CP Mafia 3 - Super Smash Mafia - GAME OVER - Darkness Win!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
That was AWESOME!
You deserve rum after that!

Not gonna lie.... when Peach was around, I did have my fantasies.

NSFW!

[Drury18]

Shiver Me Timbers!

Bowser, ye be a son of a biscuit eater. How did ye get proof of Peach and me's cracking Jenny's tea cup?

[Oling_Roachinen]

I'm going to look like a jackass with my 100 percent Squiggs is mafia stuff but I've changed my mind.

Originally Posted by starseed

We are into the third day, so I think I am just going to vote. Bizarro and baxter are a bit too inactive, so I am randomly going to pick one.

Vote: bizaro86

When the first day vote is looking like inactivity might be the biggest reason to go for someone, Starseed "randomly" picks bizaro86 as the suspect. If Baxter (Aeneas) was just inactive, which we now know he was, trying to get the bizaro86 train started before Baxter's makes sense.

Next day, Timbo votes for Girlysports and Starseed follows but the vote at the time was 6-2 in favour of GP_Matt so it wasn't exactly a huge vote and it's quickly changed to ECF after Girlysports reveals her invitation.

The invitation reject seems to have the opposite effect that Girlysports was going for. All of a sudden she's facing a decent amount of pressure but Starseed doesn't jump back on board and even helps to confirm some of the invitation stuff.

Then there's this:

Originally Posted by Baxter Renegade

Sorry for my inactivity. Been away this weekend again and am traveling to Med Hat today as well. I've read the whole thread and have some good ideas of what's going on here. I will be available tonight to post all thoughts and during the week will have much more time to contribute as traveling will be done.

Originally Posted by Puxlut

Vote:Baxter Renegade
I'm going to throw a vote out on another low poster... just in hopes of getting more input. I wanted to vote for squiggs just for coming in and reading and not posting, but if he's already out surfing and golfing for the day, it would have been a wasted draw out.

Originally Posted by Puxlut

Dammit! I'm a slow typer!

Whatever... Throw me a bone and give us something. I think you can spare 2 minutes...

Posted exactly the same time. Planned?

That vote goes no where.

Aeneas comes in as relief for Baxter and Starseed sends him the joke vote and asks what's taking so long reading the mafia thread. Aeneas throws a joke vote back at Starseed. We might have been being taunted here.

So on day 2 Puxlut and Starseed send out 'useless' votes for the 2 mafia members. A way of distancing themselves?

In their defense, in twilight they do list Girlysports as one of the 3 suspects along with GGG and Delgar. So they are no longer batting 0.

But at this point the MOT have listed GGG as a suspect twice while Starseed was putting him on his own town list. Starseed had checked Wood and confirmed he was town but didn't put him on his town list. Secret had already appeared and was giving false information (saying GGG didn't target anyone while GGG actually used his power on Puxlut, the suggestion that the Twilight thread can be used to talk to the dead).

We also get one of the first mentions of Puxlut being a recruiter from GGG:

Originally Posted by GGG

I bet puxlut is the recruiter for the guardians. The humour of post my invite and Drurys invite really fits well.

Starseed reveals MOT and there's a couple weird things. First he wants us to target people who revealed early. Mazrim had already confirmed there was no issue in revealing (including encouraging it) before anyone revealed.

When Starseed is questioned why Wood was left off his townie list (by me) it's Girlysports who defends:

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Well then of course Starseed would try to hide Wood knowing he's town. Wouldn't you? Again he's not going to announce in pink neon letters that Wood is on the top of his townie list.

Puxlut, still keeping up the charade that she isn't part of MOT posts this:

Originally Posted by Puxlut

Wow. So between SS and his partner, they have 3 powers? Does he clarify who has which? How is knowing who killed someone going to help us? Don't the mafia do night kills? Are the extra votes always redirected? Are you being notified that they are redirected? Why reveal now? I was tempted to reveal my power (but now seeing how you're getting piled on, I don't think I will... a dead town person isn't a helpful townsperson)
Who ever said I have a sense of humour: thanks! I like to think I'm funny
I still don't see specific reasons for GS? All the accusations are getting messed up for me.
Oling is so aggressive! Holy cow! It's good to be digging and asking questions... but really. You take it to a new level. You hassled Delgar too about voting for me. I'm the one he voted for and I didn't get upset as much as you!!!???
Maybe Squiggs and Rathji are the recruiters? They don't post alot. Maybe they are too busy sending out invites.

Multiple people start point out that the connection between Starseed, Puxlut and Girlysports:

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Done a lot of reading today. Here are my thoughts. The MOT in my opinion was clearly a tool for the mafia. I think starseed is mafia and I think MOT 2 is Puxlut who is also mafia. Go back and look at the MOT success rate for pushing us to look into townies and how many have been eliminated. I think they have also been trying to throw us off by listing one of their own that never gets enough attention or votes, that person is girlysports. That is also why despite the MOT's saying we should look into her she just stated she believes starseed is town. You want to find the scum, start looking at the people trying to steer attention away from starseed. Seriously, I am not sure how anyone can not look back and not see the pattern there. Those three I am pretty sure are scum, I have a few others I am suspicious of as well.

