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		|  05-26-2014, 11:01 PM | #1761 |  
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					Originally Posted by #-3  Bunk, I know it is provincial. 
 But could you suggests the city pushes for a dual lane turn from Glenmore East to Stoney North. After you make the turn the Ramp is 2 lanes for like a KM, and the lane backs up for several turns of the light with the single lane turn.
 
 Stoney was a good bypass route for Deerfoot, for a few months. The wait just to get onto Stoney has gone from a minute or two, to nearly 10 minutes, Now that more people are using it.
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		|  05-26-2014, 11:04 PM | #1762 |  
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					Originally Posted by WhiteTiger  I've noticed that the new black police vehicles don't have have the non-emergency police number on them. Do you know why? Always thought it was a good idea that the number was on the old cruisers. |  
 Huh, I guess you're right. I'll see if I can find out why.
		 
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		|  05-27-2014, 10:09 AM | #1763 |  
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			I had quoted some of the posts about recent bike route complaints or questions I'd also like to complain or question about the riverpath system. 
 Coming from South Calgary I'm interested to know when the connection(s) in certain areas will return. I understand it might be awhile, but trying to ride my bike into downtown is awful. Certianly not encouraging at all.
 
 East side of river, under Deerfoot Trail, connection between DouglasDale and DouglasGlen
 
 West side of river, between southland (dog park) and Diamond Cove
 
 North side of Glenmore, river path bridge providing access to Beaver Dam Flats (I think that's what the park is called). Cutting through Odgen along Millican Road and Ogden Road is awful.
 
 Additionally, with the above, if you try to cut through refinery park the signage is awful, I've wasted 15 minutes two different days bombing around in there trying to get out.
 
 Inglewood, coming off the path about 9th avenue, after the bird sanctuary and the wetlands, there's one sign up saying "bow river pathway" pointing somewhere, but two days I've not found where I'm acutally supposed to go.
 
 5th street, 6th street and confluence way SE, no signs, no idea where to go, bikes on the road, sidewalk, grass, an area that I'm not sure if it's road parking or a bike lane.
 
 Anyway, just a bit of a disaster.
 
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		|  05-28-2014, 11:14 AM | #1764 |  
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			I've got a question, wtf is the city thinking here:http://www.calgarysun.com/2014/05/27...-park-eviction 
Most of the park are seniors, my sister and brother in law just spent over $50,000 buying one of these trailers 6 months ago which required city approval. The city approved the purchase and told them the park will stay until the last tenant moves (or dies) and now only a few months later they change their minds. Is there a developer lobbying for this land? Do some on council have a special interest in having this land developed for their own personal gains? Pretty sad as most of the seniors here will have nowhere to go and cannot even sell their trailers and will lose anywhere from 50-100K while the city offers them a $10,000 relocation fee. Pathetic.
  
The politicians in this city cry for more "affordable housing" yet they pull this.
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		|  05-28-2014, 11:43 AM | #1765 |  
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			It's not pathetic.  This is old and tired rental trailer park that needs to be relocated due to an array of issues, but primarily due to the infrastructure upgrade issues.  Ultimately, as the owner of the site, the City can definitely see a better and more beneficial use for it than a trailer park, which can be relocated relatively easy.  While it does cause some  inconveniences for the residents, they are only temporary in nature.
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		|  05-28-2014, 11:53 AM | #1766 |  
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					Originally Posted by CaptainYooh  It's not pathetic.  This is old and tired rental trailer park that needs to be relocated due to an array of issues, but primarily due to the infrastructure upgrade issues.  Ultimately, as the owner of the site, the City can definitely see a better and more beneficial use for it than a trailer park, which can be relocated relatively easy.  While it does cause some  inconveniences for the residents, they are only temporary in nature. |  
The problem isn't that they are relocating the park it is that they are closing it. With no park to go to the people that own homes on rented pads are left with an asset with little to no value as the market for mobile homes in a zero vacancy city is low.
		 
