I suppose it is possible the cop missed. I would love to see one of these eye witnesses that corroborate the cops story actually show up. It seems odd that at no point has an eye witness come forward with the same version of events that the cop has.
Yes, there is good reason to think that many of these unjustifiable homicides by police across the country are racially motivated. But there is a lot more than that going on here. Our country is simply not paying enough attention to the terrible lack of accountability of police departments and the way it affects all of us—regardless of race or ethnicity. Because if a blond-haired, blue-eyed boy — that was my son, Michael — can be shot in the head under a street light with his hands cuffed behind his back, in front of five eyewitnesses (including his mother and sister), and his father was a retired Air Force lieutenant colonel who flew in three wars for his country — that’s me — and I still couldn’t get anything done about it, then Joe the plumber and Javier the roofer aren’t going to be able to do anything about it either.
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One of the main reasons police officers are rarely if ever prosecuted in these situations is the backlash that will come from every other cop. Unless there is overwhelming, indisputable evidence the cop acted in the wrong, other officers will never support prosecuting a cop. They are unionized and can and will go on strike if such a situation ever occurs. Their feeling is that with the dangers associated with the job, they need to be able to do their job without fear of repercussions. As such it makes the burden of proof to prosecute exceptionally high and difficult for a prosecutor to take on a case like that.
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So odd to read stories like this. Granted that's one side of the coin from the victims father.
I am not sure what the process is in the US and I suspect, that just like lack of training, education, salary, etc, for cops in the US, the process to investigate police misconduct for smaller services is probably lacking. I also suspect that there are alot of backwater towns who's services are still in the dark age of policing-intimidation, control, etc.
I can say that in Canada, processes for police complaints are extensive. Investigations for in custody deaths, shootings and serious injury resulting from interactions with police are beyond extensive and rightfully so. And that all police use of force investigations involving serious injury or death are conducted by an independent body and consultation with a crown from a different city.
Are you saying that there are witnesses (evidence) that state he attacked the officer and nothing in the form of other witnesses to suggest otherwise?
I think you are going to find it hard to prove the officer is a cold blooded murderer, even with many witnesses. There are already people coming forward as credible witnesses who are bringing forward details that do not support the narrative. Add to the story the fact the victim had just previously committed a violent crime and the officer claims he was attacked by the victim, it will be hard to prove the officer did not fear for his life.
Five separate witnesses who all saw the same thing. Brown running away and the cop firing at him. Brown turning around and the cop firing two more shots and killing him.
There has been absolutely nothing that I have seen where an eye witness has corroborated the officers version of events. And there is absolutely no evidence that the reason the cop fired his weapon was because he thought his life was at risk. It does seem like a convenient reason post facto to explain why the weapon was fired.
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I suppose it is possible the cop missed. I would love to see one of these eye witnesses that corroborate the cops story actually show up. It seems odd that at no point has an eye witness come forward with the same version of events that the cop has.
How useful are witness versions that don't support the physical evidence?
I suppose it is possible the cop missed. I would love to see one of these eye witnesses that corroborate the cops story actually show up. It seems odd that at no point has an eye witness come forward with the same version of events that the cop has.
Don't forget "Josie" who called in anonymously to a radio station!
One of the main reasons police officers are rarely if ever prosecuted in these situations is the backlash that will come from every other cop. Unless there is overwhelming, indisputable evidence the cop acted in the wrong, other officers will never support prosecuting a cop. They are unionized and can and will go on strike if such a situation ever occurs. Their feeling is that with the dangers associated with the job, they need to be able to do their job without fear of repercussions. As such it makes the burden of proof to prosecute exceptionally high and difficult for a prosecutor to take on a case like that.
Wrong. Some police don't have unions (RCMP) and those that do aren't allowed to strike.
I know the alleged robbery has nothing to do with this case but here is the rest of that surveillance video. You can see Mike Brown at the cash register, although not confirmed it appears that he is paying for the items.
I know the alleged robbery has nothing to do with this case but here is the rest of that surveillance video. You can see Mike Brown at the cash register, although not confirmed it appears that he is paying for the items.
Except that he reaches all the way across, grabs a box and the clerk comes out to stop him. That looks like a normal transaction for sure
I know the alleged robbery has nothing to do with this case but here is the rest of that surveillance video. You can see Mike Brown at the cash register, although not confirmed it appears that he is paying for the items.
I'm sorry, but how do you possibly interpret that clip as him paying for items?
Who effing cares what he was doing prior to being shot and killed for nothing more than Loitering and potentially resisting arrest.
All it does it work exactly the way it's working, running down his character and absolving the individual(s) responsible for his death by turning him into less of a human being.
Even if he, Michael Brown, had just killed someone, unless the arresting officer fears for his life, shooting and killing him is an inappropriate response.
You can't just shoot someone because you think they are acting strange and then justify it afterwards because they happened to commit a crime before your encounter. That's just killing someone.
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The corners office says 6 to 8 bullets hit the body.
The private one says exactly 6
Two conflicted autopsy reports we will have to see what the Justice department autopsy says. To be fair I read that 10 bullets were fired could he have missed him while running away? Did he turn around when shots were fired and missed?
