CP Mafia 3 - Super Smash Mafia - GAME OVER - Darkness Win!

[mrkajz44]

Originally Posted by Puxlut

Dtf!!!

I lol'd

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Puxlut

I think I would ask questions to help bring out conversations to help decide what to do with my powers.
If I had the power of a twilight thread, how would I use it the best? Say: "Hey guys, welcome to my thread. Let's talk about the game for another 15 minutes right after we lynched somebody!" That wouldn't be helpful. Why not do something that would get the bad guys scratching their heads? They have the upper hand and can communicate with each other.
If they know that starseed can talk to someone (if he can...), they will likely kill him at night anyways. So why would we waste a lynch on someone that will likely die anyways? Like I said: I would rather give a person the chance to prove themselves right, than bully them into falling on a sword and killing another town member. We can't afford it.
I don't want to spend much more time focusing on one person. If there is NEW info... great! But I don't want to see the same stuff being brought up over and over again.

You sure are going hard to protect starseed. If he flips scum and I think he will rest assured you will be going shortly after.

Vote: starseed

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by GGG

When I read your post it seems like you have 100% belief in what Puxlut says? Compared to posts about other players your certainty seems higher.

Is this intentional or am I reading something into your response that isn't there?

Also how were you and Druy looking at roles together.

I had the same problem as you, I can't see mafiascum from work so I asked Drury to help me so we could look together.

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpos...postcount=1801

I believe Puxlut when she says she doesn't have the spell. And even if she did and she deflected stuff that she thought would happen to her onto Doctor ECF? That would be pretty dumb. I think the possibility of that is really low.

[Mazrim]

Can you guys see the wiki link I put in the OP at work? It's not mafiascum...

[starseed]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Starseed what do you mean by with Delgar taking a bullet it has bought you more time to be out in the open?

And why reveal now when you were in no danger of being lynched? You said you have become a distraction, I assume you mean the MOT stuff but your long confusing post is more distracting than that. Maybe it's just me and I have poor reading comprehension today but honestly most of that post seemed like rambling to me.

If the mafia risk going after me, they will let the doctor survive one more night.

The days are not as long as they seem, focusing on me will distract from going after the mafia. My thought process was that the investigative roles would not need to waste a night on me as well. Which could have happened, as I was becoming the flavour of the day.

Originally Posted by GirlySports

1. Timing of reveal: Formulate asked what the vote count was. At the time of the reveal it was Starseed 4, GGG 3, Girly 1. That's very early in the day and hardly a cause for concern.

2. Timing of MOT: Timbo makes a good point about the the timing of the MOTs. If they are players it's too difficult to make sure the right players are online at the time of hammer. The hammer could be anytime. I hammered early on Day 1 and everyone must have been scrambling. Even if they are observers, the timing is still quiet difficult. Also MOT says we played like crap, that sounds like an observer.

3. Off the GGG trail: how easily we are influenced. Every time the vote gets close to the hammer there is a reveal. Now the vote is not even close and there is a reveal. Why are there reveals earlier and earlier? Because they work. Everyone moves away and then yet another people has to reveal. Day 2 was a disaster, there were 4 reveals. We're barely into Day 3 and there have been 2 reveals. Are they true? Is the poison even true? The only thing that wasn't revealed that we know of is that Delgar was the bodygaurd and his served his purpose by NOT revealing. Thank you Delgar!

1. I felt like we had issues with coming up to deadlines and wasting time talking about irrelevant things. I wanted to head that off as early as possible. I feel like I have some good targets, and want to get the town thinking about them.

2. I get a PM from Mazrim ahead of a lynch with the link to the thread. I can then be prepared for when it goes down. It just happened to be that the both of us were there at the same time. Luckily, I am in the ET zone, and the lynches have happened while I was home. The hmmhmm lynch came as I was on the computer pretending to study. The RD lynch happened close to the deadline iirc.

3. I agree that revealing is not healthy, which is why I took time to think about it, and I still think it was for the best. I have insisted that MOT2 remain hidden.

Originally Posted by mrkajz44

1) What is the "extra vote" that is talked about? I cannot find clarity on that. I do not believe it was the extra votes on Matt and ECF because they are / were both members of the eternals and that is just too much of a coincidence.

