[News] Flames considering up to 8 guys for #4

[Completely]

Originally Posted by t0rrent98

http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/512325

Bennet fails to do a single pull up in combine.

I can't do one either :s

[the_only_turek_fan]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

I suspect we are in serious talks to get an additional top10 pick.

What do we have to give up to get that additional pick??

[the_only_turek_fan]

I posted this in the other thread too:

The Oilers, whom I believe are leaning to Draisaitl if he’s there when it’s their turn, are probably on the phone to Tallon, too. The Buffalo Sabres pick second and Calgary fourth, although Flames president Brian Burke has a history of big-splash draft deals (Chris Pronger, the Sedin twins), so expect Burke and his new GM, Brad Treliving, to be all over moving to the No. 1 spot.

http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/201...ade-no-1-pick/

That pick is up for grabs. This is the one and only chance they Flames may get to get a franchise player.

I hope they get it done.

[the_only_turek_fan]

If it costs us pick #34 to get pick #1, then so be it.

[Antithesis]

I don't know how this could possibly be framed as a negative. Wouldn't want the management team going "Well, we've got pick #4, so there's absolutely no reason to consider any more than four players!"

[AC]

Originally Posted by Bingo

The other day Conroy was on in the morning, and with Conroy you get Conroy ... he empties his head.

His view? "I have a guy, and Brad has a guy. If we get my guy I'm pretty excited, but if we get Brad's guy I'll be pretty happy too"

Sounds to me they have two of the big four they are crossing their fingers for.

Yup, I think there are 2 of the top 4 the Flames love and then a group of players in the mix from 3-6 or 4-8 or whatever.

If the 2 favourites are gone by #4 I can't say I'd be disappointed if Flames management chooses the kid they think will be the best impact hockey player, even if they aren't in the "big 4".

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Trouba is head and shoulders above him at this point. He is a dman who has better offensive abilities and he actually knows how to play defence.

I wouldn't say head and shoulders above particularly after rookie seasons

[Mike F]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Krack Korn

I have a lot of trust in Tod Button at this point so I won't be freaking out no matter who they take.

Originally Posted by FAN

Whoa...

Continuing on my general theme of being a Debbie Downer in this thread, I just don't think there's much point in getting too worked up one way or the other on draft day.

Run through any 10 years of NHL drafts beginning at least 4 years ago. It's remarkable that the top 10 players in any given year often come from all over, with many "blue chip" top 10 players becoming marginal NHLers, if that.

The Draft is fun for trades and chatter, but ultimately it's a crap shoot for even the best scouting teams, and you'll never really have an idea of whether it's a good draft or not for 4 years or more. Getting upset or hyped over a pick is akin to getting upset or hyped about getting (or not) the lottery numbers you wanted.

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by Northendzone

How can the flames pick 8 guys with one pick? Is this a magic pick or something?

Historically, each draft pick was one guy. Has some thing changed?

With the 4th Overall Pick the Flames select...the RZA, the GZA, U-God, Inspectah Deck, the Ghostface Killah, the WU-TANG CLAN!!!

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by Roughneck

With the 4th Overall Pick the Flames select...the RZA, the GZA, U-God, Inspectah Deck, the Ghostface Killah, the WU-TANG CLAN!!!

No Raekwon, ODB or Method Man? I am disappointed.

[FireGilbert]

Rip odb

[robertsfanatic]

at the risk of this thread turning into a Morgan Rielly thread, if all the picks from that year are fairly close then he might technically go first...might being the operative word.

as far as knowing how to play defence, don't confuse him with gardiner, rielly is quite good and was only 19 in his first year...he didn't look overwhelmed and think he will be a top 2 in this league.

[shogged]

Originally Posted by Mike F

People are overreacting, IMO.

First, what Button said was:

I.e. There's a consensus top 4, and we could easily stop there and do more analysis, taking whoever is available. Instead they've broadened the group as far as 8 and are re-running their analysis to see if they come up with the same results.

That's absolutely what they should be doing. One key tenant of approaching anything scientifically is repeating to see if the answer is the same.

Second, anyone who thinks there's no value in questioning consensus has ignored the whole history of NHL drafts. Alexander Daigle was the consensus #1, but had the Senators really dug in and seen the red flags of his work ethic and commitment to the game, they could have taken Pronger or Kariya. That's just one of countless examples.

can't believe the thread went 4 pages past this post. this is all you need to read.

[useyourhead]

Exactly like it says above, there are 4 standouts - and we have the 4th. What are they going to say? "We have the 4th pick, we are going to let the top 3 go ahead, and we'll take who is left..."

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Roughneck

With the 4th Overall Pick the Flames select...the RZA, the GZA, U-God, Inspectah Deck, the Ghostface Killah, the WU-TANG CLAN!!!

haha love it. Haven't seen the racial draft in ages!

NSFW!