10-19-2014, 01:05 AM
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All I am going to say is it should be Calgary. No other fan base deserves it but us. We just barely had our first top 5 pick in franchise history. I think it is our turn to get a 1st round OA pick.
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10-19-2014, 01:33 AM
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#22
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Powerplay Quarterback
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All I know is, we will end up with someone super talented in the top 3 (unless Toronto wins it and pushes us down to fourth where we select a bust.. In which case I swear off sports in general and dedicate my life to proving conspiracy theories are real). I'm not hell bent on McDavid; sure, it would be amazing and I know I'd buy a jersey and love to goad the fact our first overall holds more value than edmontons combined over rival fans ..
But I'd rather see more of what we saw last year, a team that may not be great, but doesn't quit and is fun to watch.
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10-19-2014, 02:21 AM
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#23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
All I am going to say is it should be Calgary. No other fan base deserves it but us. We just barely had our first top 5 pick in franchise history. I think it is our turn to get a 1st round OA pick.
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That's not how the draft works though. It's not an all-star game
4th overall was enough of an indignity
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10-19-2014, 03:49 AM
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#24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
That's not how the draft works though. It's not an all-star game
4th overall was enough of an indignity
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Never said that that's how it works. It would just be nice to be rewarded hard effort for a change rather than teams tanking. Obviously, hard work ethic > McDavid, but it'd be great to have both.
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10-19-2014, 04:30 AM
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#25
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Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda
Well Edmonton had the luck of getting all three of their picks in relatively weak draft years, and I would think they'd only interfere if there was a golden opportunity to strengthen a big market (Crosby to Pittsburgh in a hidden lottery, Kane to Chicago with terrible odds). If no big name markets are in the lottery this year I don't think they do anything, but wouldn't be surprised whatsoever to see the odds turn strange if one is
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Hidden from whom? The general public. It is a well known and oft repeated fact that the 2005 draft lottery was overseen by a well respected accounting firm, and personally attended by representatives from every team in the NHL.
There is and never has been any draft lottery conspiracy. A significant number of NHL teams simply would not stand for it.
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10-19-2014, 04:33 AM
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#26
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Acerbic Cyberbully
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Originally Posted by Hugh Jahrmes
All I know is, we will end up with someone super talented in the top 3 (unless Toronto wins it and pushes us down to fourth where we select a bust...
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I don't think Calgary will even end up in the top three. They certainly will be better than Buffalo, Florida, and Carolina, and it is looking likely that they will be better than Edmonton and perhaps even Winnipeg or Toronto as well.
It's early, but all of these teams are really, really terrible.
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10-19-2014, 05:49 AM
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#27
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Calgary, Bettman thanks Murray Edwards for his work with the CBA negotiations.
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10-19-2014, 06:17 AM
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#28
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re: Toronto
living around it now and forced to listen to talk radio on travels. I am pretty sure that this environment would ruin any gift thrust upon Leafs. N.Y. can have similar effect for different reasons. They are no good as isn't this thread.
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10-19-2014, 06:28 AM
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#29
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
Hidden from whom? The general public. It is a well known and oft repeated fact that the 2005 draft lottery was overseen by a well respected accounting firm, and personally attended by representatives from every team in the NHL.
There is and never has been any draft lottery conspiracy. A significant number of NHL teams simply would not stand for it.
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I don't believe that is completely true so I'm asking for a link.
My understanding is that the bottom six teams got to watch. I remember when the teams were called as their draft order came up that Darryl was dissappointed when Calgary was called (26th?) and Lowe had a big grin on his face until the Oilers were called next.
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10-19-2014, 06:44 AM
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Acerbic Cyberbully
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Originally Posted by Vulcan
I don't believe that is completely true so I'm asking for a link.
My understanding is that the bottom six teams got to watch. I remember when the teams were called as their draft order came up that Darryl was dissappointed when Calgary was called (26th?) and Lowe had a big grin on his face until the Oilers were called next.
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Originally Posted by cbc.ca
"The actual lottery took place behind a closed-door gathering with NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly, representatives from the accounting firm Ernst and Young and a representative from each of the 30 teams."
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http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/peng...ttery-1.559504
The reason why GMs were surprised by the results was because they were not the reps. present for the actual lottery itself. The lottery took place at NHL head offices following a BoG meeting, and I believe that the attendees were the actual Governors or their own representatives.
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10-19-2014, 06:46 AM
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#31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Da_Chief
Calgary, Bettman thanks Murray Edwards for his work with the CBA negotiations.
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This, not to mention Calgary taking in Brian Burke and providing him a place in hockey. Also we deserve a big thank you from the league for all the work Harley Hotchkiss did with the Board of Governors.
Calgary gets the conspiracy theory lottery win.
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10-19-2014, 08:23 AM
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#32
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Scoring Winger
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Arizona gets the pick. League moves the team to Ontario.
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10-19-2014, 08:45 AM
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#33
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Franchise Player
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We get McDavid of course.
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10-19-2014, 09:02 AM
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I always get a chuckle out of the conspiracy posters about the draft. Do you guys really think the other owners and GMs would just sit there and let that happen? They would all have their big name lawyers out , demanding action against the NHL, if they thought something was a skew.
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10-19-2014, 09:24 AM
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#35
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Franchise Player
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Wake up sheeple! Carolina's team is the hurricanes. Hurricanes have an eye. You know what else has an eye? The Illuminati!
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10-19-2014, 10:17 AM
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#36
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Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
...For the record though I think it is bunk.
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I am totally confused now...
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10-19-2014, 10:48 AM
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#37
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Appealing my suspension
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Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda
I don't think the league would put it's next big superstar in such a small market. Ditto for Arizona, but the Coyotes seem to be Bettman's personal pet so maybe he has the final call
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How big is Pittsburgh? It's been in a recession since like the first world War because of the steel mills closing. Saving a franchise seems to trump market placement. Even with Kane, how was Chicago drawing before him and Toews showed up?
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10-19-2014, 11:09 AM
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#38
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Acerbic Cyberbully
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylvanfan
How big is Pittsburgh? It's been in a recession since like the first world War because of the steel mills closing. Saving a franchise seems to trump market placement. Even with Kane, how was Chicago drawing before him and Toews showed up?
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Of course, all of this presumes that the NHL selected the draft destinations for these players beforehand, which is nonsense.
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10-19-2014, 11:29 AM
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#39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Of course, all of this presumes that the NHL selected the draft destinations for these players beforehand, which is nonsense.
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Which is why the thread is titled conspiracy theory with a disclaimer at the front. It's fun to speculate what-if's, and you have to admit that a few players in recent years have landed exactly where they "should" have been for the benefit of the league
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10-19-2014, 02:50 PM
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#40
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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It's going to be Ottawa.
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