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Old 11-02-2014, 04:40 PM   #121
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But guys, how is it possible that a Predator targeted one of our players' heads - we had Brian McGrattan dressed. But he made them pay later, right so this never happens again?

...so much for the need for enforcers argument.

As for me, I like that the Flames came back and beat the Predator on the scoreboard, and that Volchenkov is suspended 4 games. Should have been more if the NHL is serious about deterring this kind of garbage.
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Old 11-02-2014, 05:09 PM   #122
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But IMO intent is what separates something from a being a in game penalty/fineable offense and something that is suspension worthy.
I am sorry but I think that would be a completely arbitrary and frankly - terrible way- to differentiate that. How exactly would you propose to measure intent in situations like this? It would be a matter of opinion and completely based on assumption.

Even a careless player has the ability to end someone's career with a headshot, and if he's careless enough to do it repeatedly then he needs to punished.

To be clear - I am ok with the 4 games but don't agree at all with your line of thinking here.
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Volchenkov and Predators say suspension is too much

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Old 11-03-2014, 08:15 AM   #124
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Old 11-03-2014, 08:18 AM   #125
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When is the last time a player got suspended for a cheap shot on a Flames player? I certainly don't recall one getting 4 games. It's kind of felt that Flames players over the years have taken plenty of cheap shots and dirty hits that have gone unpunished.
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Old 11-03-2014, 08:32 AM   #126
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Considering the two priors I would say he is lucky to have only received 4 games. I would hope that Feland does not miss as much and quickly returns to full health.
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Old 11-03-2014, 08:34 AM   #127
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He should feel lucky that he didn't get 5. Thats what was handed out by the NHL on the last head shot suspension... and it wasn't even a diliberate elbow to the head.
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Old 11-03-2014, 08:35 AM   #128
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When is the last time a player got suspended for a cheap shot on a Flames player? I certainly don't recall one getting 4 games. It's kind of felt that Flames players over the years have taken plenty of cheap shots and dirty hits that have gone unpunished.

Typically only coaches get suspended against the Flames.

Him being a repeat offender is probably what led to the hefty suspension.
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Old 11-03-2014, 08:44 AM   #129
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When is the last time a player got suspended for a cheap shot on a Flames player? I certainly don't recall one getting 4 games. It's kind of felt that Flames players over the years have taken plenty of cheap shots and dirty hits that have gone unpunished.
I want to say Boogaard when he broke Prust's jaw with an elbow.



Forgot about this one last year, Ashton got 2 games:

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Forgot about the Prust one....that was so friggin' late Boorgard should have been give 20 games.
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Forgot about the Prust one....that was so friggin' late Boorgard should have been give 20 games.
Yup.... I know its probably not PC to say this about someone who has died, but the guy's only role in the NHL seemed to be to injure players via dirty plays and he did it often. I'm glad he is not in the NHL anymore. Sorry that a human passed away, but glad he's not out there injuring other players.
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I like how his agent grossman is taking to twitter to defend volcheenkov
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Ferland update:

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Also, #Flames LW Michael Ferland (concussion) is apparently feeling good. If that doesn't change, could resume skating soon.
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Suitable punishments will never be dished out as long as GMs, agents, the NHLPA, and everyone else associated with the game in a management role keeps complaining that suspensions are too long. Just once I'd like to hear a GM come out and say that his own player deserved the suspension and they agree with it. But as long as everyone keeps fighting against these suspensions, nothing will ever change.
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Wes Gilbertson @SUNGilbertson
Also, #Flames LW Michael Ferland (concussion) is apparently feeling good. If that doesn't change, could resume skating soon.
Great news! He's the prospect that I find myself following more than the rest. I thought he looked so good in his first game. Hope to see him back soon.
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Just once I'd like to hear a GM come out and say that his own player deserved the suspension and they agree with it. But as long as everyone keeps fighting against these suspensions, nothing will ever change.

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The suspension is warranted, because that's exactly the kind of hit we're trying to get out of the game. Head shots have no place in hockey.
Agreed though, we don't hear enough, from the offending team's GM/Coach, that the suspension was warranted.
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Sorry, but that hit is avoidable if Volchenkov actually gave a damn about the safety of the guy he is hitting.

The NHL needs to get rid of these morons who play careless hockey. This isn't the first time Volchenkov has been caught throwing a dirty hit.

4 games wasn't enough.
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Old 11-06-2014, 12:20 PM   #138
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Suitable punishments will never be dished out as long as GMs, agents, the NHLPA, and everyone else associated with the game in a management role keeps complaining that suspensions are too long...
This is part of the problem, but I think the biggest contributing factor is that those sitting in the office of disciplinarian are too close to those who oversee the game. The position was once held by Brian Burke, who was succeeded by Colin Campbell. Campbell was a former coach who will likely find work with another team or back with the League before long. Burke was an agent and a GM before taking the job, and returned to working for an NHL team. Shanahan has gone on to work as a team executive after his stint, and I have no doubt that Stephan Quintal will likely also find more work in the NHL when his term is done.

If the league was serious about discipline, then the office would be truly independent. It would be staffed with people who have no ties to the League or to any particular team. They would be nobodies with no past and no future in hockey.
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@SUNGilbertson: A note on #Flames LW Michael Ferland -- 22-year-old has resumed skating, is making positive progress in recovery from concussion.
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@SUNGilbertson: A note on #Flames LW Michael Ferland -- 22-year-old has resumed skating, is making positive progress in recovery from concussion.
That's great to hear!
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