07-01-2014, 02:17 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by 19Yzerman19
I was going to wait for Vrbata, Niskanen and Grabovski to drop before making this but maybe if they turn out to be epically bad they can be added later.
So, who made the dumbest signing today? Here are the strongest candidates:
Dave Bolland - 5 years, 5.5M AAV
Brooks Orpik - 5 years, 5.5M AAV
Benoit Pouliot - 5 years, 4M AAV
Derek Engelland - 3 years, 2.9M AAV
Stephen Weiss - 5 years, 4.9M AAV
Cast your votes!
(Incidentally there's no point in a "best" thread because it's Ehrhoff)
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Oh sorry, you meant this year. Bolland and Orpick, the other two you listed have comparables that are equal to what they got.
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07-01-2014, 02:18 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Calgary
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Orpik deal is really really bad.
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07-01-2014, 02:18 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Richmond, BC
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Engelland deal reminds me of the Pardy deal with Dallas a few years ago. Pretty gross, but not a huge amount of $$ in absolute terms, so whatever.
Pouliot deal is horrible. I think I'd rather have Byron.
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07-01-2014, 02:20 PM
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#24
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Originally Posted by 19Yzerman19
No, it's legitimately a terrible contract and anyone not wearing homer glasses can see that.
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Can you please learn to disagree with people without being a jerk about it?
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07-01-2014, 02:22 PM
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#25
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: STH since 2002
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Orpik, Bolland are ridiculous in both term and cap hit.
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07-01-2014, 02:23 PM
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wins 10 internets
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: slightly to the left
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The difference is in 3 years we'll still be talking about the Orpik, Bolland, and Pouliot deals and how horrible they are. In 3 years the Engelland deal won't matter and will quickly be forgotten about
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07-01-2014, 02:24 PM
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#27
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Franchise Player
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Orpik gets the edge over Bolland
Bolland is just a 3rd line center that's being massively overpaid, he can still contribute
Orpik should be a 7th d man
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07-01-2014, 02:24 PM
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#28
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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one more vote for Bolland.
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07-01-2014, 02:27 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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No Anton strawman?
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07-01-2014, 02:29 PM
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#31
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by jeffman
No Anton strawman?
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Stralman's contract is probably the best you could ask for on July 1.
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07-01-2014, 02:31 PM
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#32
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Franchise Player
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The term on the orpik deal considering his age makes it the clear choice in my opinion.
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07-01-2014, 02:32 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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1. Orpik
2. Pouliot
3. Cammy
4. Bolland
5. Moulson
These deals are all overpays and bad on their own but when you see the term versus what others got it makes them that much worse.
People can whine about the Englland deal all they want but being stuck with bad deals for 5 years and over 5 million are much worse than his deal.
Last edited by Read Only; 07-01-2014 at 02:54 PM.
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07-01-2014, 02:43 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beatle17
Oh sorry, you meant this year. Bolland and Orpick, the other two you listed have comparables that are equal to what they got.
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Well if we were including previous years there's Alexei Yashin to consider. Even last year, Clarkson's was worse.
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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
Can you please learn to disagree with people without being a jerk about it?
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I apparently got infracted for telling someone they were wearing homer glasses?
Really?
I just did a broad search for that phrase and got 488 hits. Was that level of disagreement so beyond the pale? I feel like people disagree more strenuously than that all the time. I don't think that comment was out of line.
Also, obviously people are wearing homer glasses. This is a Flames board and it was a Flames signing.
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07-01-2014, 02:46 PM
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#35
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Originally Posted by 19Yzerman19
Well if we were including previous years there's Alexei Yashin to consider. Even last year, Clarkson's was worse.
I apparently got infracted for telling someone they were wearing homer glasses?
Really?
I just did a broad search for that phrase and got 488 hits. Was that level of disagreement so beyond the pale? I feel like people disagree more strenuously than that all the time. I don't think that comment was out of line.
Also, obviously people are wearing homer glasses. This is a Flames board and it was a Flames signing.
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I encourage you to read some of your posts on this board and all the arguments you seem to get into and ask yourself if you are disagreeing with folks in the right way.
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07-01-2014, 02:49 PM
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#36
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Lifetime Suspension
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Is arguing with people against the rules? I.e. it's a bad thing if I argue with people? This is frowned on? Because it seemst to me that arguing on internet message boards is like... 80% of internet message board traffic.
I realize the irony of arguing with you about this.
I suspect the main reason I argue with people on here is that I have strong opinions on hockey matters and am not a Flames fan.
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07-01-2014, 02:51 PM
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#37
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 19Yzerman19
Well if we were including previous years there's Alexei Yashin to consider. Even last year, Clarkson's was worse.
I apparently got infracted for telling someone they were wearing homer glasses?
Really?
I just did a broad search for that phrase and got 488 hits. Was that level of disagreement so beyond the pale? I feel like people disagree more strenuously than that all the time. I don't think that comment was out of line.
Also, obviously people are wearing homer glasses. This is a Flames board and it was a Flames signing.
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Rubbish!
I like the contract and the term but that doesn't mean my opinion is biased due to me being a Flames fan. Flames fans can and are objective when they look at players signed by the Flames. Treliving and his staff did thier homework and came to the conclusion this was a player they needed to sign.
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07-01-2014, 02:52 PM
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 19Yzerman19
Is arguing with people against the rules? I.e. it's a bad thing if I argue with people? This is frowned on? Because it seemst to me that arguing on internet message boards is like... 80% of internet message board traffic.
I realize the irony of arguing with you about this.
I suspect the main reason I argue with people on here is that I have strong opinions on hockey matters and am not a Flames fan.
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Your responses are often abrasive and basically strongly suggest that if someone doesn't share your opinion it is simply too hard to believe.
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07-01-2014, 02:52 PM
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#39
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Voted for Kodos
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 19Yzerman19
I was going to wait for Vrbata, Niskanen and Grabovski to drop before making this but maybe if they turn out to be epically bad they can be added later.
So, who made the dumbest signing today? Here are the strongest candidates:
Dave Bolland - 5 years, 5.5M AAV
Brooks Orpik - 5 years, 5.5M AAV
Benoit Pouliot - 5 years, 4M AAV
Derek Engelland - 3 years, 2.9M AAV
Cast your votes!
(Incidentally there's no point in a "best" thread because it's Ehrhoff)
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One of these things is not like the others.
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07-01-2014, 02:52 PM
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#40
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Prince George
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffman
No Anton strawman?
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Ya I think Stralman has to be up there as well. Top 3 I think.
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