Starseed has mason 'n an extra vote. And Guardian one that I'm rackin my noggin if he used it or nah. More o' a mixed bag thar but also could be helpful.
Wait, HG has a power that could prove Pux is telling the truth. What use would the mafia have for a power that investigates night kills? It is no loss to the town if Pux doesn't use it tonight, and that would confirm two townies who would still be alive with an extra vote.
Wait, HG has a power that could prove Pux is telling the truth. What use would the mafia have for a power that investigates night kills? It is no loss to the town if Pux doesn't use it tonight, and that would confirm two townies who would still be alive with an extra vote.
Wait, HG has a power that could prove Pux is telling the truth. What use would the mafia have for a power that investigates night kills? It is no loss to the town if Pux doesn't use it tonight, and that would confirm two townies who would still be alive with an extra vote.
Also since she has multiple powers it would be random which one I get, so I went with Oling because if I get something other than tracking he has been lying this whole time.
Mazrim PM'ed me back and said I have copied a one-shot tracking ability. My renowned bounty hunting and championship racing skills will allow me to track someone at night. I don't think this clears Oling though since my power is picked at random if he has more than one.
Did Timbo slip up his bucket. He should have gotten the report on wood back. Also he assumed that I was saved rather than their be other possibilities.
Or is pux lying.
It is one or the other right now i prefer pux but we shouldn't lynch today lets give us another day to get it right
It's my birthday tomorrow, so I've started celebrating early... I will be pissy-faced all weekend. Sorry I likely won't be of much use...
And I wasn't lying about my night moves.
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I have been lazy in the past little while, so I decided to go beyond the first 1500 posts in updating my voting record. I ended up updating to just past post 4000 where I had enough. All the while I updated my notes. In short, I am dropping the Oling/Timbo witch-hunt, and I am targeting Squiggs/Dissent.
The comments may be disjointed, there was a lot of notes, and thousands of posts to wade through, and over 360 instances of voting/unvoting.
After my Delgar v Oling theory failed, Squiggs vs Dissent occurred while the town was focused on Starseed vs Timbo #2266 "I don't know if he is mafia, but participation has sucked"
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So over this last day period there has been a bunch of back and forth. Many arguments have been made, refuted, theories made, shot down to the point where I honestly have no idea for sure who is scum here, I haven't a clue really. I was certain on starseed, then not so much, now full in doubt...uggg.
We are getting close to where we have to vote somebody so on that note. Unvote
Vote: squiggs96
The only vote I am comfortable making at this time because I see it as a no lose scenario. The guy has been useless since day 1, has not contributed nothing so even if he is town it isn't like we are losing any insight at all by losing him. I am not sure if he is scum or not but it doesn't really matter, his participation has sucked. All he does is lurk in the weeds, show up every blue moon and say something unhelpful and then zark off again. He has my vote.
Response #2277 - comments used in their argument were unnecessarily personal. Most likely an attempt to get people to think that each other's arguments were baseless and driven by petty squabbling. Thus the perfect way to create distance while not providing ammo for others to use against them.
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I can see how you've provided so much help and input into the game, with your most recent posts:
I can go back further, but it doesn't get much better. You can come after Pika if you want, but for all you think you are worth to the game, you haven't found one piece of evidence that someone is scum. You can say I'm useless all you want, but for all the talk in this thread, only townies have been eliminated. All the work that has been done hasn't helped us at all, and if you lynch me, it's going to continue at the same rate. Of course this is Pika's first game, and it's too bad I haven't lived up to your lofty standards.
If you are voting for me because you don't like me, or how I play the game, that's a terrible strategy. If you truly think I'm mafia, then vote away. Once again, if you lynch Pika, you don't find out anything upon the town reveal, and no one's role is protected at night. You're right back to where you were since day 1, which is getting to a lynch and then no one having the guts to hit the hammer. All that's done is add more confusion, and really has only made people reveal their powers to stay. Pika sees this only benefiting the mafia.
I've had you on my radar since day one as well. I don't see the point in voting for you right now though, as I don't think anyone would follow me. Pika is coming at this game with a blank slate and learning to play as he goes along. Of course I wish I'd done a few things differently, but I can only move forward. You apparently can't let go. Chu is sad for you.
When accused of voting for girly to distance himself from her when the town was clearly going after GGG, Dissent repeated the Girly and Aeneas line that the mafia was winning, and then reminded the town not to believe that there are confirmed townies... even while Wood was still alive. #3417, #3418 He then dropped his GS vote and voted for GGG later that day. This was after GS stated that she trusted Dissent.
Post #3472 - Girly votes for GGG while specifically only mentioning Squiggs and Aeneas on her list that she is 'unsure' of, while stating that she trusts diss and Oling.
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Moving you aside doesn't mean I don't think you're mafia. Just for the context of dissentowner's conversation that you are unlynchable, let's put you to one side and address the rest.
I didn't get many answers.
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GGG
My list order, still not sure about squiggs and his enabler power and doctor power AND still letting the doctor die. Aeneas is pretty quiet, can't get a read on him. I trust dissentowner and Oling.