Puxlut had also wanted us to reveal what the cop and doctor should do at night, again the only benefit of that is to the mafia so they can plan ahead.

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

On the off-chance he is telling the truth, either Puxlut or Girlysports was going to reveal being his partner. I didn't want to blurt it out in case he was town, but that much is obvious.

The thing with Girlysports is her "trying to confuse the mafia" the same tactic that Starseed is trying to employ now it seems. Starseed not being honest to the town, whether that's leaving off known townies from his townie list, or suggesting the MOT aren't part of this game, just seems like a way to confuse. But the mafia know what is happening, they wont be fooled, they thrive on confusion. She also got the Guardian invite at an opportune time and Starseed was able to confirm most of what it said (while distancing himself from her)

Puxlut's post about trying to decide what the doctor/cop should do has bothered me. Even starseed admits it's a terrible tactic for the town. She seemed like she was fishing for information about the cop from Timbo. I don't believe this is first game naivety. It was already explained why trying to dictate what the cop/doctor do isn't good before she suggested we decide what the cop/doctor do in the twilight thread yesterday. Trying to find out what night timbo found out who the cop was seems mafia oriented as it doesn't do the town any good.

Ever since Starseed's reveal it seemed like a push to get the cop to do what they wanted. Suggesting they investigated starseed or his partner, etc. etc. While overlooking the abilities to redirect or that some mafia members could show up town, see who visited starseed/partner etc. And of course the push away from lynch resulted in another reveal which was bad for town.

Then there's just the powers, why did Starseed and his partner get so many and why is an anonymous vote a good thing? Starseed has also pushed a lot for there being 2 factions (probably serial killer and mafia) but it's 2 nights in a row that only 1 player died. Possible he's not wrong, but seems like another way to cause confusion.

My post is followed immediately after by:

Originally Posted by Aeneas

There we are. GGG coming back to the tried and not so true, don't focus on the cults. You are in one of them. Of course you don't want any focus.

You have long been my number one target for mafia. Coming out so strong and then of late cooling it down. Almost like you got some advice.

Aeneas trying to steer us onto GGG when his mafia friends are under pressure?

Wood asks Girlysports if she's MOT2:

Originally Posted by Wood

So are you admitting you MOT 2?

I'll never understand the mafia doesn't know what we know thing. They do know everything the average townie knows, plus more. That's the game. Informed vs uninformed. The only thing we can keep secret is our powers, and things we individually learn from our powers

Lots of people have started making the connection between Girlysports, Starseed and Puxlut.

There's still the question on why the 'masons' have received so many powers in the first place.

One thing that I've always had a problem wrapping my head around, even when I thought Starseed was town was this:

Originally Posted by starseed

I did not consider the abilities of the mafia.

This was when there was an effort to get the cop to investigate Starseed/partner. Starseed is just too smart not to consider the mafia have abilities.


Plus there's this:

Originally Posted by starseed

I am not going to reveal my ability, but I will say that it is a decent one shot ability. I want to wait until later in the game to use it.

I tracked Starseed, he target me.

[Oling_Roachinen]

And actually we got the luxury of proving my claims now since it's very likely 8-2. If I'm right it will only take 2 days to do end this so we can do this quick.

My investigator power only really works if one of the '1-timer power confirmed townies' is actually doing stuff at night now anyways.

Vote: Oling_Roachinen

[GGG]

Starseed targeted you last night or on a previous night?

Why are you voting for yourself? Proving your town does nothing to make your ides better or worse. If we are town we have 2 or 3 chances to get it right why waste one on yourself if you know your are town.

Bad town play.

[GGG]

Also if Starseed and Pux are scum if we get one we get both. So we should lynch one of them when we hit 4-2. We are at 8-2 today so I think we wait two days to close them out. No need to lynch you and spend two of our 3 days.

We can lynch you for other reasons though if we think you are scum.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by GGG

Starseed targeted you last night or on a previous night?

Why are you voting for yourself? Proving your town does nothing to make your ides better or worse. If we are town we have 2 or 3 chances to get it right why waste one on yourself if you know your are town.

Bad town play.

I win if town wins. There's enough evidence that Girlysports was working with Starseed and Puxlut that I'm more sure they are mafia than I was sure Formulate was scum.

If I'm wrong, meh, made enough bad choices that it's better I die than anyone else. Especially since it's always going to come back to me being the only "unconfirmed" town anyways.

I would consider an invite given the kill yesterday actually working but outside of that, I think I've done my part in this game.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by GGG

Also if Starseed and Pux are scum if we get one we get both. So we should lynch one of them when we hit 4-2. We are at 8-2 today so I think we wait two days to close them out. No need to lynch you and spend two of our 3 days.

