Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > Fire on Ice: The Calgary Flames Forum
Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 05-18-2014, 05:42 PM   #1
jg13
Franchise Player
 
jg13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default R.J. Umberger requests trade out of Columbus

R.J. Umberger, Blue Jackets agree he’s done in Columbus.

Quote:
R.J. Umberger was a healthy scratch four times down the stretch for the Columbus Blue Jackets. Coach Todd Richards said it was because he wanted more speed in the lineup.

It’s a decision that has Umberger speeding for the exit.

The veteran forward requested a trade from the Blue Jackets, and GM Jarmo Kekalainen will apparently honor the request, according to Aaron Portzline’s sources.
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nh...134528333.html
jg13 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2014, 06:36 PM   #2
Major Major
First Line Centre
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Exp:
Default

I'm glad they all agree... I think Kekalainen will only be honouring the request if he pays to get rid of him. A bit too slow to be much use, but if the flames found a way to ditch Jones and could upgrade Pitt's 3rd for CBJ's 2nd, I'd welcome him.
Major Major is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2014, 06:46 PM   #3
CalgaryFan1988
Franchise Player
 
CalgaryFan1988's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Exp:
Default

3 more years at 4.6M? They would have to REALLY make it worth my while.
CalgaryFan1988 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to CalgaryFan1988 For This Useful Post:
Old 05-18-2014, 06:55 PM   #4
ForeverFlameFan
Franchise Player
 
ForeverFlameFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
Exp:
Default

Back to Philly he goes? Especially with that ridiculous contract, Philly has plenty of those.
ForeverFlameFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2014, 06:57 PM   #5
Caged Great
Franchise Player
 
Caged Great's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Wideman for Umberger?
__________________
Fireside Chat - The #1 Flames Fan Podcast - FiresideChat.ca
Caged Great is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2014, 06:57 PM   #6
devo22
Franchise Player
 
devo22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
Exp:
Default

can't see how they can get rid of him without taking on another bad contract in return
devo22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2014, 07:04 PM   #7
Canada 02
Franchise Player
 
Canada 02's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Exp:
Default

He held out for a year on Brian Burke. Doubt there is any chance he comes here
Canada 02 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2014, 07:05 PM   #8
EldrickOnIce
Franchise Player
 
EldrickOnIce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by devo22 View Post
can't see how they can get rid of him without taking on another bad contract in return
They could... If they send the Flames their first round pick as well
EldrickOnIce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2014, 07:25 PM   #9
Anduril
Franchise Player
 
Anduril's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caged Great View Post
Wideman for Umberger?
Rather keep Wideman. At worst, another two years of a RH PP QB defenseman.
Anduril is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Anduril For This Useful Post:
Old 05-18-2014, 07:26 PM   #10
jayswin
Celebrated Square Root Day
 
jayswin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caged Great View Post
Wideman for Umberger?
I don't see how that would be smart from the Flames side.
jayswin is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to jayswin For This Useful Post:
Old 05-18-2014, 07:27 PM   #11
Alberta_Beef
Franchise Player
 
Alberta_Beef's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce View Post
They could... If they send the Flames their first round pick as well
I'd be willing to do it for two seconds (2014 CBJ, 2015 Leafs) and the pick they get from the Kings for Gaborik (will be somewhere between 56th and 63rd)
Alberta_Beef is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Alberta_Beef For This Useful Post:
Old 05-18-2014, 07:27 PM   #12
Alberta_Beef
Franchise Player
 
Alberta_Beef's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by flameswin View Post
I don't see how that would be smart from the Flames side.
Yeah, unless they are including one hell of a sweetener.
Alberta_Beef is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2014, 07:37 PM   #13
Northendzone
Franchise Player
 
Northendzone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Exp:
Default

Whenever I think of rj, this comes to mind:

__________________
If I do not come back avenge my death

Last edited by Northendzone; 05-18-2014 at 07:40 PM.
Northendzone is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to Northendzone For This Useful Post:
Old 05-18-2014, 07:38 PM   #14
OzSome
Franchise Player
 
OzSome's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Major Major View Post
I'm glad they all agree... I think Kekalainen will only be honouring the request if he pays to get rid of him. A bit too slow to be much use, but if the flames found a way to ditch Jones and could upgrade Pitt's 3rd for CBJ's 2nd, I'd welcome him.
Rather keep David Jones. At least he is much faster and also big. Just need to use his size. Reason for Umberger being scratched the last 4 games was because of his speed (not fast enough). That is something the Flames are trying to improve on.
OzSome is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2014, 07:57 PM   #15
killer_carlson
Franchise Player
 
killer_carlson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Exp:
Default

trading Jones now would be to do so when his value is at a low. If he puts together a 30 to 40 game stretch where he actually skates and hits, especially if that period encroaches on the trade deadline, his value will skyrocket if the Flames eat salary on it.