2) Still not sure I understand this "beyond the grave" thing either. I checked mafiascum and the corner power is usually limited to use in games with limited informaiton on the flips, but we have full disclosure on the flips. So I don't think that's the power. I guess what I'm saying is I don't understand the power

1- We get an extra vote which we set at night for the next day. Day one we set it for devo, day two we set it for Delgar. We did not get any message stating that it was redirected or anything else related to the vote.

2 - It is just to determine which faction killed the victim we target.


The messages asking about the MOTs and the town list were attempts to throw off mafia suspicion that I was a MOT. I PM'd MOT2 right after and essentially said that when I mentioned GGG was on my town list, I was actually leaning the other way based on the exact reasons I laid out in my post. I said that maybe I'm not paranoid.

GGG is hard to figure out. This is why I kept stressing that the MOTs had no special information about them, and that we merely wanted people to apply pressure to the people on our list. For those of you who have a transcript, you will see that reiterated both days. We said we merely have suspicions.

[Mazrim]

Vote Count:

With 16 alive, it takes 9 votes on any one player to hammer. It takes 6 votes to deadline lynch.

Hasn’t Voted (6): squiggs96, Rathji, GGG, Puxlut, Wood, East Coast Flame

Voted:
starseed (6): mrkajz44, Aeneas, Oling_Roachinen, Timbo, Hockeyguy15, dissentowner
GGG (2): Drury18, GirlySports
East Coast Flame (1):
GirlySports (1): formulate
Oling_Roachinen (1): starseed

The deadline is Tuesday, October 14th at 10:00 PM Mountain Time. Hammer cannot be dropped before Friday, October 10th at 10:00 PM Mountain Time.

[starseed]

Oh, and someone mentioned that I tried to ask someone about powers. I was asking Rathji about the redirect, because I suspected that our vote got redirected onto gpmatt. Rathji mentioned that someone redirected his action (which was nothing) to gpmatt.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by starseed

If the mafia risk going after me, they will let the doctor survive one more night.

Assuming you are town, why would they? You have done the most damage by causing the most confusion. You've been deceitful with the MOT, both by straight up saying it could be mafia and by suggesting that the MOT aren't even playing the game (under their personas). Is this going to be another girlysports excuse of trying to confuse the mafia?....

They wont be the ones to kill you, they wouldn't want to reveal what you said has any truth, if (big if) you are town.

This just seems like another ploy. "Don't kill me, the mafia will do it and we can give the doctor another night" while at the same time hoping the doctor targets you to protect and your mafia buddies can kill who you want.

And are we to believe you and your partner are not coordinating lists before the portal opens up? Come on. If you are town, that's a terrible use of one of your many amazing abilities. Saying GGG is town, while using the portal to shift focus on him is what was happening. Lying about the ability to talk to the dead by dressing it up as "adding flavour" now and using the order of reveals, despite Mazrim posting that there was no risk, as evidence of mafia behaviour. None of that adds up.

[starseed]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Assuming you are town, why would they? You have done the most damage by causing the most confusion. You've been deceitful with the MOT, both by straight up saying it could be mafia and by suggesting that the MOT aren't even playing the game (under their personas). Is this going to be another girlysports excuse of trying to confuse the mafia?....

They wont be the ones to kill you, they wouldn't want to reveal what you said has any truth, if (big if) you are town.

This just seems like another ploy. "Don't kill me, the mafia will do it and we can give the doctor another night" while at the same time hoping the doctor targets you to protect and your mafia buddies can kill who you want.

And are we to believe you and your partner are not coordinating lists before the portal opens up? Come on. If you are town, that's a terrible use of one of your many amazing abilities. Saying GGG is town, while using the portal to shift focus on him is what was happening. Lying about the ability to talk to the dead by dressing it up as "adding flavour" now and using the order of reveals, despite Mazrim posting that there was no risk, as evidence of mafia behaviour. None of that adds up.

I have no idea how you come to some of the conclusions you do. There is a reason Delgar and GPMatt (both confirmed townies) have called you out on misrepresenting them and trying to mould the narrative to convince others. You have been very useful for the mafia, but I suspect they know by now that you will be going down after me.