We can lynch you for other reasons though if we think you are scum.

Well, disagree with you on that 4-2 thing. They have an extra vote. Last game the mafia also got a poison kill, who knows if Starseed was actually being honest about his powerful 1 time one-shot power as well. Don't take the risk that we think it will be 4-2 and it ends up 3-2 and they have enough votes to force the tie then.

[starseed]

Last night after the GS kill, I strongly suspected Oling. I made a post supporting Oling's theory about Squiggs, but I did not actually believe it. He was clearly wrong, again, so was trying to soften the blow.

I wanted Oling to think that we would put our extra vote on Squiggs so that he would not target us with the night kill. We obviously voted Oling, so he knew that I would have targeted him.

Pux doused Oling on night 6, and it failed.Why did Pika's day kill work? Was it an eternal power?

I am going to call Oling's bluff. Voting for yourself is never pro-town, and he should know that by now. In the unlikely event he flips town, you could take me out and we would still have another chance. (unless it was a darkness poison last night)

Vote: Oling_Roachinen

[GGG]

Squiggs hasn't answered the question with a clear answer.

Did The eternals power kill Oling?

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by starseed

Pux doused Oling on night 6, and it failed.Why did Pika's day kill work? Was it an eternal power?

Why not just mention that yesterday? I'm already suspected of being bulletproof, bringing that up would have helped Formulate's claim and done absolutely no harm at all to anything else. Especially once Squiggs96 kill went through...

It's not exactly a bluff when me, you, Puxlut and the extra vote are enough to lynch anyways.

[Hockeyguy15]

Wow! When I got home from the game drunk on herion beer, reading the goings on from the other day was pretty crazy. I had to re-read it hung over yesterday because I didn't remember half of it, haha.

Originally Posted by Puxlut

Didn't HG join at the last minute? Maybe he used a "gift"?

Yeah I accepted the invite before I went out because I wasn't going to be able to wait until the deadline to see if I should accept. Killing 2 mafia pretty much made my new power useless, as I only accepted it because the vote ratio from the other day.

The power I got is a 1 shot copy-cat power called transform. I can copy one of a persons unused ability at random. I accepted it because I was worried that Diss was mafia and could have an extra vote or make someone unlynchable. So my plan was going to be to copy his power and hope that I got the vote one so if he was scum we could balance out the voting numbers. Now that we got 2 mafia (well done by the way squiggs) and the numbers are in our favour this power I have is pretty much useless since Diss has the only unused powers left.

[Hockeyguy15]

Also Drury I give you credit for typing out twilight in pirate speak, but I have no idea what half of it means.

[Timbo]

Great Morning all.

I have a theory... external powers will only work on scum.

This might explain why Squiggs one shot worked (if he would answer the question)
Also if scum are writing the messages the "contrived deciet" makes sense as odds were that external powers would be used against town first.

Guardian powers might only work on town. That could be why Rathjis one shot failed.

Or Oling is bulletproof.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Timbo

Great Morning all.

I have a theory... external powers will only work on scum.

This might explain why Squiggs one shot worked (if he would answer the question)
Also if scum are writing the messages the "contrived deciet" makes sense as odds were that external powers would be used against town first.

Guardian powers might only work on town. That could be why Rathjis one shot failed.

Or Oling is bulletproof.

My theory as well. Formulate's kill on GGG didn't work while Squiggs96 kill on Girlysports did.

GGG confirmed town, Girlysports confirmed mafia.

[Hockeyguy15]

Starseed or puxlut, if you guys tried to kill Oling the other day why did you swap your vote to squiggs?

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by starseed

I wanted Oling to think that we would put our extra vote on Squiggs so that he would not target us with the night kill.

How would you have been able to do that with Squiggs96 being lynched?

You removed your vote before the kill and the tides had already shifted where Squiggs96 was now the most likely to be lynched.

Ha, another lie. Yep, I'm good guys. Call it a day, lynch me, lynch Starseed, win game.

[starseed]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Starseed or puxlut, if you guys tried to kill Oling the other day why did you swap your vote to squiggs?

Having the eternal power fail was just par for the course. Squiggs having visited the people who got extra votes does seem suspicious, but at the same time they were legitimate targets if his ability is real. I thought there was a good chance that he was giving out an extra vote to the eternals for the mafia at the time. Oling has probably always been on my radar, and with the squiggs kill, I was even more confident.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by starseed

Having the eternal power fail was just par for the course. Squiggs having visited the people who got extra votes does seem suspicious, but at the same time they were legitimate targets if his ability is real. I thought there was a good chance that he was giving out an extra vote to the eternals for the mafia at the time. Oling has probably always been on my radar, and with the squiggs kill, I was even more confident.

Sorry I went back and say you had only unvoted Oling, I thought you also voted for squiggs.