Twitter account shames 'D-bag' Calgary parkers

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

Because if it's an empty lot, why would you need to park there, if not to antagonize them?
Obviously you can do it all you want, but why?

You are projecting your motives and destination on other people. They may not be headed to that same store or wherever. It could be closer to many other things that have nothing to do with the reason that you're in that parking lot.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by Wormius

You are projecting your motives and destination on other people. They may not be headed to that same store or wherever. It could be closer to many other things that have nothing to do with the reason that you're in that parking lot.

This is pretty much it. "Car Guys" are just assuming that Back Of The Lot = Car Guy, but Back Of The Lot - Buffer = Inconsiderate Wanker, when in fact Normal Person + Back Of The Lot = Who Gives A ####.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

This is pretty much it. "Car Guys" are just assuming that Back Of The Lot = Car Guy, but Back Of The Lot - Buffer = Inconsiderate Wanker, when in fact Normal Person + Back Of The Lot = Who Gives A ####.

I see the point of parking in a secluded spot if you want to protect your car but as said everyone's motives aren't the same as "car guys". The back of the lot might be close to a bus stop, which I'd guess car guys wouldn't have a clue about, or it might be a convenient place for car pooling meet ups. Mall employees may be told to park in the back to keep the convenient spots for customers.

I kind of take offence at the elitist term "car guys" as well as I consider myself a car guy in many ways but have never owned an exotic, the closest being maybe was my Austin Healey. I've done a lot of my own maintenance and a lot of repairs on all my cars, so I'm pretty aware of my vehicle. I mean if you want to park in the back of the lot to try and protect your car, I understand but there are no guarantees.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Uh I think a few people have.

Actually, you haven't. Not one of you. You guys have made arguments about how getting dinged is annoying/disrespectful, but that represents little more than moving the goalposts as this was never the argument at the start. You guys are throwing temper tantrums over the simple concept of someone parking next to you. That's it. And it is so funny watching you, Acey and Pylon melt down over it. I mean it dude. I really mean it. You guys need to get over yourselves.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

If I don't ding your door but you still get annoyed because I parked next to you, you're an a-hole.

But why not just park one spot over? Easier to get into your car, easier for me to get into my car, and there's no chance for anybody to be deemed an a-hole under any circumstance because there's no way anybody's car could be hit. In a completely empty lot, why the hell not?

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

You guys are throwing temper tantrums over the simple concept of someone parking next to you when many other more convenient spots are available.

ftfy

[Resolute 14]

That doesn't make your temper tantrum any less absurd, Acey. You are still pouting because someone is violating your sense of entitlement.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Why do you disbelieve them? Why would anyone lie about not knowing that?

Because I honestly don't believe you. I cannot believe that in your entire life you have never seen a normally distributed parking lot where the density of vehicles decreases as you move away from the door, and then there is one relatively expensive car parked far away from all the others. I don't believe that you are stupid enough to not think of a reason why that car might be parked there.

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

That doesn't make your temper tantrum any less absurd, Acey. You are still pouting because someone is violating your sense of entitlement.

I'm pouting because we've established that there's no reason to park immediately next to that car parked far away from the others but to antagonize people who don't like door dings.

[Chill Cosby]

Originally Posted by Acey

Because I honestly don't believe you. I cannot believe that in your entire life you have never seen a normally distributed parking lot where the density of vehicles decreases as you move away from the door, and then there is one relatively expensive car parked far away from all the others. I don't believe that you are stupid enough to not think of a reason why that car might be parked there.



I'm pouting because we've established that there's no reason to park immediately next to that car parked far away from the others but to antagonize people who don't like door dings.

Do you live in a ghetto-like area?

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Acey

I'm pouting because we've established that there's no reason to park immediately next to that car parked far away from the others but to antagonize people who don't like door dings.

Uh, no you haven't established that and to jump to the conclusion that they have done it just to antagonize you shows something about your psyche. I'm not saying that there aren't some dip**** drivers out there but to lay that label on everyone who displeases you, is presumptuous.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by Chill Cosby

Do you live in a ghetto-like area?

If not equal, it seems there might be more expensive cars here in Edmonton than in Calgary, actually... by a small margin.

Originally Posted by Vulcan

Uh, no you haven't established that and to jump to the conclusion that they have done it just to antagonize you shows something about your psyche. I'm not saying that there aren't some dip**** drivers out there but to lay that label on everyone who displeases you, is presumptuous.

Correction, it would seem Resolute, Chill Cosby, and MarchHare do it antagonize because they have now been made aware of why somebody might be inclined to park away from others. And you don't have to be a dip**** for the Lethbridge wind to grab your door and take it for a ride into the car next you, so I prefer to eliminate the possibility, when able. All I am saying is that, for the most part, I politely offer the more convenient spaces to others in an effort to protect my vehicle, which is a win-win for both parties. Can somebody please explain to me why that makes me entitled?