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		|  05-28-2014, 12:04 PM | #1767 |  
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			The best way to make housing affordable is to zone for increased supply instead of zoning for NIMBYs.
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		|  05-28-2014, 12:05 PM | #1768 |  
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					Originally Posted by Reaper  The problem isn't that they are relocating the park it is that they are closing it. With no park to go to the people that own homes on rented pads are left with an asset with little to no value as the market for mobile homes in a zero vacancy city is low. |  
Exactly. When my sister purchsed their home (in cash) their were given assurances that the park will be moved and not just closed. They are all blindsided by this move by the city.
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		|  05-28-2014, 12:10 PM | #1769 |  
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					Originally Posted by northcrunk  Exactly. When my sister purchsed their home (in cash) their were given assurances that the park will be moved and not just closed. They are all blindsided by this move by the city. |  
Do they have anything in writing or some sort of legally binding way?
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		|  05-28-2014, 12:11 PM | #1770 |  
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			I was of the impression the City offered to assist in relocating all of the residents and that a few private mobile home park operators offered spaces in their parks.  Bunk can provide more information on this.  The fact remains though, keeping this trailer park in operation is not feasible.
 You've got to look at the history of this issue.  It has been going on for at least ten years or so.  Every time the City wants to make a move, the residents call papers and start a public campaign against it and then it's postponed for another year.  There is not a single resident there that doesn't know about the park being closed eventually.
 
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		|  05-28-2014, 12:27 PM | #1771 |  
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			It is an unfortunate aspect of living on land you don't own. The owner has right to terminate your lease. From the looks of it, the lease is being terminated because the utility lines are no longer sustainable.
 Being offered $10k for moving expenses plus another $10k lump-sum AND getting 3 years notice that you have to move is quite generous.
 
 I certainly never got offered anything when my apartment leases were terminated.
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		|  05-28-2014, 12:28 PM | #1772 |  
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			The purchase of a home there has to be approved by the city. Pretty dirty to approve a purchase (there were two purchased this week alone) and advise someone that the park will be moved and then turn around a few days later and decide to close it.
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		|  05-28-2014, 12:33 PM | #1773 |  
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					Originally Posted by northcrunk  The purchase of a home there has to be approved by the city. Pretty dirty to approve a purchase (there were two purchased this week alone) and advise someone that the park will be moved and then turn around a few days later and decide to close it. |  
One would presume that part of the due diligence in a mobile home purchase would be the terms of the land lease.
 
It could be considered just as 'dirty' to not approve the sale because you are considering closing the park (with a 3 year timeline) and scuttle the sale that the vendor has set up. Especially if the decision was eventually made to not close the park.
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		|  05-28-2014, 12:34 PM | #1774 |  
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			In the end, the park almost certainly will be moved, it just might not be to a park that is owned by the city.
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		|  05-28-2014, 12:42 PM | #1775 |  
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			I recall reading about either a lawsuit or a dispute 4–5 years ago between the City and a private operator that had offered to relocate and accommodate everyone in this trailer park on his property at his own cost in exchange for the right to purchase the land at market price.  It was in the Herald.  I'll see if I can find a link. 
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		|  05-28-2014, 12:51 PM | #1776 |  
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			How long should the city have to keep the park open?  Surely there is a point where a decision can be made to close it,  right?  All you can really hope for as an owner is that they pull the plug fairly and evenly when they do,  so as to not prejudice anyone's position.
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		|  05-28-2014, 12:55 PM | #1777 |  
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			What is the lease rate for one of these trailer pads? Are utilities included, water/sewer/electricity?
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		|  05-28-2014, 12:57 PM | #1778 |  
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					Originally Posted by ranchlandsselling  What is the lease rate for one of these trailer pads? Are utilities included, water/sewer/electricity? |  
$500/m to rent the land, not sure what the utilities cost or if included.
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		|  05-28-2014, 12:58 PM | #1779 |  
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			Rental properties in the park are probably around $1000/month or more
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		|  05-28-2014, 01:04 PM | #1780 |  
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					Originally Posted by northcrunk  $500/m to rent the land, not sure what the utilities cost or if included. |  
Are you kidding me? $500 per month. Wondering how much it would cost to buy enough land just outside the city, a small enough parcel to house 173+ pads. Annual gross rent of $1,074,000. Obviously the rent would go down being just outside the city though.
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