10-09-2014, 08:20 AM
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#1741
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15
My point still stands, you made a death pact knowing that you could not be lynched and it was a stupid thing to do if you are town.
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And i stated it was stupid 10 minutes later.
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10-09-2014, 08:20 AM
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#1742
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wood
That, or they're logged in to their mafia chat
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Good point didn't think of that.
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10-09-2014, 08:22 AM
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#1743
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Franchise Player
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While this star conversation was going on in the twilight thread Mazrim did make a point to step in to say that anyone that previously posted with Quicktopic would have a star and don't overthink it.
I doubt Mazrim is openly protecting one side over another.
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10-09-2014, 08:25 AM
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#1744
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Link to what a star means
www.quicktopic.com/faq.shtml
Its outside the game though so could mean a lot of things.
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10-09-2014, 08:28 AM
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#1745
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Powerplay Quarterback
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So...I did indeed poison GGG....and it failed. I don't know why.
Props to Delgar if he did take a bullet for me. I owe you one bro.
Also possible that my save worked as well.
As for last night - I logged in after getting home from the game to check if I had died and I was a couple heroin beers deep so I figured it would be best not to post.
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10-09-2014, 08:31 AM
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#1746
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mazrim
Hello Townsfolk! The gift of Eternal powers are a contrived deceit.
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Your poison didn't work ECF?
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10-09-2014, 08:33 AM
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#1747
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Franchise Player
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Guardians appear to give the real power (although that's based on GGG of all people using his).
Eternals appear to give a fake power and an extra vote...I don't know if we have any other choice but to use our lynch on GGG considering everything now.
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10-09-2014, 08:36 AM
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#1748
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Yes it looks like a fake power and I get a vote on me instead. Good times.
Vote: GGG
#### this guy
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10-09-2014, 08:39 AM
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#1749
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First Line Centre
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So GGG is unkillable?
Can't be lynched, can't be poisoned. Good thing he pushed so hard for me to use my kill (I would have used it regardless on Matt)
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10-09-2014, 08:41 AM
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#1750
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GGG
I would assume that Delgar targeted ECF to protect the doctor.
I became a member of the guardians (got the msg right before lynch but didn't have a chance to post) in exchange for a tracker power. I set my tracker power to puxlut. My investigation returned that ECF visited two people myself and one other person. I assume he poisoned me and protected the other person.
I will let ECF confirm that he poisoned me though.
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This doesn't make any sense - how does you tracking Puxlut give you all this info?
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10-09-2014, 08:41 AM
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#1751
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First Line Centre
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Good to know Matt wasn't truly unlynchable. Id like my kill back lol
I'm bitter
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10-09-2014, 08:42 AM
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#1752
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wood
So GGG is unkillable?
Can't be lynched, can't be poisoned. Good thing he pushed so hard for me to use my kill (I would have used it regardless on Matt)
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Unkillable or full of something.
I am still not comfortable with the potential of wasting a lynch on him.
Are we assuming ECF is the doctor? There is still the possibility he is bluffing. No offense ECF, but your 'poison' didn't work and you didn't get night killed. Maybe I am overthinking it but it seems a little off to me.
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10-09-2014, 08:43 AM
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#1753
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Deep South
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Drury18
While this star conversation was going on in the twilight thread Mazrim did make a point to step in to say that anyone that previously posted with Quicktopic would have a star and don't overthink it.
I doubt Mazrim is openly protecting one side over another.
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I've really been mulling over the star thing in the chat. I know that Mazrim came in and said not to over think it, but then why step in at all. If the stars were truely not a sign of mafia, I don't see why Mazrim would say anything. The intervention, to me, makes it more likely that the theory is true (mafia had a star on their name as they were previously logged in from the mafia chat).
Let me preface this by saying I think Mazrim's got a great game going for us so far (Thanks Mazrim!), but the frantic feelings of the twilight chats can make someone say something on a whim, even our CP gamemater. I don't think Mazrim was trying to protect one side or the other intentionally, but may have done so accidently.