Thus, I recommend tomorrow that the town ignore which people have supported oling or worked against him except maybe in the early part of the game.

[Drury18]

With 10 minutes left to make a decision, I have sent a message through Mazrim to the Guardians rejecting their membership offer.

I thought of ignoring it completely, however I was concerned they may take no answer as acceptance. I chose to simply send a message back saying I reject their membership offer.

[Drury18]

unvote

Vote: starseed

My vote is simply based on the fact that after GP_Matt (first Eternal) died, the Eternal invites stopped. Perhaps when Starseed dies, the Guardian invites stop.

[starseed]

1.Timbo
2.Oling
3.HG

My mafia list. I think at least 2 of 3 are correct. I do not feel as confident as when I correctly identified all three barrow mafia before my last exit, but I have a good feeling :P

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Assuming you are town, why would they? You have done the most damage by causing the most confusion. You've been deceitful with the MOT, both by straight up saying it could be mafia and by suggesting that the MOT aren't even playing the game (under their personas). Is this going to be another girlysports excuse of trying to confuse the mafia?....

They wont be the ones to kill you, they wouldn't want to reveal what you said has any truth, if (big if) you are town.

This just seems like another ploy. "Don't kill me, the mafia will do it and we can give the doctor another night" while at the same time hoping the doctor targets you to protect and your mafia buddies can kill who you want.

And are we to believe you and your partner are not coordinating lists before the portal opens up? Come on. If you are town, that's a terrible use of one of your many amazing abilities. Saying GGG is town, while using the portal to shift focus on him is what was happening. Lying about the ability to talk to the dead by dressing it up as "adding flavour" now and using the order of reveals, despite Mazrim posting that there was no risk, as evidence of mafia behaviour. None of that adds up.

You are the most condescending/arrogant person ever!

I see what starseed and others have said about manipulating what people say to make them look bad. You did it with Delgar and you're doing it with starseed. I would have to look back, but you likely did it with Matt too.
Vote: Oling_Roachinen

I'm not supporting starseed, I just don't like how he keyholes players into looking like mafia. It just rubs me the wrong way. And I'm sure I'll be the next target that he picks apart my posts and then puts it back together to make me look bad.

[squiggs96]

Originally Posted by Puxlut

The only person I trust 100% is wood.

Originally Posted by Puxlut

Dtf!!!

Pika does not think these posts are unrelated.

My updated guess list:

Town:
1. Drury18
2. Timbo

Mafia:
1. Starseed - Everything about the MOT confuses me
2. Dissentower - Was the first to come out and ask people to reveal characters
3. Puxlut - Just a gut feeling.

Pika's last list of suspected mafia had GP and Delgar, and unfortunately both flipped town. Starseed was the other person on my list so I am continuing to think that I couldn't be wrong on all three.

No clue:
1. ECF

Pika is really suspicious that his action didn't go through last night, unless it did. ECF could be lying and didn't actually use his night action, leading me to believe he is mafia. ECF has supported me, which I like, although it hasn't been a popular decision. Pika is suspicious of the only person that supports chu.

Completely off the wall thought that has stuck with me since the game started:
One reason I didn't want to reveal on day one is I was trying to see patterns of people that if they talked or acted in certain ways they could be identified as town. Pika noted on the initial posts that both Girly and starseed were the only two who put the exact phrase "super smash bros". Starseed mentioned the Wii, Oling said he played smash on the N64, mrkajz44 said he played smash on the cube. Maybe I'm seeing things that aren't there, but I thought it was odd.

vote starseed

[Wood]

Originally Posted by Puxlut

Alot of good questions! I was wondering why she trusted me too? The only person I trust 100% is wood.

Originally Posted by Puxlut

Dtf!!!

Anyone else find it suspicious these 2 comments were posted back to back?

[Drury18]

Well, I'll never be able to play Mario Brothers again without that coming up.

Explains all the Peach kidnappings though.

You want some mad turtle sex?

Nsfw

NSFW!

Originally Posted by Mazrim

Can you guys see the wiki link I put in the OP at work? It's not mafiascum...

What is the difference between the 2? Is this a way for Mazrim to point to someone that is trying give false info?