CP Mafia 3 - Super Smash Mafia - GAME OVER - Darkness Win!

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by formulate

What are you thinking, Wood? If you can East Coast Flame can agree on something, having 2 all-but-confirmed townies would mean an untainted opinion.

Going back and reading his posts a bit, he seems to be playing the "super townie" as cover. Here he defers the vote to 'known' townies. Starseed did the exact same thing last game when he was mafia.

Originally Posted by formulate

It's becoming tough to sift through the posts with various theories and accusations. I believe there is a lot to be gained from a couple cardflips. Having more information will make looking back at suspicions and voting history more meaningful. It's still likely around 2-1 that we'll lynch town today, unfortunate as that is. Hopefully the two night kills were a one time thing, or even better, we get some mafia-mafia or mafia-serial killer crossfire.

As for today's lynch, if you guys are uncomfortable with hmmhmmcamo, I don't mind squiggs based on a decent chance of flipping mafia and hopefully good info from a flip. Girlysports is another one I'd support because her posting is hard to nail down and it would also hopefully provide good info.

I'm gonna stick with hmmhmm because I trust him the least, but will jump over to another bandwagon if squiggs or girly gets more support.

Expressing he hopes the mafia dies at night, as though not every townie is hoping that. The way he's willing to do what everyone else thinks is best.

He's jumped on the ECF bandwagon, he expressed the desire for the vig to kill GP_Matt. (Not that he's the only one guilty of this)

He's played a pretty good under the radar game, if he is mafia (or the serial killer if he exists). Just seems to go with the flow while saying how we need to work together to defeat the mafia. Haven't gone through his entire post history, but I don't know if he has done any action where he could get 'blood' on his hands for it.

[Drury18]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Going back and reading his posts a bit, he seems to be playing the "super townie" as cover. Here he defers the vote to 'known' townies. Starseed did the exact same thing last game when he was mafia.

Oddly enough, neither of those names were on his own suspected townie list.

Originally Posted by formulate

formulate's list of suspected townies:

1. Dissentower: Has been on a GP_Matt crusade for a number of real time days. Looking back, crusaders almost always flipped town. Last game? Strombad (town) on activestick, Flameswin (town) on CBL. Legoman (town) on completely.

2. Oling: One of the more pressing players in the game. Difficult to investigate that thoroughly without slipping up.

3. Timbo: Very thorough in logic as well. This one may be just a vibe I get or perhaps that we had that Rathji brainwave...

GGG is up in the air for me as his post style is hard to nail down. He certainly thinks the game at a high level, which is almost concerning at times because I believe he'd make a great scum.

[starseed]

Havent caught up reading, just a couple quick thoughts.

The star beside my name is because I am logged in when I enter that site because I was mafia last game.

Delgar - I am sorry!! It was a bad call, but you bought us some time. Only one townie kill because you likely took 2 bullets to save the doctor.

I am not sure if it is time for me to costanza it, or keep looking into oling.

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by GGG

Rathji. When your action was redirected to GP Matt did it specifically say it was redirected? With mine I asked to track puxlut and it returned with info on ECF. It seems like two different things happened here.

Yes it said redirected

[starseed]

Starting to agree with oling on formulate.

MOTs stressed they have no extra info, and their opinions weren't strong.

I feel like Drury is the eternals leader? Maybe the eternals leader is mafia?

[Hockeyguy15]

So GGG leads the charge on not joining a group, then joins a group. Even if you are town that's a pretty scum thing to do.

Thoughts on only 1 night kill last night. If the mafia and the other killer from day 1 both targeted ECF and delgar saved him then that would mean that the other killer is not part of the town, otherwise there would be no reason to target ECF.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

So GGG leads the charge on not joining a group, then joins a group. Even if you are town that's a pretty scum thing to do.

Thoughts on only 1 night kill last night. If the mafia and the other killer from day 1 both targeted ECF and delgar saved him then that would mean that the other killer is not part of the town, otherwise there would be no reason to target ECF.

And I clearly changed my mind yesterday to state I would join. No one objected to it then.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by GGG

And I clearly changed my mind yesterday to state I would join. No one objected to it then.

Can you save me the time and give me the post number please?

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Drury18

Or perhaps GGG, could you explain why when you had your vote on Squiggs, you were more then happy to set up the hammer time and Twilight time for hmmhmmcamo's death? You couldn't wait to get him killed and flipped and onto the next day, but your vote sat with Squiggs at that time.

Or, you know, telling us numerous times to reject invites from the group or be lynches, then to ignore the groups and even conned the whole group of us into posting lists and then going off and joining a group?
And then your sudden change of heart to completely remove all suspicions from the groups:

The bolded does not make sense. How did I con people into posting lists. No one had to do it. I did, people followed suit because they agreed it would help.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Can you save me the time and give me the post number please?

I linked the post in post 1706.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by GGG

I defended bizaro when everyone wanted to lynch him and i will defend gp who has no case against him outside of joining the eternals. Much better options to consider.

No got on my girly train so i moved to a more palatable target in baxter who has now asked to be replaced. If GP matt flips scum then by all means lynch me tomorrow. There are better people to lynch and we need to quit the whole cult thing.

So you tell us to lynch you if Matt flips scum, but yet NOW you are lynchproof?

If you are town and actually lynchproof then why would you even bother saying to lynch you, knowing full well that we can't lynch you. Lynching is pretty much our only way to kill (minus Woods kill you told us to use, and ECF's poison if he isn't lying) and you want us to waste one on someone who is lynchproof?

I don't know if your town playing a horrible game at the moment, or if you are scum just claiming lynchproof. Right now it seems that role/power reveals are all the range and I don't like it.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

So you tell us to lynch you if Matt flips scum, but yet NOW you are lynchproof?

If you are town and actually lynchproof then why would you even bother saying to lynch you, knowing full well that we can't lynch you. Lynching is pretty much our only way to kill (minus Woods kill you told us to use, and ECF's poison if he isn't lying) and you want us to waste one on someone who is lynchproof?

I don't know if your town playing a horrible game at the moment, or if you are scum just claiming lynchproof. Right now it seems that role/power reveals are all the range and I don't like it.

I believe my next post I made explains it. I was upset around the diss's accusations so foolishly challenged him to a death pact knowing it wouldn't affect me. The next post I said as much but you seem to ignore it.

Originally Posted by GGG

That's probably true. And I shouldn't engage in death pact like threats as they don't benefit anyone. What I should say is I am certainly prepared to account for and defend my posts and my votes tomorrow including the last minute defense of GP_matt should he flip scum.

As for role reveals this is going to be typical of every role based game we play. Of course mafia is going to claim things that make us step back and we have to lynch through it.

However before lynching me let ECF confirm that he poisoned me. I was wrong about him being scum. And that will confirm I will die anyway unless someone has a cure.

I think my behaviour has been logical for the most part and my only misplay was posting too much because I didn't care if people suspected me.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Drury18

For those in the twlight thread and those who missed it, did the MOT's not clearly say to stop getting lead around? We are letting the scum lead us around.

Stop to think for a moment whose done the most leading/directing in this game to the end of Day 2? Whose coordinated hammer times, whose asked to post lists of scum/town, whose changed voting directions, whose taken the focus off of suspects, whose told us to hold off on the hammer to let people reveal, who took the focus off of groups, who ordered GP_Matt's death?

And how many dead townies do we now have as a result of that person "leading" us?

Interesting enough on his list he brings up the ways we can kill him. It seems like he was trying to get us to waste our kills so we can't use them on him.

Originally Posted by GGG

Top 3 scum

East Coast flame
I do not buy the doctor claim.
He posted lots without saying anything
He has a night kill to use, this is high risk for us to allow to keep it. Might be better for the town to redirect both the kill and protection to someone else if we don't lynch.

Girlysports
The belief that a quick/surprise lynch favours town as early as post 263
The slowly evolving story of her decline of the guardians
Lack of scum hunting

Mmmmmmhmmm/ Baxter - absolutely no contribution, infrequent poster. Probably one scum amoung Squiggs, baxter, and hmmm. Any of these inactives would be great for a VIG kill.

Top 3 town

Timbo - constant scum hunting active poster
Oling - drawn out detailed posts, active scum hunter
Dhury18 - even though he suspects me logic has been sound, active poster

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by GGG

I believe my next post I made explains it. I was upset around the diss's accusations so foolishly challenged him to a death pact knowing it wouldn't affect me. The next post I said as much but you seem to ignore it.



As for role reveals this is going to be typical of every role based game we play. Of course mafia is going to claim things that make us step back and we have to lynch through it.

However before lynching me let ECF confirm that he poisoned me. I was wrong about him being scum. And that will confirm I will die anyway unless someone has a cure.

I think my behaviour has been logical for the most part and my only misplay was posting too much because I didn't care if people suspected me.

My point still stands, you made a death pact knowing that you could not be lynched and it was a stupid thing to do if you are town.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by GGG

However before lynching me let ECF confirm that he poisoned me. I was wrong about him being scum. And that will confirm I will die anyway unless someone has a cure.

I think my behaviour has been logical for the most part and my only misplay was posting too much because I didn't care if people suspected me.

No you don't get it, we can't afford to even try and lynch you. You claim you are lynchproof, and we can't waste a lynch to find out if you are telling the truth or not.

If anyone else claims to be lynchproof I call BS right now, there is no way so many people can be lynchproof.

[Wood]

Originally Posted by starseed

Havent caught up reading, just a couple quick thoughts.

The star beside my name is because I am logged in when I enter that site because I was mafia last game.

Delgar - I am sorry!! It was a bad call, but you bought us some time. Only one townie kill because you likely took 2 bullets to save the doctor.

I am not sure if it is time for me to costanza it, or keep looking into oling.

It's not the greatest info to try and lynch off of, but Im keeping it in mind

The thing is I was logged in all last game too, so we're formulate and a few others in the chat. Why not now? I'm using the same device I did then. Also Timbo would have had to re-register or change his user name because it was Timbo-Mr Game and Watch. Who would go through the effort of changing their name in the chat thread with a time limit and important info? Timbo also missed the first MOT chat so he had to do that last night before posting in the chat

[Wood]

ECF was reading the thread for about 20 minutes last night after GGG claimed he poisoned him. Not sure why he wouldn't come confirm that

It could have possibly been redirected. GGG could just be claiming it was redirected

Either way, it's best we just ignore GGG today and see if he dies at night. If not we lynch him day 4

[GGG]

The star means they are registered users in Quicktopic so they can't do the name change thing. Google Quicktopic star beside name and it explains it.

They are likely the MOTs and used two logged in accounts to try to not let us trace them back by posting players in twilight.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Wood

ECF was reading the thread for about 20 minutes last night after GGG claimed he poisoned him. Not sure why he wouldn't come confirm that

It could have possibly been redirected. GGG could just be claiming it was redirected

Either way, it's best we just ignore GGG today and see if he dies at night. If not we lynch him day 4

I agree with this approach. I will be posting my theories though. Feel free to ignore and revisit one i am dead

[Wood]

Originally Posted by GGG

The star means they are registered users in Quicktopic so they can't do the name change thing. Google Quicktopic star beside name and it explains it.

They are likely the MOTs and used two logged in accounts to try to not let us trace them back by posting players in twilight.

That, or they're logged in to their mafia chat