I think he could be a huge trade chip for us. I'll be watching what kind of shape he shows up in at training camp.
__________________
"OOOOOOHHHHHHH those Russians" - Boney M
killer_carlson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2014, 08:45 PM   #16
chubeyr1
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Exp:
Default

Your talking about David Jones right? Must be a typo on the 30-40 game stretch where he skates and hits, you meant 3 or 4 games right? Love to be wrong but David Jones is gonna be here for a bit unless we buy him out. I don't hate him nor like him. He is purely roster filler and cap hit we need. One of the few guys that has not earned his spot on this team, his contract warrants we play him. Him and Shane Obrien, good sized boys that if played to potential could of paid dividend, but will never.

Quote:
Originally Posted by killer_carlson View Post
trading Jones now would be to do so when his value is at a low. If he puts together a 30 to 40 game stretch where he actually skates and hits, especially if that period encroaches on the trade deadline, his value will skyrocket if the Flames eat salary on it.

I think he could be a huge trade chip for us. I'll be watching what kind of shape he shows up in at training camp.
chubeyr1 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to chubeyr1 For This Useful Post:
Old 05-18-2014, 09:01 PM   #17
Imported_Aussie
First Line Centre
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Exp:
Default

Trading Jones now makes no sense since the return will not be worth it - at the worst he is our 3rd line RW, and if he gets on a streak, he can provide secondary offence. Also, if he gets on a streak, we can sell high, rather than at his lowest value. If Umberger had 2 years rather than 3, he would be worth grabbing in a cap dump trade to get an asset (young player or pick), but with 3 more years, his contract runs into when we want to start to ramp up to contention. At least Jones is done by then
Imported_Aussie is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Imported_Aussie For This Useful Post:
Old 05-19-2014, 12:40 AM   #18
FlameZilla
First Line Centre
 
FlameZilla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by chubeyr1 View Post
Your talking about David Jones right? Must be a typo on the 30-40 game stretch where he skates and hits, you meant 3 or 4 games right? Love to be wrong but David Jones is gonna be here for a bit unless we buy him out. I don't hate him nor like him. He is purely roster filler and cap hit we need. One of the few guys that has not earned his spot on this team, his contract warrants we play him. Him and Shane Obrien, good sized boys that if played to potential could of paid dividend, but will never.
I wouldn't tar him with the same brush as SOB. O'Brien is just terrible. Jones can be pretty good but is worn-down and broken.

Jones has shown flashes of ability. When he's healthy (lol) and confident he's exactly the sort of player we desperately need on this team. Having him on the roster allows us to stay nearer the cap floor, and it's a gamble that could pay off if he finds a bit of luck (or an adamantium skeleton.)

There's no point buying him out.
FlameZilla is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2014, 04:05 AM   #19
FAN
First Line Centre
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Exp:
Default

Haven't really paid attention to Umberger but what happened to him? In the past he was inconsistent but he was a pretty decent producer especially in the playoffs.
FAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2014, 08:44 AM   #20
OzSome
Franchise Player
 
OzSome's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FAN View Post
Haven't really paid attention to Umberger but what happened to him? In the past he was inconsistent but he was a pretty decent producer especially in the playoffs.
I haven't really watch any Columbus game. I think he had problem with injuries (back, shoulder and had concussion). I am not positive on that. It doesn't help his trade value also when head coach Todd Richard was saying he is not fast enough to warrant the healthy scratches in the playoffs. Teams these days are either looking for speed or big guys who can hit and score. I know he is 6'2" but with back and shoulder problem teams might shy away from him especially with his ridiculous amount of salary in the next 3 years.
OzSome is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:23 AM.

Calgary Flames
2024-25




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021 | See Our Privacy Policy