YLYL Thread Sexism Discussion (split from Gay Teen thread).

[Barbecue]

Originally Posted by flameswin

The YLYL thread discussion is about more than just that thread, it's also been about the overall tone of posts discussing women and how that affects CP's female posters.

I think we can all agree that these are the types of posts that need to go the way of the dodo for this place to start becoming more inclusive and less repulsive. Yes, I realize it's satire, but it's still being said, and the vulgar terms are still being used, and of course, like always the girl is the subject of the vulgar joke.

Captain Crunch

You've got two artists that are married and going to split up. So what do we get from that? HE got to plow HER, SHE was probably a spicey meatball. SHE's got a whole record of angsty material to write.

Nope nothing about the guy, it's all about the girl and how at least the guy got to "plow" her.

Get rid of this **** and we'll at least have a start, I think.

To be fair, it was about Avril Lavigne and she is more recognized in the public than Chad Kroeger

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Barbecue

To be fair, it was about Avril Lavigne and she is more recognized in the public than Chad Kroeger

Why do you think that?

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Barbecue

To be fair, it was about Avril Lavigne and she is more recognized in the public than Chad Kroeger

So you think CC's post was done because she of her celebrity status and not her gender?

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by Barbecue

To be fair, it was about Avril Lavigne and she is more recognized in the public than Chad Kroeger

And yet Nickleback has sold 20 million more albums than her and is the 2nd best selling foreign act in the US after only the Beatles.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by flameswin

The YLYL thread discussion is about more than just that thread, it's also been about the overall tone of posts discussing women and how that affects CP's female posters.

I think we can all agree that these are the types of posts that need to go the way of the dodo for this place to start becoming more inclusive and less repulsive. Yes, I realize it's satire, but it's still being said, and the vulgar terms are still being used, and of course, like always the girl is the subject of the vulgar joke.

Captain Crunch

You've got two artists that are married and going to split up. So what do we get from that? HE got to plow HER, SHE was probably a spicey meatball. SHE's got a whole record of angsty material to write.

Nope nothing about the guy, it's all about the girl and how at least the guy got to "plow" her.

Get rid of this **** and we'll at least have a start, I think.

Yeah but he's a long time poster and like many long time posters they have their own shtick. You have your 'holier than thou' shtick that rubs people the wrong way as well. I personally don't care if the mods remove his post but how much censorship is too much and some of the people here proposing change aren't exactly great role models themselves. What's the end game? Sure you can remove his posts and posters like him to make things happy for some but there will still be posters like you that take great enjoyment in putting posters on the spot and bullying posters you don't like. That crap is equally uncomfortable for posters and doesn't move this place forward. Kind of pot calling kettle black stuff if you ask me.

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Yeah but he's a long time poster and like many long time posters they have their own shtick. You have your 'holier than thou' shtick that rubs people the wrong way as well. I personally don't care if the mods remove his post but how much censorship is too much and some of the people here proposing change aren't exactly great role models themselves. What's the end game? Sure you can remove his posts and posters like him to make things happy for some but there will still be posters like you that take great enjoyment in putting posters on the spot and bullying posters you don't like. That crap is equally uncomfortable for posters and doesn't move this place forward. Kind of pot calling kettle black stuff if you ask me.

This thread isn't about 'bullying posters'. This thread is about treating women like a second class. If someone puts forth a dumb idea, they should be called on it. But if someone says something discriminatory or rude based on sex alone, they should also be called on it.

Are you trying to say that it's okay to have such rude and disgusting remarks about women because some posters get picked on and we should all just deal with it?

[nik-]

Yes.

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by nik-

Yes.

I know who's next on the getting picked on list.

[nik-]

[woob]

Originally Posted by FireFly

And yet Nickleback has sold 20 million more albums than her and is the 2nd best selling foreign act in the US after only the Beatles.

Holy poops - Is this real? Says a lot about how many people have awful taste in music

[woob]

Oh, and maybe we should let CC know his quote was used in here so, if he wants, he can come in and defend himself.

[Barbecue]

Originally Posted by FireFly

And yet Nickleback has sold 20 million more albums than her and is the 2nd best selling foreign act in the US after only the Beatles.

No doubt Nickelback is more successful but identifying individuals from the band is a different story.
Avril Lavigne is a solo artist who goes by her real name and you'll find more people knowing her name than Chad "Who? Oh that guy from Nickelback" Kroeger

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by FireFly

And yet Nickleback has sold 20 million more albums than her and is the 2nd best selling foreign act in the US after only the Beatles.

Originally Posted by woob

Holy poops - Is this real? Says a lot about how many people have awful taste in music

Unless I`m looking at numbers incorrectly Nickleback is no where near a top selling list in the USA.

Best selling music artists in the USA that are foreign are:
1. The Beatles
2. Led Zeppelin
3. Pink Floyd
4. Elton John
5. ACDC
6. The Rolling Stones
7. U2
8. Celine Dion
9. Fleetwood Mac (?)
10. Shania Twain

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._United_States

[Chill Cosby]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Unless I`m looking at numbers incorrectly Nickleback is no where near a top selling list in the USA.



Best selling music artists in the USA that are foreign are:

1. The Beatles

2. Led Zeppelin

3. Pink Floyd

4. Elton John

5. ACDC

6. The Rolling Stones

7. U2

8. Celine Dion

9. Fleetwood Mac (?)

10. Shania Twain



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._United_States

The "2nd" refers to 2000 - present

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Barbecue

No doubt Nickelback is more successful but identifying individuals from the band is a different story.
Avril Lavigne is a solo artist who goes by her real name and you'll find more people knowing her name than Chad "Who? Oh that guy from Nickelback" Kroeger

hmm, I think you over estimate Avril's success.


I might agree if Mr. Kroeger was the bass player or drummer, but he is front and centre, both on stage and in media.


I reckon more people know the name Chad Kroeger than Avril Lavigne.

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by Regulator75

Originally Posted by To Be Quite Honest

The jewel of the Nile... This woman can't be real... Her body type is so unbelieveable that I don't believe she isn't Photoshopped... Wow...wow... I'll be in my bunk...

I'm not even a big boob guy; I'm actually the opposite. I like the athletic big butt but this woman is amazing ... in figure... I haven't heard her favorite topics, but if they are (nerd phrase here) I'm in! ... I'm her man! ... Seriously, I need to stop typing now... Butt I can't.

It's really that last picture that's so super...

Presented without comment.

[Winsor_Pilates]

That comment doesn't even seem like it's about that picture??
He's talking about "not even being a boob guy" and the picture is from behind?

Perhaps you could "present with comment" and explain?

[Barbecue]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

That comments doesn't even seem like it's about that picture??
He's talking about "not even being a boob guy" and the picture is from behind?

Perhaps you could "present with comment" and explain?

indeed
not much of an upgrade from her first post "Here we are"

[dammage79]

That's not even the photo the poster was making a comment about, it was a series of other pictures.

I think Peanut takes issue with the objectifying comments. In all honesty, I can see the point.
A comment more like "Wow that's the most beautiful woman I've ever seen!" would be more acceptable.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by dammage79

That's not even the photo the poster was making a comment about, it was a series of other pictures.

I think Peanut takes issue with the objectifying comments. In all honesty, I can see the point.
A comment more like "Wow that's the most beautiful woman I've ever seen!" would be more acceptable.

Yeah the masturbatory comments are definitely in the creepy/objectification zone. No one cares or wants to know what you're jacking off to.