After looking over last week's activity again, it looks like the mafia must have been concerned about GS being the most vulnerable, as she was attracting a lot of attention by being on many short-lists, including the one they could not lynch - GGG. Therefore, she was the best target to sacrifice to build credibility.
Girly was the first in the game to vote for Dissent when she had 5 votes on her.
Girly reveals as princess, Dissent and Squiggs immediately unvote within 10 minutes of her post.
Dissent voted for Squiggs after girly's heat was off and the town was starting to turn to Aeneas. When Oling joined him on the squiggs vote, he switched his vote to Rathji to avoid Squiggs momentum.
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See, this is exactly what I am talking about. Look at past mafia games and how defensive scum are. I don't care what his power was, he posts like a scum because he is hyper defensive. He is either scum or a townie who can't hack the game. I am banking on the former. Either way he should go, guy has lost it and I don't see any better leads. It would be worth it just to end his childish behavior.
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Vote: Rathji
Aeneas claimed one of his targets for Isabelle was Dissentowner, and stated that me and pux visited. While it would have been obvious that we visited him, as the vote was visible to all, I still suspect that he might have watched dissent to see if anyone caught him sending the night kill. One person is selected from the group to send the night kill. If they had known people (like Timbo or Oling) found out about the night kill, they probably would have sacrificed him to build the others' credibility. Explaining that he investigated dissent would also protect him if anyone saw him target Dissent.
Girly pipes up with "how many votes is that" while squiggs has 5 - trying to prevent a quick hammer?
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How many votes is that?
Squiggs points out that Dissent and Girly voted against him in the past. 'Hey! We are totally against each other!'
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So when I want to talk about the messages, you say they messages are always false and don't mean anything, but are quick to bring them up when it suits your argument. I used contrived deceit because I had read it in one of the message posts, and thought it fit the situation. Pika's really happy that you are talking about the two words I used, rather than the actual topic I posted about.
It seems like the lynch Squiggs train is gaining steam, mostly on Oling's vendetta against me. If Oling is mafia, then he played it well, but if he is town, then as I've pointed out before, it has wasted a day and a member of the town. Pika's can point out how Oling's detective skills are worse than Inspector Gadget, but it doesn't seem like you've listened to me before, so why would you start now? I now know how hmmhmmcamo felt at the end of day 2. I've tried many things to convince, but they don't seem to work. Pika will also point out that when I hmmhmm was lynched the votes on me were
Oling, GGG and diss are still on this vote, with Girly likely to join soon. Delgar died, and hmm voted for me as it was one of the two of us who were going to die.
All pika asks is that when you I flip town you go after Oling, and don't believe anything he has to say. He'll manipulate facts, post partial truths and then claim innocence or how big he was in finding out about formulate. I congratulate the mafia on being able to convince us townies to continue to lynch fellow townies. Pika wishes he had gotten to be on the mafia team, but maybe next time.
Dissent was the primary voice stating that the MOT thread was 'a tool for the mafia'. He even stated a couple of times that we were responsible for getting townies killed. We did not bat well, but we were not responsible for any of their deaths. When he gets the heat on, he turns away from his 'top suspect - squiggs', to me. During their squabbles, Squiggs never once voted for Dissent.
As for the Oling campaign:
Oling suspicion was driven largely by him targeting townies aggressively, manipulating GP_Matt's, Hmmhmmcamo's, and my posts. Inexplicably stuck up for Timbo when he was clearly acting erratically. He should have suspected him when Timbo made that link with Formulate since he did have reason to suspect Formulate at the time. Timbo's defence was without much substance, and was clearly written hours before and posted. I dont think he ever clarified why it was so delayed. Also, Formulate aggressively targeted girly, and even flirted with prodding Aeneas and Oling. #2628 Right after that post, Wood mentioned that he was exasperated to see formulate list 3 people he also suspected, because he also suspected Formulate. The second vote after Formulate voted for girly again, was Oling voting for formulate. At that time he had one instance of failure to track formulate, and I believe this was after Rathji had posted that he received a message about a redirection. It would be reasonable to assume, as oling hinted at in this game, that the first failure could have been due to any number of abilities (redirect, deflect, roleblock, bus driver etc).
I would actually have been pretty happy if it ended up that HG, Oling and Timbo were together as mafia, as they were on my shortlist with Formulate and Dissent on day 3. HG's power did not really help the town, as the Rathji day kill did not regenerate. Also, where was the bad thing that was supposed to happen? However, Aeneas' and Girly's behaviour is enough to sway me from that theory.
I know it will seem like an obvious mafia statement, but it was too obvious to ignore... the movement that started my vote on the third day was started by 5 people before I made my reveal. In order: HG, Mrkajz, formulate, aeneas, Oling. Only 1 confirmed townie in the group. Timbo's vote movement started with ECF and mrkajz followed by me and pux, then as the train was moving away from me and onto Timbo, Aeneas jumped off of me and on him.
So, I am going to put my chips on Oling/Timbo being town and vote for Squiggs.
Vote: Squiggs96
If there are 3 mafia left, instead of 2, then we cannot afford to lynch Pux, so I am not going to support that idea.
