10-23-2014, 01:58 PM
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#921
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Ok, but when you immigrate to Canada you not only agree to become a Canadian with the normal rights and privileges and to good faith integrate into this society. But you also agree to obey the laws of the land.
Therefore to me if you come here and break laws. Of leave to go fight for a terrorist organization haven't you broken that covenant?
I get what your saying about two tier citizenship, but your acceptance and granting of citizenship is under conditions that you have to live up to and these are conditions that are slightly different then citizens that were born here.
Don't know if I'm explaining my position well here.
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What society do citizens not agree to abiding by the laws of the land though? I thought it was a given that whether you were born in Canada or are a naturalized citizen, you have to obey Canadian laws. Isn't that what the legal system is for?
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10-23-2014, 01:59 PM
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#922
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I like the idea of an island prison. Just make it near Australia so it will be full of spiders
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10-23-2014, 02:01 PM
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#923
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by _Q_
What society do citizens not agree to abiding by the laws of the land though? I thought it was a given that whether you were born in Canada or are a naturalized citizen, you have to obey Canadian laws. Isn't that what the legal system is for?
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Yes but naturalized citizens take a direct oath vs an assumed oath for citizens born within a country.
It's the only difference. Shouldn't matter in a discussion regarding stripping citizenship IMHO.
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10-23-2014, 02:05 PM
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#924
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by _Q_
What society do citizens not agree to abiding by the laws of the land though? I thought it was a given that whether you were born in Canada or are a naturalized citizen, you have to obey Canadian laws. Isn't that what the legal system is for?
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I guess, the main difference is that someone that is born here and raised here is automatically a citizen, someone that immigrates here has to take an oath and has to accept and abide by conditions to be given or granted citizen ship, its to an extent citizenship granted conditionally.
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10-23-2014, 02:06 PM
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#925
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by jeffman
I like the idea of an island prison. Just make it near Australia so it will be full of spiders
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Secluded Island paradise off the coast of Australia? What are we doing? Trying to encourage crime?
Why don't we just build a wall around Edmonton and throw all the world's terrorists there. It would be hell on earth for them.
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10-23-2014, 02:36 PM
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#927
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Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Nanaimo
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Originally Posted by Titan
Why would they not be loaded, or at least have a clip handy?
It would seem to me that a guard, ceremonial or not, should be able to guard, particularly at Parliament Hill, which I would consider a likely target?
Just seems odd to me.
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They are not Parliamentary Security.
The reason they have Guards posted at the Memorial is to stop vandalism.
The guards were placed at this location after 3 drunken teenagers posted pictures of themselves pissing on the Memorial.
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10-23-2014, 02:38 PM
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#928
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Franchise Player
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Tons of new info from the press conference, which will obviously come out shortly.
The last question asked the RCMP about PM Harper being unprotected at the time of the shooting. RCMP Commissioner didn't know the exact status of the PM at exact time of the shooting, but what he did state is that the PM now has/and will continue to have 24/7 protection detail.
I guess I was naive and would have thought he would have had at least one piece of protection with him at all time, but that clearly wasn't the case.
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10-23-2014, 02:39 PM
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#929
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Location: east van
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45,500 Canadian soldiers died to defend our freedoms in 39' to 45', I seriously doubt Cpl Cirillo would want his death to result in the loss of our freedoms his own brothers in arms died for.
One moron with a gun or 90 morons with guns is not worth changing Canada for, more people die each year in snowmobile accidents than these twats could ever manage.
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10-23-2014, 02:41 PM
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#930
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Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by afc wimbledon
45,500 Canadian soldiers died to defend our freedoms in 39' to 45', I seriously doubt Cpl Cirillo would want his death to result in the loss of our freedoms his own brothers in arms died for.
One moron with a gun or 90 morons with guns is not worth changing Canada for, more people die each year in snowmobile accidents than these twats could ever manage.
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If we change our society the terrorists have won.
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10-23-2014, 02:41 PM
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#931
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That image of his dogs is heartbreaking. I hope they get a good home. And then there's his poor son. God dammit.
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10-23-2014, 02:45 PM
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#933
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All these stories sure bring on the waterworks.
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10-23-2014, 02:49 PM
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#934
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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Quote:
Originally Posted by burn_this_city
If we change our society the terrorists have won.
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Partly it's that, but also it's the reality that as tragic as this and 9/11 and London and madrids bombings were/are life goes on, none of this, even 9/11 actually threatens our countries, these are pinpricks in reality, it is not a war here, it's a crime wave at best
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10-23-2014, 03:17 PM
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#935
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by bigtmac19
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Wow... 
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10-23-2014, 04:06 PM
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#937
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by oilers_fan
That image of his dogs is heartbreaking. I hope they get a good home. And then there's his poor son. God dammit.
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Pretty sure the child is gonna have it much tougher than the dogs.
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10-23-2014, 04:08 PM
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#938
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10-23-2014, 04:10 PM
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#939
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Originally Posted by Acey
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I hope the centre is shutdown ASAP.
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10-23-2014, 04:12 PM
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#940
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I hope the centre is shutdown ASAP.
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Seems like quite an over reaction.
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