If the stars mean nothing, then Mazrim's comment would help the town out (by not misleading us). If the stars are indicitive of mafia, then Mazrim's comment would help out the mafia. Either way, one side was benefited by the comment. Again, I am not saying Mazrim did it intentionally to help one side or the other.
I'm going to run back and read over Timbo and Starseed’s game sometime today (from the beginning) and see how mafia-slanted their actions are. I realize the stars may be a red herring, but I feel like I have nothing else to go on at this point.
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10-09-2014, 08:44 AM
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#1754
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wood
So GGG is unkillable?
Can't be lynched, can't be poisoned. Good thing he pushed so hard for me to use my kill (I would have used it regardless on Matt)
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That's if we believe he is lynchproof. And even if he is, how do we get rid of him now?
GGG obviously was able to track ECF. He claims it's from Guardians, is it a possibility that's his real power though? Claims he is poisoned, says we can't lynch him. Then tomorrow he shows up alive and we all blame ECF for GGG not dying or something?
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10-09-2014, 08:46 AM
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#1755
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First Line Centre
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It looks like Delgar took the bullet for ECF
Well we can go after GGG. Either he's mafia and he dies, or if he lives we can confirm him as a townie
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10-09-2014, 08:49 AM
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#1756
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wood
It looks like Delgar took the bullet for ECF
Well we can go after GGG. Either he's mafia and he dies, or if he lives we can confirm him as a townie
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Even then, can we? What if his real gift from the Guardians was being lynch proof like GP_Matt received (thought he received?). Unless a lynch reveals his alignment regardless, I don't know if we can take GGG's word for anything regardless of what happens now.
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10-09-2014, 08:49 AM
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#1757
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CP Gamemaster
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: The Gary
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I asked everyone not to overthink the star thing because of how many people have used Quicktopics in previous games (Mafia thread, dead topics, etc) . It doesn't take long to log in initially (if this is your first time seeing Quicktopic), and you don't have to log in to post either, so there's no guarantee that a Star equates to guilt. I don't normally step in to say stuff like this, but it's outside the game and another layer of meta gaming that isn't supposed to be part of this game. So again...don't overthink it, and I'd rather we focus on the game itself than something like this.
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10-09-2014, 08:53 AM
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#1758
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First Line Centre
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An unlynchable mafia is an invincible player
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10-09-2014, 08:53 AM
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#1759
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Deep South
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mazrim
I asked everyone not to overthink the star thing because of how many people have used Quicktopics in previous games (Mafia thread, dead topics, etc) . It doesn't take long to log in initially (if this is your first time seeing Quicktopic), and you don't have to log in to post either, so there's no guarantee that a Star equates to guilt. I don't normally step in to say stuff like this, but it's outside the game and another layer of meta gaming that isn't supposed to be part of this game. So again...don't overthink it, and I'd rather we focus on the game itself than something like this.
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You know what - I hadn't really thought of it this way until now. This is sort of using 3rd party information for guilt / innocence, which is against the rules.
I will back off on this and focus back on the thread here at CP only. Thanks for the guidance Mazrim, and sorry for breaking / bending some of the rules a few times already in this game (first time, please don't hate me!)
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10-09-2014, 08:54 AM
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#1760
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wood
So GGG is unkillable?
Can't be lynched, can't be poisoned. Good thing he pushed so hard for me to use my kill (I would have used it regardless on Matt)
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This is what I was thinking about driving the kid to school.
There is a Deathproof in the mafia game. http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Deathproof
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In almost all cases, Deathproof is either One-Shot or a trait of roles that only loosely qualify as players (i.e. Tree Stump).
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If you look further, it says this role is only in ####### mod games: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=#######_mod
Looking at the description, I think this might be the game on our hands here:
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The moderator lies to players, either in their Role PMs (as in False roles) or in their revealed information (as in Death Miller).
The game incorporates significant game-changing mechanics (Cult being a notorious example) that affects players who may not know about them.
The game incorporates roles that are inconvenient to play with, such as Voteless or Suicidal.
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