did notify, or did honestly respond to the report, or whatever. I still think your beef is with the wrong people.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Acey

She didn't get a failure to notify because they're saying she did notify, or did honestly respond to the report, or whatever. I still think your beef is with the wrong people.

She didn't get one because she claimed she didn't know she hit it, therefore had no intent of doing a hit and run.

My 'beef' is simply I find it ridiculous that someone that clearly should not be operating a vehicle with their current skills is let off the hook with a fine that's less than going 120km/hr on Deerfoot Tr.

Add in the fact that she hit something... How is this okay? Yeah she'll have to pay for the damage but in my opinion the punishment is not severe enough.

Doesn't need to be a huge fine, and hoping for something like license suspension pending re-testing is probably a pipe dream. I just can't believe there's no law regarding someone that clearly can't safely operate a vehicle.

[ExiledFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by btimbit

She didn't get one because she claimed she didn't know she hit it, therefore had no intent of doing a hit and run.

My 'beef' is simply I find it ridiculous that someone that clearly should not be operating a vehicle with their current skills is let off the hook with a fine that's less than going 120km/hr on Deerfoot Tr.

Add in the fact that she hit something... How is this okay? Yeah she'll have to pay for the damage but in my opinion the punishment is not severe enough.

Doesn't need to be a huge fine, and hoping for something like license suspension pending re-testing is probably a pipe dream. I just can't believe there's no law regarding someone that clearly can't safely operate a vehicle.

Driving a motor vehicle is the most dangerous thing many people will do in their lives. It is frightening that this lady is freely driving around in a 5000 lb SUV capable of going very fast and she lacks basic driving and spatial awareness skills.

Driving on public roads is a privilege and this lady is certainly not competent enough to be on public roads.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Still not enough. She didn't get a failure to notify. All she got was an unsafe backing up ticket. $115. 2 demerits. That's a joke.

Same as if you were going a bit faster than the speed limit and weren't remotely likely to hit anything. Now that's a joke.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by SebC

Same is if you were going a bit faster than the speed limit and weren't remotely likely to hit anything. Now that's a joke.

Exactly. Like I said a few pages ago, I've gotten tickets that were much more than this. And I've never hit anyone

[Flamesoholic]

http://metronews.ca/news/calgary/123...-worst-driver/

In this article it says the driver of the car she hit caught up to her a few blocks down the road inspecting her vehicle.

“He hopped into his car and went chasing after her,” she said. “He apparently found her a little ways later inspecting her own car.”

So if that is to be believed then she knew she hit something. That $115 fine is a joke.

[GGG]

^^

I was just going to post the metro article. If this is true she should get charged with leaving the scene.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by GGG

^^

I was just going to post the metro article. If this is true she should get charged with leaving the scene.

Agreed. $5xx fine and 7 demerits. That'd be a lot more reasonable

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Flamesoholic

http://metronews.ca/news/calgary/123...-worst-driver/

In this article it says the driver of the car she hit caught up to her a few blocks down the road inspecting her vehicle.

“He hopped into his car and went chasing after her,” she said. “He apparently found her a little ways later inspecting her own car.”

So if that is to be believed then she knew she hit something. That $115 fine is a joke.

Well she's obviously not oblivious as she knew enough not to get out after she hit the car. She obviously knew she hit the other car and pretended not to realize it and a few blocks down the road got out to check to see if she had damage. Then again this may not be the first time she's hit someone and she knows the routine. Looks like there may be an investigation after all to see how a driver like this could have slipped through the cracks;

@CstShaw: To all who've asked, a driver skills & abilities review is now underway by investigators at @ServiceAlberta and @AlbertaTransComm. #yyc

BTW it's highly unlikely she had a back up camera because they are packaged with rear sensors in those vehicles. And hers doesn't look to have parking sensors.

[Stealth22]

This has been debated quite a bit on another Calgary-based forum, but not having read every post, I'm assuming a lot of it is the same.

Anyway, sorry if this is already posted, but I had written to the CPS asking why the driver wouldn't be charged with hit and run in a case like this. They said because in this case, the driver had not actually left the scene. They left the parking lot, but were parked a short distance away, and they were at the scene when the police arrived.

A coworker who is retired CPS told me they have to prove that the driver intentionally drove off, and the law in the TSA says that the driver must remain on scene, or if they have left, immediately return, which she did. So there was no real grounds to lay the hit and run charge, and had the officer done so, it would never hold up in court.

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

BTW it's highly unlikely she had a back up camera because they are packaged with rear sensors in those vehicles. And hers doesn't look to have parking sensors.

+1...in fact, the BMW X3 does not come standard with either of those options, believe it or not. For the 2015 model year, they are in the "first" option package that you would get; the first "step up" from base, so to speak. It does seem odd that someone would buy a brand new base model BMW with no options, especially with all the O&G money in this town. But, to each their own.

The X3 is not a difficult vehicle to drive, though. Backup cameras and sensors are not 'needed' when reversing. They help, but if someone is incapable of driving without them, they should really question why they are driving at all.

[squiggs96]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Agreed. $5xx fine and 7 demerits. That'd be a lot more reasonable

Leaving the scene of an accident carries similar penalties as a DUI. It's a loss of licence for 1-2 years and a criminal record. You must take a driver's test to get back your licence, a $400-2000 fine and 7 demerits. If you don't want a criminal record, you can ask for a criminal record suspension (formerly a pardon) after five years.

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by Stealth22

A coworker who is retired CPS told me they have to prove that the driver intentionally drove off, and the law in the TSA says that the driver must remain on scene, or if they have left, immediately return, which she did. So there was no real grounds to lay the hit and run charge, and had the officer done so, it would never hold up in court.

Not to mention, maybe the officer just wanted to cut the driver a bit of a break. I would imagine that CPS sees a ton of sh***y driving every day, and if they could take away people's licenses like some of the folks seem to want, I doubt that we'd have the traffic congestion issues we do.

It looked like she bumped the other car. Probably not much damage. The other driver may have had a hand in it, too. If he wasn't too cheesed off, got her info and knows she's getting the insurance ding for it...some folks are pretty chill, and don't want someone's head to roll everytime life deals them a bit of bad luck.

[ChickenPho]

lol I still get a good laugh outta this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEWFBbwfwn8