CP Mafia 3 - Super Smash Mafia - GAME OVER - Darkness Win!

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Drury18

mrkatz44 - Asks if he's read correctly that formulate may have a partner

GGG - Says hi to mrkajz44

mrkajz44 - It appears that there is a non-town and non-mafia faction. Possible duo serial killer

Does anyone else know where mrkajz was reading this formulate + a partner thing?

Also why did you say hi to him after his question GGG? Just seems like a weird thing to do.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Does anyone else know where mrkajz was reading this formulate + a partner thing?

Also why did you say hi to him after his question GGG? Just seems like a weird thing to do.

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpos...postcount=3217

Based on him having an associate I guess. But serial killer is solo and there was only 1 kill today (although I guess every day but the first day has been )

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Not to steer anything off GGG, but Diss what "terms" did they ask?

So there is a 3rd group, who can steal 'powers' from the Eternals?

I have been debating on if I should post that info, I will do so now. The terms were not bad really. They asked me to ask Rathji to give them feedback on his dayvig power, that they forgot to tell him it was a prototype and that was why it did not work. They said he can just post the response in the mafia topic. Now when I first read that I took it as the mafia board where all the scum talked and they were telling me he was scum but I think they mean this board here. The compensation for delivering the message was a bulletproof vest stolen from The Eternals which probably would not work. I was not asked to join anything. I could have kept this on the lowdown like they asked and took the vest, I mean even if it fails to save me I woud be killed anyhow, at least with the vest there would be a possibility if someone took a shot at me it would save my butt. The reason I did not was to show I am playing the game honestly, I am not taking help from any outside source, I am with the light and the light only.

[Hockeyguy15]

So then it sounds like your message was from the Guardians, since they were the ones to give Rathji his power.

It's weird they didn't ask you to join. Maybe this was a way for them to try and trick you to join.

[Wood]

well GGG is going to fight this until his dying breath, whether hes town or mafia.We all know the town is in troble of losing if we lynch a town player today. If hes town hes going to try to save himself and get the town on track, if hes mafia hes going to try to get off the hook because if he lives another day mafias that much closer to winning. What's more likely?

In my eyes GGG is absolutely mafia, and hes played a great game

Theres 4 ways today can play out:
1. We lynch GGG, hes mafia. Perfect
2. We lynch GGG, hes town, he'll live because of his supposed lynchproof ability and we have a confirmed townie. downside is we get no kill
3. We lynch someone else and hit mafia
4. We lynch someone else and theyre town. Odds are that the only unconfimed townie is the cop. Its either Aeneas, Rathji or Dissentowner. Two of those guys will be mafia

Lynching GGG is the best move. Im confident hes mafia. If hes not at least he wont be killed. It would be a much worse sitation if we flip and lynch town, because they'd die and we also lose one at night

Its a numbers game now, mafia doesnt have many places left to hide

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

I tracked Rathji.

So, you posted that last one about being suspicious of Starseed?



I don't even get what you're getting at. Like that doesn't make much sense at all to me. But in a short little bit you've wanted us to discuss if Drury18's power were anti-town, wanted Squiggs96 dead (and if he showed town you would be sure me or timbo were mafia) wanted girlysports dead, were suspicious of Starseed (by extension Puxlut), and voted Aeneas?

Lot of names there. Seems like just trying to get something to stick at this point.

Vote: GGG

Have Drury check what i said exactly but the point there was do guardian powers work. I am not suspicious of starseed /puxlut. But if none of the powers worked then the assumption that wood is town is false. Not something i would act on today but worth discussing at some point.

Day kill on form didn't work, my tracking didn't work, none of the eternal powers worked. the fake Me said he investigated wood. (Why?). So if the powers dont work from either side it calls that investigation into question.

I think in general we dont discuss enough various options. Pushing people like Drury and discussing his power is a good thing. Note i have always kept him on the twon side of my ledger. Attack gauge reaction, attack someone else.

I stand by my kill squiggs logic
i stand by my girlysports logic
and i stand by my aeneas logic.

We have to kill scum today. Aeneas to me is our best chance. Squiggs was better yesterday as we didn't want to reveal more powers.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Does anyone else know where mrkajz was reading this formulate + a partner thing?

Also why did you say hi to him after his question GGG? Just seems like a weird thing to do.

I figured mrKacjz was secret, i was wrong. I believe i said hi before he posted but maybe it was at the same time

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Wood

well GGG is going to fight this until his dying breath, whether hes town or mafia.We all know the town is in troble of losing if we lynch a town player today. If hes town hes going to try to save himself and get the town on track, if hes mafia hes going to try to get off the hook because if he lives another day mafias that much closer to winning. What's more likely?

In my eyes GGG is absolutely mafia, and hes played a great game

Theres 4 ways today can play out:
1. We lynch GGG, hes mafia. Perfect
2. We lynch GGG, hes town, he'll live because of his supposed lynchproof ability and we have a confirmed townie. downside is we get no kill
3. We lynch someone else and hit mafia
4. We lynch someone else and theyre town. Odds are that the only unconfimed townie is the cop. Its either Aeneas, Rathji or Dissentowner. Two of those guys will be mafia

Lynching GGG is the best move. Im confident hes mafia. If hes not at least he wont be killed. It would be a much worse sitation if we flip and lynch town, because they'd die and we also lose one at night

Its a numbers game now, mafia doesnt have many places left to hide

Two things to note here:

1) Lynching me and me living and lynching another random townie has the same affect on our win condition. It still costs us 1 of our misses.

2) We are better off disclosing the cop today and having Timbo do it (so it isn't a scum claim). The mafia has a rolecop, I believe this is almost certain. They would have used it again last night. It would have been used on whichever are town between Rathji, Girly, Diss(did disclose 2 one shot abilities) and Aeneas.

Meaning the mafia knows who the cop is and will kill them tonight unless we can protect them. Our deflector and doctor are dead. Thats about it for protective roles unless Diss has a one shot protect left in his abilities.

[Wood]

Oh yeah forgot girly in the potential cop list

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by GGG

Have Drury check what i said exactly but the point there was do guardian powers work. I am not suspicious of starseed /puxlut. But if none of the powers worked then the assumption that wood is town is false. Not something i would act on today but worth discussing at some point.

Day kill on form didn't work, my tracking didn't work, none of the eternal powers worked. the fake Me said he investigated wood. (Why?). So if the powers dont work from either side it calls that investigation into question.

I think in general we dont discuss enough various options. Pushing people like Drury and discussing his power is a good thing. Note i have always kept him on the twon side of my ledger. Attack gauge reaction, attack someone else.

I stand by my kill squiggs logic
i stand by my girlysports logic
and i stand by my aeneas logic.

We have to kill scum today. Aeneas to me is our best chance. Squiggs was better yesterday as we didn't want to reveal more powers.

Day kill on formulate didn't work because he was Serial Killer and bulletproof. Heck he admitted it.

Starseed's investigation gave him information that Wood was town before the vig reveal. That seemed to work. Again, don't know why we need to look at Wood. Another name thrown out.

You used your power, and while probably redirected or possibly not used on your intended target, it worked and you saw who ECF targeted with his actions.

I think the only reason your saying they don't work now is that we've had 2 kills not work on you fail.

[starseed]

GGG dodged at least 3 kill attempts when ecfs poison is considered. We only think the eternals powers fail because they have failed to kill him both times they were tested.

Originally Posted by GGG

I figured mrKacjz was secret, i was wrong. I believe i said hi before he posted but maybe it was at the same time

To be fair (Although I think you're scummy) There were delays in posts in Twilight. I think I screwed up on one of my posts (between pux and MOT) when my question to my own statement about factions.

And to answer Drury why I didn't vote for form was that we already had a hammer, we were just waiting for deadline. So I didn't bother.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Day kill on formulate didn't work because he was Serial Killer and bulletproof. Heck he admitted it.

Starseed's investigation gave him information that Wood was town before the vig reveal. That seemed to work. Again, don't know why we need to look at Wood. Another name thrown out.

You used your power, and while probably redirected or possibly not used on your intended target, it worked and you saw who ECF targeted with his actions.

I think the only reason your saying they don't work now is that we've had 2 kills not work on you fail.

We also just had a message from an unknown source (my mafia buddies if you believe I am scum) that said the power didn't work because it was a prototype. The problem here is that I know the eternal powers are broken and do not work. You do not.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by GGG

We also just had a message from an unknown source (my mafia buddies if you believe I am scum) that said the power didn't work because it was a prototype. The problem here is that I know the eternal powers are broken and do not work. You do not.

But you just said day kill on formulate didn't work. Umm, yeah because he was bulletproof. We know the Guardian powers have worked, at least in part. I don't know why you are trying to misguide us by saying formulate didn't die because the power are fake when we know he was bulletproof.

[Hockeyguy15]

Powers publicly used - Wood (vig), Drury (lynch save), starseed (twilight, half vote), and myself (rewind)...Timbo to an extent as well since he got a vote from his bucket.

Revealed power - Oling (track), GGG (lynch-proof), squiggs (empowerer), puxlut (investigate who killed who, half vote)

Unknown - Rathji, Girly, Diss, Aeneas.

I think that is everyone, let me know if I missed something. GGG seems to be the only one who doesn't actually have to 'use' his power.

[Wood]

Almost certain town: Me, Drury, Starseed, Puxlut

Likely town: Timbo, HG15

Not sure: Oling (tracker can be a mafia role, helped find serial killer but still no mafia)

Unknown: GGG, Girly, Diss, Rathji, Aeneas, Squiggs

One of the unknowns are the cop. Oling says he tracked Rathji and hints he's town. So either he's town telling the truth and confirming us another townie, or he's lying. Who dies at night *might* help us figure that out

There's not many targets left. I hope our cop has something, just anything, for us to work with. Pretty bad getting all the way to day 5 without a single mafia kill

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Wood

Almost certain town: Me, Drury, Starseed, Puxlut

Likely town: Timbo, HG15

Not sure: Oling (tracker can be a mafia role, helped find serial killer but still no mafia)

Unknown: GGG, Girly, Diss, Rathji, Aeneas, Squiggs

One of the unknowns are the cop. Oling says he tracked Rathji and hints he's town. So either he's town telling the truth and confirming us another townie, or he's lying. Who dies at night *might* help us figure that out

There's not many targets left. I hope our cop has something, just anything, for us to work with. Pretty bad getting all the way to day 5 without a single mafia kill

What do you think of the cop disclosing today. At best its 50/50 that he dies tonight.

[Hockeyguy15]

I would say the cop should only come forward if they have any mafia identified, or if they can identify some of the unknows. There isn't a benefit to reveal if they only have info on dead people and known townies.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Day kill on formulate didn't work because he was Serial Killer and bulletproof. Heck he admitted it.

Starseed's investigation gave him information that Wood was town before the vig reveal. That seemed to work. Again, don't know why we need to look at Wood. Another name thrown out.

You used your power, and while probably redirected or possibly not used on your intended target, it worked and you saw who ECF targeted with his actions.

I think the only reason your saying they don't work now is that we've had 2 kills not work on you fail.

Per mafiascum definition of bulletproof it only protects against nightkills. The definition does not address daykills. Also you became suspicious of me because I relied on Forms confession to say he was the SK. You are now relying on that same confession to prove he is bullet proof.

Anyways this is the end of my defense. The rest of my day today will focus on hunting scum. You guys have decided to lynch me. That is fine. If anyone has any questions that will help them clarify their decision or are on the fence and something I will say could change that either way let me know and I will answer them. Otherwise we can address it tomorrow or in twilight.

I think the mafia has done a beautiful job framing me the last few days with help from formulate. Well played guys. Great work.

[Wood]

If the cop has anything to reveal, id come forward today. If they dont know anytning stay hidden and pray you live through the night. The cop will have 1 more night maybe to investigate before theyre found