Oilers a model franchise

[speeds]

[quote]Originally posted by leonk19@Sep 22 2004, 04:24 AM

Originally Posted by speeds,Sep 22 2004, 03:51 AM

There's no denying that the drafting was horrendous, and that it is only improving now. But saying that is the only reason, and money isn't that big of a deal is a pretty big stretch.

If the Oilers were able to keep Guerin, Weight, Hamrlik, and Curtis Joseph, on top of already having Ryan Smyth, that is still a very good list of essentials. A number one centre, a number one winger, a #1-2 defenceman, and a number one goalie right there. That's a pretty good base to build around if we had the money to keep them.

I suppose money was a factor, in that if they were TO or NYR they'd have kept them, but they'd probably be more like a STL than they would be a COL/DET had they kept them.

[speeds]

Originally posted by speeds@Sep 22 2004, 05:54 PM

I suppose money was a factor, in that if they were TO or NYR they'd have kept them, but they'd probably be more like a STL than they would be a COL/DET had they kept them.

I mean, if you undid every bad decision with hindsight, yeah, they'd have been a hell of a team, but who wouldn't?

[JiriHrdina]

Originally posted by Flames Draft Watcher+Sep 22 2004, 11:53 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Flames Draft Watcher @ Sep 22 2004, 11:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-CaramonLS@Sep 22 2004, 05:37 AM
I think the last player Toronto actually developed into something (well not much) Was Felix Potvin. Seriously.

I don't count Stajan at the moment since he hasn't really amounted to much of anything, but maybe down the line he could be #2 over the past 10 years.

I'd argue guys like Modin, Sullivan, etc were all developed by Toronto. Doesn't make up for the fact they waived or dealt them in horrible deals but they were brought up through the system. [/b][/quote]
A minor quibble but Sullivan was drafted and developed by the Devils, a team known for their ability to do both. By the time he came to the Leafs Sullivan's development was a fair bit a long.

[HOWITZER]

This got dug up in the "no good" thread. Thought I'd just say that there are a couple line items that Edmonton is a model at.

1. As a corporate entity, they have done well to sucker the city of edmonton out of so much cash for the new arena. They desperately needed it.
2. They do an excellent job keeping their fans loyal no matter what. The spin machine is strong up there.
3. They are arguably the best place in the league for offering top line minutes to newly drafted players.
4. They have the sports media on their side

[dash_pinched]

Blue Jackets management are getting their Oilers shots in re: on-going negotiations with Ryan Johansen:

Blue Jackets general manager Jarmo Kekalainen is countering: "We will bring Toews into the discussion only after Ryan has won two Stanley Cups and an Olympic gold medal. We will match any offer sheets, unless they come from the Oilers — in which case we’ll take three or four high draft picks and allow Ryan to play in Edmonton. We want to do a bridge contract so that Ryan can prove that he is worth telephone numbers the next time we sit down at this table. We will not do a four-year deal only to see him leave town for nothing in 2018."

http://bluejacketsxtra.dispatch.com/...-the-face.html

[StrykerSteve]

That's a nasty burn.

[Point Blank]

Wow...you know you're no good when even the GM of the Blue Jackets makes fun of your no goodness

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

I have serious misgivings about Lowe's qualifications as GM. I believe the Oilers will have a couple more down years before it gets turned around.

Unnecessary bump, but holy hell did I ever underestimate on this one!

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Point Blank

Wow...you know you're no good when even the GM of the Blue Jackets makes fun of your no goodness

To be fair, the Blue Jackets management is very respectable right now.

[Trailer Fire]

No random drunken bump. No good.

[Rick M.]

The thread title should read 'Oilers Are A Model-T Franchise'. fify

[Table 5]

I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think that Oilers bit from the Jackets is a direct quote...it reads more like what the writer is thinking that Kekalainen would say in his argument.

[zukes]

Originally Posted by Table 5

I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think that Oilers bit from the Jackets is a direct quote...it reads more like what the writer is thinking that Kekalainen would say in his argument.

I agree, the title of the article even says: MIchael Arace commentary. Still hilarious and true, and potentially even something said off the record.

[nik-]

Do we really need two of these threads?

[CsInMyBlood]

Originally Posted by nik-

Do we really need two of these threads?

This is a 10 year old thread that somebody bumped for some reason.

However it is funny how things haven't changed in Oilerland for 10 years.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by nik-

Do we really need two of these threads?

Good Point!



I suggest that 99 would be a good number of threads to celebrate Mulletville's No Goodness.

[RyZ]

Oiler fans sure were a whole lot more numerous and brave 10 years ago. Tbat team has sucked all the life out of that fan base.

[SeeGeeWhy]

Originally Posted by CsInMyBlood

This is a 10 year old thread that somebody bumped for some reason.

So is the Edmonton is No Good thread.

[Shawnski]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14
I have serious misgivings about Lowe's qualifications as GM. I believe the Oilers will have a couple more down years before it gets turned around.

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Unnecessary bump, but holy hell did I ever underestimate on this one!

Oh I don't know if you did THAT much. Just change "years" to "decades" and you would be close.

Now, if it goes into "centuries" then, yeah, kinda missed the mark.

[Barbecue]

I'm beginning to think this was calculated all along

step 1) Put together a piss poor team and promise playoff hope
step 2) Oiler team fails time and time again
step 3) frustrate Oiler fans so much that they have thrown their jerseys on the ice
step 4) Increased sales of Jerseys in replacing the ones thrown away
step 5) Profit!

Genious...pure genious