It's no different than any other public situation. At the movies, you are not entitled to a movie theatre entirely absent of screaming and crying children. But you would prefer to be in a quieter one, I imagine. Some people dislike the sound crying children more than most, so they are beginning to take preventative measure to attend showings either later on in the evening when there are less likely to be children, or special 18+ showings that cinemas are beginning to offer. Based on the logic in this thread, these people are uptight, and need to get over themselves because (like door dings), crying babies are a thing of life and you should get over it when the alternative (a later showtime, or parking away from others) is entitled and snobby.

You lot seem the type to bring your toddlers into the 18+ showing to annoy the people who simply want to enjoy a film in peace.

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by Wormius

You are projecting your motives and destination on other people. They may not be headed to that same store or wherever. It could be closer to many other things that have nothing to do with the reason that you're in that parking lot.

But that still doesn't explain why your would need to park directly next to them.
As far as I know, we're operating under the assumption that this hypothetical parking lot is more than half empty, and that there are plenty of empty spots specifically at the back of the lot where this "car guy" is.
Even if the spot directly next to them is closer to your destination, why not leave a space between you?

Obviously is this lot is full, and there are a handful of people parked back there already, the situation.changes.

[Chill Cosby]

Originally Posted by Acey

If not equal, it seems there might be more expensive cars here in Edmonton than in Calgary, actually... by a small margin.



Correction, it would seem Resolute, Chill Cosby, and MarchHare do it antagonize because they have now been made aware of why somebody might be inclined to park away from others. Can somebody please explain to me why that makes me entitled?

Are you saying that in the last 24-36 hours I have gone from not knowing about this rule, to knowing about it and saying I would try to keep it in mind, to being antagonistic in my parking habits?

None of your scenarios are realistic. I see multiple "relatively expensive" vehicles in parking lots every day, 90% of which are parked amongst everyone else, every once in a while, one is parked by itself. You know what else I see equally as often? Old, slightly beat, average vehicles parked all by their lonesome.

Now tell me, honestly, if you hadn't ever heard of this rule, and you'd seen nice cars parked amongst other cars, while both nice cars and junk cars park in the middle of nowhere, how would you gather some unwritten rule was in play without any evidence of rhyme or reason? You come off entitled because you don't accept that anybody could possibly see things differently than yourself. It's the divine fallacy.

Maybe it's not that your stance is wrong. Maybe it's that your definition of "relatively expensive" is wrong. You've qualified multiple times as a car that has some above-average level of value, but what's that? Is every car, even beaters off limits when parked alone? If so, that makes sense. Are only genuinely top end cars, classic cars, exotics, etc. off limits? Because that makes sense. But if it's a BMW, an Audi, a Mercedes... yeah, it doesn't make sense, because those cars aren't significant or unique. Those are EVERYWHERE, and 90% of them park amongst everyone else.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by Chill Cosby

rule [...]
middle of nowhere, how would you gather some unwritten rule.

There is no "rule", the question is simply, if there is a car in the middle of nowhere, no matter what it is, why park directly next to it in a half empty parking lot? Why not just leave a space so it is more comfortable for all parties involved? This no longer has anything to do with a nice car or door dings or anything, just that simple question. Why park directly next to it in that situation?

To answer the whole Audi, BMW, Merc thing... I'll say that your car doesn't have to be expensive to give a damn about protecting it... obviously.

[photon]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

bus stop, which I'd guess car guys wouldn't have a clue about

Originally Posted by Vulcan

to jump to the conclusion that they have done it just to antagonize you shows something about your psyche. I'm not saying that there aren't some dip**** drivers out there but to lay that label on everyone who displeases you, is presumptuous.

Hm, psychologist psychoanalyse thyself?

Passive aggressive insults aside, there's two sides to what you're calling "jumping" to a conclusion.

Short of being omniscient, all conclusions are based on incomplete information. We all use other information in our brain to try and fill in the gaps, and we all have a strength of confidence in our conclusion roughly based on the direct and indirect information available.

Tons of things happen to everyone every day where we assume what people's thoughts and motivations are, that's the only possible way to get through the day. That's one side.

The difference between that and someone with an actual flaw in their psyche is reasonable people will change their view when new information demonstrates their previous conclusions to be inaccurate, or will scale their conclusions in proportion to the confidence in the conclusion. That's the other side.

I wondered about what would motivate someone to park right next to someone else in the picture I posted and haven't read a single speculation, let alone one that is as plausible as the simplest explanation; that there's jerks out there that derive enjoyment from antagonizing others (which you readily agreed there are). I don't see how that's such a leap when even reading this thread shows the exact same kind of behaviour.

[Chill Cosby]

Originally Posted by Acey

There is no "rule", the question is simply, if there is a car in the middle of nowhere, no matter what it is, why park directly next to it in a half empty parking lot? Why not just leave a space so it is more comfortable for all parties involved? This no longer has anything to do with a nice car or door dings or anything, just that simple question. Why park directly next to it in that situation?

To answer the whole Audi, BMW, Merc thing... I'll say that your car doesn't have to be expensive to give a damn about protecting it... obviously.

Ok, so any relation to expense is out the window. Door dings don't matter.

The answer: Why not? If you were purposely not to have door dings or the quality of the car in mind, what possible reason would there be to purposely avoid cars?

Do you find it uncomfortable to be parked next to someone? I never have. I have a small car, I know how to park, so the comfort of myself and others is never a factor in getting in/out of our respective cars.

Again, to be clear, I know now that this is a "car guy" thing, so I'll keep it in mind, but what possible reason would there be to avoid parking next to someone if not for door dings?

[Acey]

MarchHare gave his reasoning for parking next to somebody which seems somewhat silly, but makes much more sense than yours. Parking in the first available spot, even if it happens to be next to somebody, is a perfectly logical rationale for selecting a place to park your vehicle.

If you were to say that you select a parking spot in a lot entirely at random, that would be perfectly reasonable.

Additionally, in a situation where a parking lot is say 75% empty and there are two spots adjacent to another vehicle, that one would randomly select a spot and not eliminate those two spots from the list of places one is considering to park, is also perfectly reasonable.

However, correct me if I'm wrong, you seem to be implying that you would actively seek out the two aforementioned spots next to a vehicle in the middle of nowhere? Yeah you said you won't hit it (clearly haven't lived in Lethbridge ) but still, just trying to understand why you would do that?

[monkeyman]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

I see the point of parking in a secluded spot if you want to protect your car but as said everyone's motives aren't the same as "car guys". The back of the lot might be close to a bus stop, which I'd guess car guys wouldn't have a clue about, or it might be a convenient place for car pooling meet ups. Mall employees may be told to park in the back to keep the convenient spots for customers.

I kind of take offence at the elitist term "car guys" as well as I consider myself a car guy in many ways but have never owned an exotic, the closest being maybe was my Austin Healey. I've done a lot of my own maintenance and a lot of repairs on all my cars, so I'm pretty aware of my vehicle. I mean if you want to park in the back of the lot to try and protect your car, I understand but there are no guarantees.

I'm sure the owner of those businesses and paying customers really appreciate you using up parking spaces for such things. D-bag move #2?

[photon]

Originally Posted by Chill Cosby

Ok, so any relation to expense is out the window. Door dings don't matter.

He didn't say that, he said "I'll say that your car doesn't have to be expensive to give a damn about protecting it". Meaning you could have a Neon but still be concerned about protecting it.

Originally Posted by Chill Cosby

but what possible reason would there be to avoid parking next to someone if not for door dings?

Heh, if "what possible reason for parking next to a car not near anything" isn't a valid question then this isn't either.

But there are lots of reasons. Some parking lots have very narrow stalls and some cars have very long doors making it difficult at best and impossible if someone parks just a little on the side of their stall, so they park far away to avoid dinging someone else's door; I've done this before. I've also had my car door dinged after parking far away in a lot with narrow stalls and someone parked next to me.

Sometimes people have back problems or other physical things that mean they need more time to get in and out, or can't hold their door away from the neighbouring car and easily get out, so want to be able to swing their door fully out.

Sometimes when I'm shopping for something bigger I know I'll have to put in the back seat, I'll park far back so that when I come back to my car I'll be able to fully open the doors and have enough room to get it in; not possible if someone's parked beside me. NE Canadian Tire is almost impossible for this.

I'm sure there's tons of others.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Actually, you haven't. Not one of you. You guys have made arguments about how getting dinged is annoying/disrespectful, but that represents little more than moving the goalposts as this was never the argument at the start. You guys are throwing temper tantrums over the simple concept of someone parking next to you. That's it. And it is so funny watching you, Acey and Pylon melt down over it. I mean it dude. I really mean it. You guys need to get over yourselves.

I actually feel bad for even trying to have a discussion with you since its obvious you're just a troll. My entire post was full of good points, which again you've ignored and only quoted the first sentence, begun talking about a 'point' that I didn't even bring up, then implied that we're throwing temper tantrums (when it's actually you that seems to be) I'm done taking the bait, take your Schick elsewhere.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

I kind of take offence at the elitist term "car guys" as well as I consider myself a car guy in many ways but have never owned an exotic, the closest being maybe was my Austin Healey.

What a bizarre thing to take offense to.

It's not an elitist term at all. It is more a term for a guy that loves cars, and takes a large amount of pride in his vehicle. I have nothing special. I have a VW Tiguan I lease through work, and an '08 BMW 135i worth maybe 25k. You could be a car guy, and own a 87 Ford Tempo. It's more about your attitude towards your cars, and how you care for them.

I baby my stuff, and have aneurisms over rock chips, dings, and worry more about what I put in my cars than my own body. I enjoy the 2-3 hours I spend each weekend cleaning wheels, waxing, and detailing my stuff. I am currently having a massive amount of emotional anxiety, because the shift knob leather in my BMW has some unusual wear on it, and I cannot fathom the idea of a not perfect shiny knob.