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Old 10-28-2014, 10:31 AM   #4021
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It looks like you are correct. The rest of the post remains correct. Pika's vote was on GP at the time and was willing to move to hmmhmm if ECF used his night kill on GP.
Okay, congratulations. You were willing to lynch one townie instead of the other townie. And when the poison on GP_Matt (although it ended up going to GGG since GP_Matt died) failed you were set up so we would lynch our own doctor.

You called our doctor a liar multiples times and didn't protect him.
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Old 10-28-2014, 10:37 AM   #4022
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Okay, congratulations. You were willing to lynch one townie instead of the other townie. And when the poison on GP_Matt (although it ended up going to GGG since GP_Matt died) failed you were set up so we would lynch our own doctor.

You called our doctor a liar multiples times and didn't protect him.
I don't have notes. Can you remind me what happened here?
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Old 10-28-2014, 10:38 AM   #4023
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I don't have notes. Can you remind me what happened here?
From what I remember, ECF tried to poison GGG but it didn't work.

GGG tried to track you but got the results back from ECF instead.

I believe it was that night that Squiggs used his power to ensure the poison would work, I think he also protected Wood that night instead of ECF?
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Old 10-28-2014, 10:39 AM   #4024
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At work so can't dig.

Who were the 6 on Diss before we started to unvote.
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Old 10-28-2014, 10:40 AM   #4025
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From what I remember, ECF tried to poison GGG but it didn't work.

GGG tried to track you but got the results back from ECF instead.

I believe it was that night that Squiggs used his power to ensure the poison would work, I think he also protected Wood that night instead of ECF?
It was the next night that Squiggs protected wood when ECF died.
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Old 10-28-2014, 10:40 AM   #4026
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I don't have notes. Can you remind me what happened here?
GP_Matt joined the Eternals day 1. He "received" lynchproof.

Day 2 ECF joined and "received" a poison.

At one point there was talk of ECF using the poison on GP_Matt to bypass the lynchproof.

Wood killed GP_Matt with his vig ability instead.

ECF used his poison on GGG the next night. GGG didn't die. Squiggs96 called out ECF as a liar multiple times. And then when it was found ECF was the doctor and honest, the logic applied backwards to say GGG was bulletproof.
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Old 10-28-2014, 10:42 AM   #4027
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At work so can't dig.

Who were the 6 on Diss before we started to unvote.
Not in any order - Starseed/Puxlut extra vote, Girly, Starseed, Me, You, Timbo,
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Old 10-28-2014, 10:43 AM   #4028
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Vote Count:

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes on any one player to hammer. It takes 4 votes to deadline lynch.

Hasn’t Voted (2): Drury18, Aeneas

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dissentowner (6): GirlySports, GGG, starseed, Timbo, Hockeyguy15
squiggs96 (2): Oling_Roachinen, Rathji
Puxlut (1):
Aeneas (1): Puxlut
Oling_Roachinen (1): squiggs96
starseed (1): dissentowner

The deadline is Tuesday, October 28th at 10:00 PM Mountain Time.
Found it.
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Old 10-28-2014, 10:45 AM   #4029
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First Squiggs called ECF a liar because the poison didn't work. (He made another similar post I believe as well):
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Based on my power, your action should have gone through. This either means the action was fake, or you are lying. Pika sees you have supported him the last couple days, and followed his vote a few times. Based on this, and every thought of mine being wrong, I will guess you are lying. I hope I'm wrong here too.
Then uses the poison not working on GGG, after ECF is dead, as an excuse to lynch GGG:
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Pika should have trusted ECF more than he did. He tried to poison GGG, and has been right on almost every thought he had in the game. I'm going to build on these thoughts and try and avenge ECF's death, when I could have protected him last night.

vote GGG
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Old 10-28-2014, 10:46 AM   #4030
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And then when GGG reveals town (more-or-less), he finally concedes that the Eternal powers are fake.

Yet last night he target Puxlut saying he wanted to use his power to make sure that the Eternal fire power went through. It doesn't make sense.
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Old 10-28-2014, 10:48 AM   #4031
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Thanks for clarifying. You would have to be godfather plus tracking ability for you to be scum. I had forgotten that Timbo has validated your claim of tracker. This means its not your scum buddy feeding you info.

Both Timbo and you are very unlikely to both be scum.
Why would you say that? They have been working together and corroborating throughout the game. He was the primary force working against the timbo Lynch. Again, timbo appeared to have the only solid link to formulate, and he didn't aggressively advocate formulates Lynch, or the Lynch of the guy linked to him at the time... He targeted me instead.
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Old 10-28-2014, 10:50 AM   #4032
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Found it.
HG voted at 6:56am Oct 27
GGG unvoted at 1:47pm

that was the main hammering period.
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Old 10-28-2014, 11:19 AM   #4033
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Why would you say that? They have been working together and corroborating throughout the game. He was the primary force working against the timbo Lynch. Again, timbo appeared to have the only solid link to formulate, and he didn't aggressively advocate formulates Lynch, or the Lynch of the guy linked to him at the time... He targeted me instead.
Yes I did. But without revealing no one followed me. I voted for Formulate multiple times.

