Out of curiosity, for all you Canadians out there, who do you decide who to root for in a World Cup?
I root for Canada and Canada only, but as Canada was knocked out two years ago, I'm rooting for the following:
- For the games to be entertaining.
- Anybody but Honduras
- For Jonathan de Guzman to have a terrible performance
- For Bosnia to give up many many goals
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Bosnia-Hertzegovina fans have a pretty killer song. A tad militant perhaps, but imagine an arena chanting this.
Also found a rough translation with explanations. NSFW, lyrics.
NSFW!
BH Fanaticos - Our Stance
Golden lilies ("zlatni ljiljan" symbol of first bosnian flag, also used as metaphor for important figures like soldiers who made big military deeds
and for example football players)
we are with you once more,
the sky above us shall burn again,
strong as "old bridge" stone (stone bridge in Mostar city over Neretva river, a national monument from ottoman era)
our mother, Bosnia, is proud on us.
choir: BE-HA-EF (abbreviation BHF = bosnia & herzegovina fanaticos)
let everything shake, let everything echo,
whole stadium shall burn
from Vilinius (capitol of lithuania) to Marakana (probably reference to stadium of "red star" in serbia rather than one in brazil)
we have balls to go everywhere
choir
f### the union (reference to football union in bosnia, a sport institution and administration which was corrupt back then),
f### the government (because of
their low interest in our national team)
we die for them, and they steal from us.
because betrayal is their way of life,
let's bring them all down, the noise starts
roll over all "chetniks" (chetniks - serbian nationalist paramilitary group which committed crimes against bosnian and croat civilians back in world war 2 and war in bosnia 1992-1995. term is used to insult serbs as well as metaphor for non-patriots and traitors because chetniks helped nazi germany army back in ww2 to occupy jugolavia and fight tito's partisans)
they are all little c###s
let bosnian flags flutter
our "lilies" (explained above) are waging war
we are strongest
the song is carrying us
sons of bosnia,
fanaticos
choir
your flares are diminishing
"the moment" is anticipated (probably reference to the moment when our national team scores a goal)
the players are fighting
your tears are huge, and you are all small
when Sergej sets your net on fire (Sergej Barbarez, very famous footbal player and star of national team back then,)
the stands shall burn, the stadium shall burn
every heart will pump strong and sing with full voice...
Canada almost deserves what they got with Begovic, he accepted a few call-ups and they didn't play him. Stupidity by the coach, but to be fair, back then you weren't allowed to switch countries after you played youth games for another. Fifa changed the rules in 2009 and Bosnia came calling.
One WCQ cycle we were already eliminated and had two games left and they rode Onstad or Hirschfeld pointlessly, I think that was Yallop, could have easily cap tied him... such a waste.
His reasoning/rationale for switching is still bull#### though. More than any other guy who switched he screwed us. He was our starter at every youth level in every major tournament... a program with no money invested a ton of their limited time and resources in him before he got a contract. Spurs and Portsmouth only noticed him playing for the nats. He really was helped a lot by the CSA.
He didn't like what he saw in the CSA and didn't think the right people were in charge. You don't play international soccer for the 10 suits who run the association, it's for the other 35 million Canadians.
The thing that really bugged me about him was that when the whole controversy was brewing he went on Canadian radio (the team in Vancouver) and said he wasn't going to switch and was committed to Canada. A month later he accepted a callup for Bosnia.
There have actually been some really far fetched theories in the Canadian soccer community about the Bosnian mafia and his family
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Its still Canada's responsibilty to cap him in a qualifier.
Begovic truly believed that Canada had no interest developing him if there were playing 100 year old Onstad in a two dead rubbers in the semifinal round.
Would you trust your international future to the CSA who left you on the bench?
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Its still Canada's responsibilty to cap him in a qualifier.
Begovic truly believed that Canada had no interest developing him if there were playing 100 year old Onstad in a two dead rubbers in the semifinal round.
Would you trust your international future to the CSA who left you on the bench?
I wouldn't argue that it was stupid by Yallop or that the CSA didn't miss an opportunity. Would take issue that Canada wasn't going to develop him though, they had already invested so much in him financially and coaching wise, he was clearly their keeper of the future. After Begovic there were basically no young keepers (arguably there still aren't, fingers crossed on Stillo and that Whitecaps kid), Borjan came out of the woodwork a little or we'd really be frigged.
You see young players get their backs up at Canada really quick so many times when they aren't getting playing time right off the bat or get cut from a team. Good young players really have a sense of entitlement in Canada, they expect that because our NT isn't strong that they should be starting for us when they haven't even become first team players with club.
Asmir was 20 and I believe in Portsmouth reserves when he was on the bench that cycle. Yallop deserves blame for not capping him but back then, when players couldn't switch after being cap tied at youth level... wasn't that out there to leave him on the bench.
I think they've learned their lesson, they have been calling up 3-5 promising kids and cap tying them at the gold cup every year now, never used to do that.
Its still Canada's responsibilty to cap him in a qualifier.
Begovic truly believed that Canada had no interest developing him if there were playing 100 year old Onstad in a two dead rubbers in the semifinal round.
Would you trust your international future to the CSA who left you on the bench?
Canada not playing Begovic in 2008 was only part of the reason why they were in this mess. He was considered capped to Canada in 2008. Then FIFA changed the rules in 2009 allowing players to switch nationalities after the age of 21, and Begovic bailed on Canada the first chance he got.
I don't know of many 21 year old goalkeepers who have started in International matches in recent years. Szczesny is one. Courtois is another. Matthew Ryan of Australia is another. But it is the exception, not the norm.
I wouldn't argue that it was stupid by Yallop or that the CSA didn't miss an opportunity. Would take issue that Canada wasn't going to develop him though, they had already invested so much in him financially and coaching wise, he was clearly their keeper of the future. After Begovic there were basically no young keepers (arguably there still aren't, fingers crossed on Stillo and that Whitecaps kid), Borjan came out of the woodwork a little or we'd really be frigged.
You see young players get their backs up at Canada really quick so many times when they aren't getting playing time right off the bat or get cut from a team. Good young players really have a sense of entitlement in Canada, they expect that because our NT isn't strong that they should be starting for us when they haven't even become first team players with club.
Asmir was 20 and I believe in Portsmouth reserves when he was on the bench that cycle. Yallop deserves blame for not capping him but back then, when players couldn't switch after being cap tied at youth level... wasn't that out there to leave him on the bench.
I think they've learned their lesson, they have been calling up 3-5 promising kids and cap tying them at the gold cup every year now, never used to do that.
I think we just need Canadians who have no ties!
Like when I have a grandson he'll be Canadian only with no ties to anywhere else! Pick him!
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Tons of Argentinians, and Brazilians are putting their full voice behind B&H it seems. 
well derrr
