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Old 07-17-2014, 01:51 PM   #61
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I can't see this under 50k in Canada. That being said, if they can keep it under 40 I'll be in line to buy one. I do a lot of city driving in my personal vehicle for business, and this car would be unbelievable for that purpose.
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Old 07-17-2014, 01:52 PM   #62
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What is the capability of charging off of a generator. If you were to be away from civilization, could a gas generator be used to charge it? Sort of defeats the purpose, but would be similar to carrying a jerry can.

Any plans to move to a utility/truck type vehicle? That would be interesting.
Their next vehicle, which I believe is to be released next year is a SUV:

http://www.teslamotors.com/modelx
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One of my friends who is an electrician was telling me that there is some form of "smart" electrical grid (terms probably wrong) that you can have in your house.

What it will apparently do is be smart enough to charge you car overnight when rates are lower, and then if your car remains plugged in and is fully charged during peak energy times, it will actually DRAW power from the car to provide your home with power, thus saving you some energy costs.

No idea how that works, or how you program it, but a damn cool idea if implemented correctly.
You'd also need a converter of some fashion to go from DC to AC somewhere in your house.
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Old 07-17-2014, 02:00 PM   #64
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Tesla is planning to make an electric truck after the Model III.
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One of my friends who is an electrician was telling me that there is some form of "smart" electrical grid (terms probably wrong) that you can have in your house.

What it will apparently do is be smart enough to charge you car overnight when rates are lower, and then if your car remains plugged in and is fully charged during peak energy times, it will actually DRAW power from the car to provide your home with power, thus saving you some energy costs.

No idea how that works, or how you program it, but a damn cool idea if implemented correctly.
It is called a smart grid, but we don't have one in Alberta. Basically, the wholesale cost of electricity is higher during peak times, and lower during the middle of the night. However, since your electric meter only reads one number, you pay an average price for all your usage. Since most people's pattern is about the same, it works out reasonably fairly.

To implement smart metering, the biggest hurdle is everyone would need a new electric meter, which is a huge cost to overcome. We don't have this in Alberta yet, but some places do. It would be a huge advantage to the electrical grid if a bunch of batteries were used in super peak times to reduce load.
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Here's a dumb question- why not have two batteries then you can go twice as far?
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Old 07-17-2014, 02:19 PM   #67
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The coal argument that always gets thrown out is ridiculous.

What do you think is more efficient? A power plant that a company makes direct profit off of its efficiency, or Joe Blow's 2002 2.0L Honda Civic with a check engine light on?

What do you think is a more dangerous polluter, a coal power plant with a sophisticated scrubbing system in a rural area, or cars with 80% functioning catalytic converters exhausting 2m away from pedestrians?
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Old 07-17-2014, 02:20 PM   #68
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I hope Tesla opens a Calgary dealer. I will be the first guy in line with an application. They are the future, and everyone will be playing catch up within 15 years.
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Put me on the waiting list. Would definitely buy one at that price.
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I'm not even super concerned about the range; it's never going to be a long distance cruiser, but that's what my TDI is for. As a commuter/daily driver, it seems like an excellent
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Old 07-17-2014, 02:33 PM   #71
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I'd buy it in a heartbeat. I have my other vehicle for road trips. This would be my awesome commuter.
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Old 07-17-2014, 02:51 PM   #72
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I hope Tesla opens a Calgary dealer. I will be the first guy in line with an application. They are the future, and everyone will be playing catch up within 15 years.
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I'm not even super concerned about the range; it's never going to be a long distance cruiser, but that's what my TDI is for. As a commuter/daily driver, it seems like an excellent
The tech will get to long distance at somepoint. It's pretty much inevitable.
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Here's a dumb question- why not have two batteries then you can go twice as far?
Not really since two batteries (or twice as many batteries actually because each car has thousands of batteries, 7000 or so cells for the 85kWh I think it was) since you have to carry around and move all those batteries.

On the site's range calculator at the default settings the 60kWh Model S says 386km range, or 6km / kWh. The 85kWh Model S says 485km range, or 5km / kWh.
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CP deals on Teslas?
To be honest, I hope Tesla doesn't discount the cars for anyone, and cheapen the product/concept. They need to keep the cars high demand/high profit for at least the next 5 years for the big automakers top finally be tempted to jump on board the EV train.

For myself, I could do 95% of my driving in an EV, and would only need some dilapidated beater of an old SUV for the odd time I need to go to the mountains.
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For myself, I could do 95% of my driving in an EV, and would only need some dilapidated beater of an old SUV for the odd time I need to go to the mountains.
This is exactly where my head is at.
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Old 07-17-2014, 03:44 PM   #76
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I'd friggin love one of these things. See them all the time in Vancouver.
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I have a dumb question.

Is there a cost to use these charging stations?
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Old 07-17-2014, 04:26 PM   #78
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I have a dumb question.

Is there a cost to use these charging stations?
I read somewhere that currently they are free, but they will be charging for it in the future.

Pretty sure someone posted it on this site, I will try to find it.
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Old 07-17-2014, 04:32 PM   #79
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http://blog.caranddriver.com/tesla-k...ging-stations/

"Although the very short recharge times will appeal most to customers, Tesla sweetens the pot with its pricing: Using the Supercharger is free.
Musk explained rather vaguely that “economies of scale” of the Model S enable Tesla to offer recharging at these Supercharger stations for free."
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Old 07-17-2014, 04:46 PM   #80
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You don't need a SuperchargingStation with a Tesla . Its just faster. They have charger built on board. For regular outlets their is a either 110v or 230v connector.

http://www.teslamotors.com/charging#/outlet


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