Long time Avs beat writer Adrian Dater fired

[nik-]

Originally Posted by drury18

hey rubecube, i'm going to make this quick and easy for you.

I am a female (aeneas, locke or peanut can confirm). I worked in media for the flames and hitmen (aeneas also can confirm).

Her avatar is unprofessional. You are spewing bs about standards and have no clue what you are talking about. Please stop because as a women, your comments are more offensive then the situation at hand.

asl?

[Antithesis]

You're blaming her for his actions. Listen, I'm not saying anything about her photo being professional or unprofessional. The fact is, she should be able to have whatever she'd like as her profile photo and not have people act like that toward her.

[driveway]

The woman in question is not a professional reporter, she's a student at SAIT and, according to her Facebook profile, she works at Mark's Work Wearhouse.

She's a private citizen who tweets about hockey.

Not that that changes anything at all about Dater's creepy actions and her right to not be harassed regardless of how she chooses to present herself.

[shogged]

I kinda wanna ask her for nudes as well.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Or maybe instead of blaming her, blame the culture and attitudes like yours that basically excuses poor behaviour on the part of men depending on how a woman is dressed. What you're saying is akin to the old "what was she wearing" accusation when a woman is sexually assaulted.

Haha, yup. Same thing as sexual assault. You have gone full rube cube on this one.

[SportsJunky]

Is she trolling all of us?

[Drury18]

Originally Posted by Antithesis

You're blaming her for his actions. Listen, I'm not saying anything about her photo being professional or unprofessional. The fact is, she should be able to have whatever she'd like as her profile photo and not have people act like that toward her.

Really?

So if I go into work as an Executive Professional in Batman pajama's should I be treated as a professional in my field as well?

What if I decide one day I want to show up in ripped jeans and a hoodie for a Board meeting? Is that professional and can I stand there demanding to be treated professionally like the others wearing proper business attire?

Your appearance, especially in media, is a huge part of the job. I'm not saying she should cover up, but she could have made better choices in her photo's and made herself come across as a professional, not a girl using her "assets" to gain attention.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by shogged

I kinda wanna ask her for nudes as well.

that's a ####ty maple leaf

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Drury18

Hey Rubecube, I'm going to make this quick and easy for you.

I am a female (Aeneas, Locke or Peanut can confirm). I worked in media for the Flames and Hitmen (Aeneas also can confirm).

Her avatar is unprofessional. You are spewing BS about standards and have no clue what you are talking about. Please stop because as a women, your comments are more offensive then the situation at hand.

I can appreciate your background in the field, but I'm not sure what exactly are offensive about my comments. The matter of her avatar being professional or unprofessional is really irrelevant to the conversation and I kind of regret even focusing on it. You don't get to harass people on social media just because you think their profile pic is hot.

[corporatejay]

Can anyone confirm if she's an actual reporter

[Antithesis]

Originally Posted by Drury18

Really?

So if I go into work as an Executive Professional in Batman pajama's should I be treated as a professional in my field as well?

What if I decide one day I want to show up in ripped jeans and a hoodie for a Board meeting? Is that professional and can I stand there demanding to be treated professionally like the others wearing proper business attire?

Your appearance, especially in media, is a huge part of the job. I'm not saying she should cover up, but she could have made better choices in her photo's and made herself come across as a professional, not a girl using her "assets" to gain attention.

I think we're agreeing on the general lack of professionalism in her photo; I'm not disagreeing there at all. I suppose I'm taking issue with the idea that this woman (whoever it is, and however poor her decision may have been here) is being blamed for someone else's poor behavior.

[driveway]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Can anyone confirm if she's an actual reporter

Already confirmed, she is not, she's a student at SAIT and works at Mark's Work Wearhouse.

https://www.facebook.com/MariaCamacho19?fref=ts

[Dion]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Or maybe instead of blaming her, blame the culture and attitudes like yours that basically excuses poor behaviour on the part of men depending on how a woman is dressed. What you're saying is akin to the old "what was she wearing" accusation when a woman is sexually assaulted.

Common sense says that her avatar was going to attract lewd comments. Weather I think it's provocative or not isn't the issue, it's the creeps who respond with the comments. You can be proactive and think about the possible situations you might have to deal with.

[rubecube]

nm

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Can anyone confirm if she's an actual reporter

Sounds like she's just a twitterer that likes hockey. Does she have a blog or something?

[Soliak]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Can anyone confirm if she's an actual reporter

She works in radio of sorts(maybe student radio?)

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Can anyone confirm if she's an actual reporter

as far as I can tell she isn't a professional reporter.

from her blog it sounds like she wants to be one (going to radio school):
http://themanhandles.blogspot.ca/201...1_archive.html

I've recently gotten the amazing chance to pursue my dreams. I decided to go to Radio school and chase the idea of having a voice in the sports community. Now, I always understood that it was a pretty tall task. It's a hard industry to get into and there ratio of men to women is not even close. However, I always believed in my skills, in my potential, in my work ethic and I knew that if I went to school I could be successful in the industry.

During the summer, just before classes started, I got engaged to my fantastic boyfriend and I honestly thought that my life couldn't possibly get any better. I wasn't expecting what was coming for me. When I started school I was in the perfect place in my life and everything changed. First of all, the moment people found out that I was engaged, everyone changed. Guys stopped talking to me as much, they weren't interested in my opinions or anything about me. It was odd, I really have been used to attention always, but hey it is what it is. Then things got worse. I was shut down of different projects because "women can't possibly love and know as much about sports as guys" or "advanced statistics aren't that important, I know hockey." After that conversation, I never got a chance. I never got to be part of the learning opportunity they all get to be a part of. I didn't get a chance to share what I know and love, because I have a vagina. Not just a vagina, but one that they can't have.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Antithesis

I think we're agreeing on the general lack of professionalism in her photo; I'm not disagreeing there at all. I suppose I'm taking issue with the idea that this woman (whoever it is, and however poor her decision may have been here) is being blamed for someone else's poor behavior.

It's not about blame, it's about thinking ahead and being proactive. You can't change the fact there are creeps in the world but you can do things to avoid them.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Dion

Common sense says that her avatar was going to attract lewd comments. Weather I think it's provocative or not isn't the issue, it's the creeps who respond with the comments. You can be proactive and think about the possible situations you might have to deal with.

Don't get on Twitter much, do you? Women get harassed constantly, regardless of what their profile pic is.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Don't get on Twitter much, do you? Women get harassed constantly, regardless of what their profile pic is.

I don't use twitter or facebook for that matter.