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Old 09-29-2014, 05:13 PM   #81
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He had a great rookie campaign and has regressed the past two years, so I wouldn't call it a classic sophomore slump.
Didn't get much of a shot after the lockout. Obviously fell out of favour after the 'regime change' in Colorado... You're right though; it's worrying that he's struggled for 2 seasons now. Although he put up impressive offensive stats with Lake Erie.
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Old 09-29-2014, 05:27 PM   #82
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Wasn't Elliot drafted with the 2nd rounder that we sent to the Avs for Leopold (or someone)?

Oh the irony if we claimed him LOL
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Old 09-29-2014, 05:29 PM   #83
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Teams can put claims on a player until 12pm ET tomorrow.

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Old 09-29-2014, 05:31 PM   #84
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Wasn't Elliot drafted with the 2nd rounder that we sent to the Avs for Leopold (or someone)?

Oh the irony if we claimed him LOL
Flames acquired the pick from Montreal when they traded Tanguay in 2008.

Moved the pick with Nycholat and Wilson for Leopold at the trade deadline.
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Old 09-29-2014, 05:32 PM   #85
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Didn't get much of a shot after the lockout. Obviously fell out of favour after the 'regime change' in Colorado... You're right though; it's worrying that he's struggled for 2 seasons now. Although he put up impressive offensive stats with Lake Erie.
Yea, I wouldn't be opposed to giving him a shot considering our pool of D prospects.

How many contract spots do we have available?
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Old 09-29-2014, 05:34 PM   #86
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How many contract spots do we have available?
5 assuming Bennett, Klimchuk and Kanzig play less than 10 NHL games this season
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5 assuming Bennett, Klimchuk and Kanzig play less than 10 NHL games this season
I remember many years the Flames were at or close to the contract limit. What a lot of dead weight they were carrying!
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Old 09-29-2014, 07:50 PM   #88
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The Flames should definitely go after Stefan Elliott.
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The Flames should definitely go after Stefan Elliott.
Just curious, why are you so emphatic? What did you see from him the ahl that would lead you to claim him?

Serious question and I'm not being snarky. I like your posts and you are respected on the board. If you say claim him, I'm interested in your reasons.
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Absolute no-brainer to pick up Elliott given his age and our pool of D prospects.
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Just curious, why are you so emphatic? What did you see from him the ahl that would lead you to claim him?

Serious question and I'm not being snarky. I like your posts and you are respected on the board. If you say claim him, I'm interested in your reasons.
From my point of view, I see him as likely being one of (if not the highest) potential d-man that will be put on waivers this fall.

The Flames have some contract spots open (while still leaving 2/3 for later in the year) and we need to improve our D prospect pool.
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Old 09-29-2014, 08:03 PM   #92
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I was there at the Vancouver game, and I counted 17 very poor decisions in the first two periods and I wasn't singling him out for scorn. The only time I noticed him was because of a really bad error. He just kept turning the puck over, not making passes when he should have and was basically a mess.

Of all the D-men I've watched over the past week and a bit, he has been at the very bottom and that includes guys like Gedig and the walkons.

He and Hanowski are the two players that have been the biggest disappointments this camp because they should be a lot better than they have been if they want to make the NHL on more than a injury fill in guy type role.

Realistically, both he and Hanowski should have been among the best prospect D-men and forwards because of their age and experience relative to the rest like Ramage was, and they were not.

Things can change, but the clock is ticking....
I completely agree. Cundari has been one of the most underwhelming d-men for us in the preseason. He has been slow making decisions, and has coughed up the puck numerous times in the defensive zone as a result.

Although with that said, I also think Diaz has been no good for many of the same reasons, yet he is still around.
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Old 09-29-2014, 08:06 PM   #93
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Seems like Elliot is seen to be similar to a Del Zotto. Lots of "offensive potential", no progression defensively since being in the league.
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Seems like Elliot is seen to be similar to a Del Zotto. Lots of "offensive potential", no progression defensively since being in the league.
I really wish that we signed Del Zotto as well as claim Elliot.

With the type of defensive prospects we have, it's a worthy risk
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I really wish that we signed Del Zotto as well as claim Elliot.

With the type of defensive prospects we have, it's a worthy risk
Quantity doesn't equal quality. I'm not sure either are going to change the team one way or the other. We need top defensive prospects. Hanifin please!
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Quantity doesn't equal quality. I'm not sure either are going to change the team one way or the other. We need top defensive prospects. Hanifin please!
Well I mean they can't hurt. Plus think of Dep Zotto and his offense from his rookie year actually playing defense!

Unlikely, yes, but possible. But I feel Del Zotto or Elliot at their full potentials would change the team positively.

But still, Hannifin would be great!
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Old 09-29-2014, 08:35 PM   #97
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The only names I could see the Flames being interested in:

TROY BODIE - TOR
6'4" 219lbs RW Shoots R 29 yo 1 yr - $600k
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=71949
http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/...layer.php?3921
Has ties to Ryan Huska, Brad Treliving, and Brian Burke from previous teams. Big, fights, right-handed shot. If the Flames hadn't traded for Bollig they would probably be all over claiming Bodie. If they do, then they clearly want to be patient and send all the young guys to the AHL.


STEFAN ELLIOTT - COL
6'1" 190lbs D Shoots R 23 yo 1 yr - $850k
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=98107
http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/...layer.php?7444
Seems like he could be like Diaz but younger. The Flames scouts should have seen him a lot on the WHL and Colorado and should have a good read on him.

PHILIP SAMUELSSON - PIT
6'2" 198lbs D Shoots L 23 yo1 yr - $550k
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=116570
http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/...layer.php?7431
Flames scouts would have seen him at Boston College, he's big, physical, and young.

CHRIS BUTLER - no way the Flames claim him, if he wanted to play in Calgary he would have signed here. I could maybe see Dallas claiming him if Ruff was a fan of his in Buffalo. They are short on NHL defenceman too. Otherwise he's going to the Wolves.

Ultimately, I'm not sure the Flames will pick up anyone this round as Samuelsson and Elliott probably aren't ready for a top-6 role and won't benefit from being a 7th dman. Bodie doesn't bring much offensively which is what Treliving seems to be looking for and is probably redundant with Bollig here. If Brett Connolly hit waivers I could see that becoming a serious consideration.
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Old 09-29-2014, 08:42 PM   #98
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Elliott would be amazing. I'd be surprised if he slips past Buffalo or Edmonton though.
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Old 09-29-2014, 10:52 PM   #99
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I bet he clears completely and everyone rages.
There's a reason why the Avs are willing to let him go and can't get anything for him on the trade market.

Now that I've said all that the Flames probably will claim him. At which point I'll flip flop and say what an outstanding move it is.

Such is the life of a CP poster.
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Old 09-29-2014, 11:08 PM   #100
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Yeah they are not too high on him on the avs boards. They mention the two wonder moves he pulled off, but nothing more than that. I'm surprised at all the hype honestly
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