I didn't like the subtlety formulate had in defending you but at the same time not leaving the chance you are mafia out of the possibility. It seemed subtle but if you look he mentions you more than anyone else. Again, he wanted a couple days before the hammer to drop but in those couple of days the vote got changed to Timbo and he came back nearly exactly as the vote for you failed. Those seemed more than coincidences to me. Also didn't like how you made GGG a suspect in twilight, but were saying he was town in the thread and especially didn't like the talking with dead stuff. But meh, like I said I was wrong.


Starseed, why do you think Squiggs96 target Puxlut yesterday though? Are you not worried about that vote?
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Old 10-28-2014, 11:33 AM   #4034
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How in the world am I associated with manipulating you to hammer Diss? By my unvoting?

Sorry I am missing something in your logic. Aeneas and Girly yes, me no.
You dropped your vote for an odd reason, then Girly and Aeneas pop in with their thing. Entirely possible they played off what you did to create the situation without you being involved.

This is why I included the "Maybe".

I still have pretty good reason to think you are town, so not on my list really at this point, or at the very end at worst.
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Old 10-28-2014, 11:36 AM   #4035
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Not in any order - Starseed/Puxlut extra vote, Girly, Starseed, Me, You, Timbo,
In my current world this exonerates Diss pretty well.

Girly - Scum
Starseed- town
Oling - Sucm
Me - Town
Timbo town

It would be real dangerous to have 3 scum on this wagon so they needed to push for the lynch to be done by someone else.

I can't seem to work the logic the other way if Diss is scum then what is Girly, Oling and Timbo doing there unless they are innocent Diss is campaigning for a starseed, pux, squiggs mafia so what does that leave you with for Scum

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Old 10-28-2014, 11:38 AM   #4036
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In my current world this exonerates Diss pretty well.

Girly - Scum
Starseed- town
Oling - Sucm
Me - Town
Timbo town

It would be real dangerous to have 3 scum on this wagon so they needed to push for the lynch to be done by someone else.

I can't seem to work the logic the other way if Diss is scum then what is Girly, Oling and Timbo doing there unless they are innocent Diss is campaigning for a starseed, pux, squiggs mafia so what does that leave you with for Scum

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GGG, what the #### man?

I thought it was pretty clear that I've been voting for Squiggs96 today...
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In my current world this exonerates Diss pretty well.

Girly - Scum
Starseed- town
HG- town
Me - Town
Timbo town

It would be real dangerous to have 3 scum on this wagon so they needed to push for the lynch to be done by someone else.

I can't seem to work the logic the other way if Diss is scum then what is Girly, Oling and Timbo doing there unless they are innocent Diss is campaigning for a starseed, pux, squiggs mafia so what does that leave you with for Scum

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IGNORE THIS I screwed up who was on the Wagon.
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Old 10-28-2014, 11:42 AM   #4038
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GGG please, just go over Squiggs96 posts with what we know now.

If you still think he's not our best option then I won't be able to convince you and we can call this a day.

Also hopefully Drury18 can post soon.
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Old 10-28-2014, 11:44 AM   #4039
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In my current world this exonerates Diss pretty well.

Girly - Scum
Starseed- town
Oling - Sucm
Me - Town
Timbo town

It would be real dangerous to have 3 scum on this wagon so they needed to push for the lynch to be done by someone else.

I can't seem to work the logic the other way if Diss is scum then what is Girly, Oling and Timbo doing there unless they are innocent Diss is campaigning for a starseed, pux, squiggs mafia so what does that leave you with for Scum

Squiggs
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I just came to this same conclusion when you asked for the list for those on the vote.

One of Girly and Aeneas is mafia for sure, maybe both. Currently, they are 2 of the 3 votes on him. They also tried to convince Puxlut and I to hammer, which had manipulation written all over it.

This part was what sold me on it being manipulation to do what she wants, it is trying to pull the decision to hammer away from the group, where she thinks it is, and give it to one person.

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Puxlut says she will hammer if we say so.. why does she need permission. She's not a supporting actress, she's equal to everyone else.
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Old 10-28-2014, 11:46 AM   #4040
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Lets try this again

Girly - Scum / town
Starseed- town
HG - Town
Me - Town
Timbo town


So having previously completely screwed up the previous analysis.
Here is my now look at this.

You have maybe 1 scum on this list. If 5 town have voted for it and rathji and pux haven't voted for that means one town is left to swing.

I think my current rank is

Oling
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