06-23-2014, 11:03 AM
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Backup Goalie
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Originally Posted by Madman
Calgary Flames @NHLFlames
"I've been really impressed with Tod," - Treliving on working with #Flames director of amateur scouting Tod Button
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Man, Button is like a cockroach. I'm pretty sure nothing could ever kill him. Honestly, though, it's a great sign that he has survived a few management changes, scouting is essential to an organizations success, so glad to have a guy that different managers feel is important enough to keep around.
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06-23-2014, 11:03 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by saillias
no Feaster-type or Burke-type quotes here. No blustering. I like it.
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You're right, it's a breath of fresh air to not hear any Feaster-speak. "We believe with the 4th overall pick we are about to make the best draft selection in Calgary Flames franchise history".
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06-23-2014, 12:11 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Calgary in Heart, Ottawa in Body
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Quote:
Originally Posted by A Shot Wide
Man, Button is like a cockroach. I'm pretty sure nothing could ever kill him. Honestly, though, it's a great sign that he has survived a few management changes, scouting is essential to an organizations success, so glad to have a guy that different managers feel is important enough to keep around.
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I don't think Tod gets nearly enough credit for what he's done over the past few years. There's been a pretty up and down roller coaster ride within the organization since Button was hired on as the head scout, but I think his stability and the team's recent increase in trust in him has really helped stabilize our core of prospects since the rebuild has kicked in. The more resources and sway this guy has the better our drafting has become.
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06-23-2014, 12:15 PM
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Franchise Player
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Meh. He's been in charge of scouting for a long long time, and we've had some pretty lame drafting for a long long time. I can only hope that those years of futility fall on other people's shoulders, people who aren't with the Flames anymore.
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06-23-2014, 12:19 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: City by the Bay
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saillias
Meh. He's been in charge of scouting for a long long time, and we've had some pretty lame drafting for a long long time. I can only hope that those years of futility fall on other people's shoulders, people who aren't with the Flames anymore.
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Perhaps under previous regimes, the scouting staff was told to focus on different skills sets or a different type of player. That or the draft was controlled by the GM completely or went against scouting advice. I think that changed under Feaster and hopefully continues under Treliving.
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06-23-2014, 12:20 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Calgary
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Slightly off topic, but is TSN showing the later rounds this year on Saturday? If not, is there anywhere that is?
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06-23-2014, 12:21 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
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Originally Posted by _Q_
Slightly off topic, but is TSN showing the later rounds this year on Saturday? If not, is there anywhere that is?
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No TSN does not typically broadcast past the 1st round.
NHL network will be broadcasting on Saturday.
If you don't get NHL network you can listen to it on the fan 960
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06-23-2014, 12:24 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Silicon Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clever_Iggy
Perhaps under previous regimes, the scouting staff was told to focus on different skills sets or a different type of player. That or the draft was controlled by the GM completely or went against scouting advice. I think that changed under Feaster and hopefully continues under Treliving.
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probably has more to do with player development then scouting
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06-23-2014, 12:41 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Calgary in Heart, Ottawa in Body
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saillias
Meh. He's been in charge of scouting for a long long time, and we've had some pretty lame drafting for a long long time. I can only hope that those years of futility fall on other people's shoulders, people who aren't with the Flames anymore.
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That I agree with, but from what's been discussed (and mainly hearsay) here on CP over the past few years, it really sounds that the scouting department really only got an uptick in resources under Sutter and Button/his team got a lot more pull in final picks under Feaster/Weisbord.
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06-23-2014, 12:51 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by Phanuthier
probably has more to do with player development then scouting
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That could be it. But I doubt it's the whole story.
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06-23-2014, 01:49 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary
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Remember: every team had multiple chances to get Brodie. And Giordano. And Ortio. And Bouma. And Max Power.
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06-23-2014, 01:52 PM
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Originally Posted by Freeway
Remember: every team had multiple chances to get Brodie. And Giordano. And Ortio. And Bouma. And Max Power.
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Doesn't every team have a list like that? Or at least close to it (since Gio is awesome)?
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06-23-2014, 01:59 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by SebC
Doesn't every team have a list like that? Or at least close to it (since Gio is awesome)?
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Yeah, unless you're Edmonton.
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06-23-2014, 03:42 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Silicon Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clever_Iggy
Perhaps under previous regimes, the scouting staff was told to focus on different skills sets or a different type of player. That or the draft was controlled by the GM completely or went against scouting advice. I think that changed under Feaster and hopefully continues under Treliving.
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I think the whole regime direction is a little bit overblown. We still drafted Mitch Wahl and Dustin Boyd in early years, and big players like that beast last year in the 3rd (?) round.
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06-23-2014, 03:45 PM
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Franchise Player
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06-23-2014, 04:13 PM
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Franchise Player
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What a refreshing change. Any time this guy speaks to the media I like what he says. From what I've gathered so far he's to the point and honest, without showing his cards. Seems to have some pretty good hockey sense and cares about what's best for the club.
Granted it's all pre-season, and he could just be saying the right things, but I'm really, really excited for the upcoming season(s).
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06-23-2014, 04:22 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Originally Posted by Madman
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Dear Flames Media Group,
Signed,
Everyone who cant stand the wrinkled backdrop at every media/presser event
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06-23-2014, 04:26 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Uranus
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Madman
Calgary Flames @NHLFlames
"I've been really impressed with Tod," - Treliving on working with #Flames director of amateur scouting Tod Button
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There's definitely a reason he's survived all these regime changes over the years. If this draft goes well people will quickly realize that Feaster/Weisbrod had little to do with last years success at the table.
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06-23-2014, 04:27 PM
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#39
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Franchise Player
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Money will move. I like the sound of that.
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06-23-2014, 04:29 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus
There's definitely a reason he's survived all these regime changes over the years. If this draft goes well people will quickly realize that Feaster/Weisbrod had little to do with last years success at the table.
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All we can do is hope it goes well, and if it does great.
If it doesn't who do we blame scouts/Button or Treliving/Burke?
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