2014 NFL Season

[Pagal4321]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Am I crazy to say that if I were the GM of a team with a questionable QB situation, and RG3 could be had cheap, I would absolutely take a flyer on him? He's just two years removed from an excellent rookie season, was rushed back from an injury, had to deal with one coach who didn't like him and another that may not know what he's doing, not to mention the worst owner/fanbase/local media in sports, and he's already being written off as a failure? His supposed baggage doesn't sound that different than a number of other star players and seems like it's just a result of being put under a microscope by people desperate to find a reason to dislike him.

Well you would have to be okay with re-building his mechanics from scratch seeing as he...well...has no redeemable qualities other than his arm and athleticism, which has gotten him to the point he's at today.

Unsure how many teams are that desperate for a QB that would choose this route over drafting a QB in the 1st round of the draft.

[Senator Clay Davis]

^^Rams obviously. Too good not to happen. But no RGIII looks finished to me, he's only a true threat when he can run, and the biggest threat he is when he runs is to his health. He's just like Vick, he can have lots of great moments but he's too inconsistent and too likely to be hurt all the time to develop into a long term starter. Besides scout breakdowns of him after year 1 make it seem like he's way behind guys like Ryan Tannehill as a NFL QB. I wouldn't trade much of value for him, conditional 5th or 6th rounder maybe.

[GirlySports]

hmm

I doubt he'll ever be 2012 Griffin, but I'd take a shot on him. That 2012 team had no business being a playoff squad.

He needs a system that plays to his strengths. And of course he needs to be less afraid to get out and run, but maybe that's the system more than him. He doesn't seem to have any sort of grasp of what they are doing form the admittedly small sample size of me watching the Redskins Indigenous Persons.

[howard_the_duck]

I could see Philly taking a shot at him. Talk about a QB friendly offense, he's a talent upgrade on Foles and Sanchez.

[Senator Clay Davis]

You wanna know how RGIII is finished? The screen cap should sum it up. Didn't complete it of course...


Extremely harsh breakdown here

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...skins-offense/

[Sylvanfan]

Shanahan never should have let him play in week 17 and that playoff game against Seattle on that field. That pretty much ruined his career as he wasn't healed from the injury and likely looks like he injured it to the point where he'll never recover.

A team like Philly could try him as a project QB...but they moved on from a beat up and banged up Michael Vick in favor of more pocket style guys in Sanchez and Foles and have been better off for it.

I agree with Pagal, with RG3 unable to run like he used to, he isn't good enough at the traditional parts of being a QB to really be worth anything. He has a strong arm to be sure, but right now everything else looks to be pretty badly lacking, and can he learn to play that type of game when he was so used to playing a different style.

You look at the guys who are getting it done at the QB position today, and all of Manning, Brady, Luck, Roethlisberger, and Rogers are really good pocket passers. Guys like Rogers, Roethlisberger, and Luck are more athletic and can do things outside the pocket. As they say...the more things change, the more they stay the same.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Am I crazy to say that if I were the GM of a team with a questionable QB situation, and RG3 could be had cheap, I would absolutely take a flyer on him? He's just two years removed from an excellent rookie season, was rushed back from an injury, had to deal with one coach who didn't like him and another that may not know what he's doing, not to mention the worst owner/fanbase/local media in sports, and he's already being written off as a failure? His supposed baggage doesn't sound that different than a number of other star players and seems like it's just a result of being put under a microscope by people desperate to find a reason to dislike him.

So RG3's next stop will be in New York with the Jets.

[Pagal4321]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

So RG3's next stop will be in New York with the Jets.

Don't see it, why would a new GM/Coach combo go all in on RG3 when they can draft a Mariota/Hundley?!

If RG3 is traded, I highly doubt he would start for the team that acquires him. Funny thing is you'd just assume this is a deal the Raiders would make but with Carr, they actually have a competent QB after all these years.

[rubecube]

He'll get another chance to start somewhere. Too many teams with bad QBs for him not to. Tampa, St. Louis, Arizona, the Jets, Buffalo, Houston, Tennessee, and Oakland could all be looking for upgrades at QB next year. Sure some of those teams have mediocre QBs, but none of them has the upside that Griffin has.

[Senator Clay Davis]

He'll get another chance to start if he severely changes a lot of things (seriously read the link I posted...he'd be a bad backup at this point). I doubt he does, and I doubt he's willing to ride the bench for a few years. I got him out of the league in 2 more years.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Pagal4321

Don't see it, why would a new GM/Coach combo go all in on RG3 when they can draft a Mariota/Hundley?!

If RG3 is traded, I highly doubt he would start for the team that acquires him. Funny thing is you'd just assume this is a deal the Raiders would make but with Carr, they actually have a competent QB after all these years.

The Jets love QB controversy and signing useless QBs. Look at their deals for Bollinger, Favre, Vick, Tebow, Kevin O'Connell, David Garrard. Maybe John Idzik is different and isn't getting too excited.

[browna]

RG3 backed into the playoffs that years, thanks to Dallas choking it away the last couple weeks.
Worst thing that could've happened as it turns out. First, the expectations went through the roof for him and then got all the ensdorsements etc.

Then he got hurt in the playoff game. With the new endorsement contract from Adidas, and all the ads talking about "Ready for Week 1" that offseason, meant that he was all out on getting his knee rehabbed...meaning no time further learning the nuances of playing QB, practicing routes with his recievers etc etc.

His ego also seemed to take over, and with a 9 win (and 7 loss) season in his rookie year, started assuming he knew what he was doing, and could then be tuning out the Shanahan's, just like that.

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

I like how it is. Winning your division should be your main goal every year. Regardless of how crappy it is.

Agreed winning your division should be an automatic playoff berth (otherwise what's the point of even having divisions?). I'd like to see them go the NBA route however, where winning your division punches your ticket to the playoffs, but NOT an automatic home game. Seems fairer to me anyway.

Also, if the concern about unbalanced divisions is still there, perhaps it's time to go back to the old, larger divisions again. Given what the NHL's division size looks like now, I don't see anything wrong with 5-6 team divisions in the NFL. The only drawback would be that 2 divisions would have 6 teams while the rest have 5, but I don't think it's that big of an issue.

EDIT: Given how the NFL has the most teams out of all the major N.A. sports leagues, it seems rather silly to me that they only have 4 team divisions. With numbers like that, is it any wonder that seemingly every year there's a junk division - like the NFC South this year - and a logjam division like the AFC North right now? Expanding the divisions like the NHL did would help reduce this. It resulted in mercifully murdering the forever bad Southeast Division.

[Burke Salad]

So, who y'all taking today?

[troutman]

AFC North Playoff Odds:

http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NFL/AFC/AFCNorth.html

BAL 59.5
CIN 52.4
PIT 43.9
CLE 26.5

Cleveland can only afford one more loss.

[Bar-Down]

Originally Posted by Burke Salad

So, who y'all taking today?

Detroit, Dallas, Seattle.

Chicago sucks.

Dallas vs. Philly should be close but I take the home team.

49ers offense is pathetic, bottom of the league. Kaepernick and their offensive coordinator are brutal this year. Seattle may hold them to zero points today.

[Flabbibulin]

Anyone manage to pull off a fake sick day today?

Annoying that TSN has 5 bloody feeds and none of them have the games today... otherwise could stream at a decent quality.

[GirlySports]

same. Detroit, Dallas and Seattle

[Da_Chief]

Dallas Detroit SF

[Sainters7]

Why don't the Lions wear their turkey day retros anymore? Those were awesome.