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Old 10-21-2014, 04:50 PM   #3441
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I just replied. I said I would accept. I just got the idea that my message was someone different from Wood, so just seeing if it's the eternals. I don't have to use my fire (if I get it and if it works...) We'll just have to see which side I joined.
So two 'invites' out at the same time. There goes my theory. Thanks.
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Old 10-21-2014, 04:50 PM   #3442
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I'm not saying I disagree. I'm going back and forth.

But didn't you just make an argument how we can't put anyone on confirmed townie list and the only person who can reveal is the cop?

So now what happens if he dies tonight? No confirmed townies, in your opinion. I mean at this point the mafia almost has to know who the cop is. Maybe at worst they have 2 targets and can probably kill one and block the other (assuming Squiggs96 is telling the truth about his power it only works if the mafia have a blocker).
That is a valid argument. I guess the cop should decide if revealing what he knows will help the town.
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Old 10-21-2014, 04:56 PM   #3443
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ok, I am listening.

In order for you to prove that it is possible for me t be mafia, you must fulfill the following 2 conditions:

1. Prove that it makes sense to Mazrim to give that power to a Mafia member.

To do this, give me any common situation, where it would make sense for a mafia member to skip the only time they are able to kill people (baring vigilante powers, which are clearly a Townie power in almost every circumstance)?

Any situation will do, except ####### Mod games, which Mazrim clearly has indicated that this is not one of.


2. Then, explain why a mafia member would use that ability in this time of the game where they are dominating so clearly.

After you have done that, then we can continue with your thing. However, until then, you are just distracting the town from what we need to be doing, so I will pay no more attention to your accusations.
1.If a mafia member could skip the night he would also skip all night actions the town could do. That would benefit the mafia.
2. Why not?

You still did not address what was in my message sent to me about the mafia board. Maybe it was to add confusion, maybe not. My point being is that you are not comfirmed town, nobody is. The scum have many tricks. Right now I am less suspicious of you than the two I mentioned in my last post and especially the person I voted for.
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Old 10-21-2014, 05:04 PM   #3444
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I have not drank anything from GS, I just voted to lynch her. I am saying that saying stuff like so and so is a confirmed town member is foolish. Some are better suspects than others but everybody should be looked at. That message I got makes me suspicious of Rathji but I am not voting to lynch him right now, I need to see more of his posts. It is all a crapshoot really but my money is on GS or Squiggs who continues to lay in the weeds and only does what everyone else suggests.
What kind of role would send you a cryptic message if it was meant to help us as town. If the message were just Rathji is scum or something like that I could see what you are sysing is true.

I agree with your position then on not using confirmed but with only a few lynches to go we really need to lynch only the best suspects. So thats why someone like Rathji can wait until Lynch or Lose day.
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Old 10-21-2014, 05:05 PM   #3445
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What kind of role would send you a cryptic message if it was meant to help us as town. If the message were just Rathji is scum or something like that I could see what you are sysing is true.

I agree with your position then on not using confirmed but with only a few lynches to go we really need to lynch only the best suspects. So thats why someone like Rathji can wait until Lynch or Lose day.
Ok, fair enough. That makes sense.
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Old 10-21-2014, 05:06 PM   #3446
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I think Timbo should reveal if we do decide to go down this route. It's one thing we're on the same page about, I think.
Sorry, missed that part, you are correct, it should be Timbo that should reveal.
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Old 10-21-2014, 05:07 PM   #3447
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The thing is it is starting to get close to a lynch a scum or we are in deep doo doo time. We have to get it right. Maybe the cop should reveal after all. I am fine with either GS or squiggs as a best bet. I have voted so you know what I think.
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Old 10-21-2014, 05:08 PM   #3448
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The cop should only reveal if they want to. If they reveal Timbo can confirm it's them. Timbo shouldn't reveal on his own
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So two 'invites' out at the same time. There goes my theory. Thanks.
I still think your theory is right, Its just a scum power and they just get guardian invites (that powers work) and eternal invites (which powers don't) and one of each can be out at a time. They get to cause confusion at the expense of handing out powers to townies.
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Old 10-21-2014, 05:15 PM   #3450
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The cop should only reveal if they want to. If they reveal Timbo can confirm it's them. Timbo shouldn't reveal on his own
The draw back with this is if Timbo is scum he can confirm whoever pops up. If we force Timbo to name them it outs him if he is scum. Unless of course both are scum.

If the cop comes out first, Scum timbo says it isn't him, what do we do? This to me seems like a bad situation to be in.

The risk in having Timbo do it is that we don't know how much info the cop has only the cop does. We could reveal him with nothing.

Timbo, can you verfiy the type of investigation that was returned to you? Do you know if it was a role cop investigating or an alignment cop investigating. Can you definitively tell the difference. In an earlier post you stated you did not recieve the allignment back.

With the amount of powers in this game to help us out and the people we have left I do not believe we had a cop. The only piece of evidence that points to a cop is Timbo and his bucket.
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Old 10-21-2014, 05:38 PM   #3451
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If the cop reveals and you don't believe it and if timbo confirms or reveals the cop first and you don't believe it you're not going to believe anything.

We have to pick one or the other. So for me whatever Timbo says about the cop I will believe.
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Old 10-21-2014, 05:47 PM   #3452
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If the cop reveals and you don't believe it and if timbo confirms or reveals the cop first and you don't believe it you're not going to believe anything.

We have to pick one or the other. So for me whatever Timbo says about the cop I will believe.
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1.If a mafia member could skip the night he would also skip all night actions the town could do. That would benefit the mafia.
2. Why not?

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1. Nope. If they could just avoid night actions of the town, it would benefit them, but without the night kill, there is no way they can advance the game toward them winning. No way Mazrim would give a mafia member that power on the basis of not having any town actions for one night.

2. Maybe you misunderstood what I asked, so will paraphrase it here. What was the possible benefit to the mafia of skipping night for the mafia? Without a benefit, there is no reason for them to do it.

If you answered those questions, I will address the rest of your questions. Until that point, I will not respond at all to any post you make on this matter.
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Old 10-21-2014, 06:22 PM   #3455
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Timbo, can you verfiy the type of investigation that was returned to you? Do you know if it was a role cop investigating or an alignment cop investigating. Can you definitively tell the difference. In an earlier post you stated you did not recieve the allignment back.
I would like this answered as well.

Timbo, without revealing anything on the cop, how did you know the cop without a town alignment reveal?

I'm beginning to have doubts the cop even exists.
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Old 10-21-2014, 06:39 PM   #3457
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And just like that.... BAM!

I'm a member of the Eternals.

So the bad guy-sounding invites are from the eternals. and the anti-GGG guys are the Guardians.
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Old 10-21-2014, 06:41 PM   #3458
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Remember how formulate had such a hard on for GGG? He was an eternal.
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Old 10-21-2014, 06:43 PM   #3459
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Gaurdians are very pro-GGG. He's a member and in my message they were quite happy he was still alive
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sorry... I meant pro. that's why I tied form and eternals together.
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