[News] Roman Horak to the KHL

[old-fart]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Yeah but since he signed a KHL deal he can't accept a qualifying offer.

Oilers just need to make him a qualifiying offer to retain his rights and I don't see why they don't.

Unsigned he won't count towards the 50 roster limit, and if he lights up the KHL his rights might have trade value down the line.

Are you forgetting who we are talking about here? Klown and MacTipsy.... Way to go, you gave them answer.

[boogerz]

Horak, Hartikainen, Rajala... and Lander will probably be the next to jump ship

The Oilers are quickly becoming a Euro tweener graveyard

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by boogerz

Horak, Hartikainen, Rajala... and Lander will probably be the next to jump ship

Why would any young euro player ever want to join the Oilers...?

Oilers just re-signed Lander today
http://oilers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?...id=DL|EDM|home

probably another factor on why Horak went to the KHL. Lander and he played similar roles for the Oilers

[Plett25]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

Horak was vastly overrated by our fanbase for a long time.

He's a good AHL player but clearly not a very good NHLer - jack of all trades master of none (as evidenced by his inability to crack Calgary or Edmonton's rosters regularly).

I don't think he was overvalued by Flames fans, he was generally regarded as a tweener and a long-shot to stick in the NHL, but we liked him anyway. How can you not like a player who worked hard, had a good attitude and played a 2 way game.

And we wanted him to succeed to rub Erixon's nose in it.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by Plett25

I don't think he was overvalued by Flames fans, he was generally regarded as a tweener and a long-shot to stick in the NHL, but we liked him anyway. How can you not like a player who worked hard, had a good attitude and played a 2 way game.

And we wanted him to succeed to rub Erixon's nose in it.

Pretty muich this. I was just cheering on Horak just as a big FU to Tom.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Plett25

I don't think he was overvalued by Flames fans, he was generally regarded as a tweener and a long-shot to stick in the NHL, but we liked him anyway. How can you not like a player who worked hard, had a good attitude and played a 2 way game.

And we wanted him to succeed to rub Erixon's nose in it.

Yeah he was and the evidence is in the prospect rankings thing we did over the summer where guys like him and Cundari were ranked ludicrously high by fans.

[Henry Fool]

Horak made a good impression in his first camp. We were pleasantly surprised that he looked like a hardworking guy who can play in the NHL. I don't remember anyone making ludicrous predictions about his career.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Yeah he was and the evidence is in the prospect rankings thing we did over the summer where guys like him and Cundari were ranked ludicrously high by fans.

I think it is also fair to say that, in general, the organization didn't seem to have a strong motivation to stick through it with Horak. I got the feeling that there was an underlying reluctance to champion his development for reasons that were not derived solely from his performance on the ice.

I hope the best for kid.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Henry Fool

Horak made a good impression in his first camp. We were pleasantly surprised that he looked like a hardworking guy who can play in the NHL. I don't remember anyone making ludicrous predictions about his career.

My how some have short memories. Most of you ranked him higher than Granlund and Reinhart last summer. The proof is there;

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=129804

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

My how some have short memories. Most of you ranked him higher than Granlund and Reinhart last summer. The proof is there;

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=129804

Are you trying to prove how useless fans are at ranking prospects?

[theoforever]

Horak was further along in his development. Reinhart wasn't putting points up and we knew nothing about Grandlund's ability to adopt to NA hockey.

Perhaps Horak could still become an NHL player, who knows.
No crystal ball.

[Ruttiger]

Originally Posted by Wood

Smid for Brossoit lol

Considering the season Brossoit just had as a first year pro, you may want to give it a few more years before laughing out loud at Smid for Brossoit.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

Are you trying to prove how useless fans are at ranking prospects?

No just proving that fans here overrated Horak. At least I can go back to those threads and pick out the posts where I was saying the same things then as I am today that he was going to be an AHL tweener.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

My how some have short memories. Most of you ranked him higher than Granlund and Reinhart last summer. The proof is there;

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=129804

With Granlund it was unknown how he'd translate his game to N.A.
Reinhart didn't impress in his first pro year. It was a reasonable ranking.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by theoforever

Horak was further along in his development. Reinhart wasn't putting points up and we knew nothing about Grandlund's ability to adopt to NA hockey.

Perhaps Horak could still become an NHL player, who knows.
No crystal ball.

I dunno. I felt both guys were better prospects at the time without the use of a crystal ball.

[theoforever]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I dunno. I felt both guys were better prospects at the time without the use of a crystal ball.

Nobody can be as insightful as you are.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

No just proving that fans here overrated Horak. At least I can go back to those threads and pick out the posts where I was saying the same things then as I am today that he was going to be an AHL tweener.

Well what you showed is Flames fans did not consider him a top 10 prospect..... I don't know if I'd say that overrated. When you are looking down that depth chart, arguing over a 11th ranked and 12th ranked is quite marginal, so I don't think it proves squat.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

My how some have short memories. Most of you ranked him higher than Granlund and Reinhart last summer. The proof is there;

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=129804

What does this have to do with Horak being over-rated? I would say this ranking actually makes sense as it has a proven quantity over some players who not many knew about. I can understand that, especially without gloating about it. Horak was a guy expected to compete for a position and many others were sti works in progress. Some saw Horak as being closer, without understanding how quickly players can rise or drop. Going with what you know is the law of the jungle in the NHL, which is why many young players never get their chance.

For the record, I selected Granlund early, just as I did with Reinhart, but I completely understand why people would have liked Horak over two players coming off of less than inspiring years.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Ruttiger

Considering the season Brossoit just had as a first year pro, you may want to give it a few more years before laughing out loud at Smid for Brossoit.

Great in the ECHL, abysmal in the AHL. You might want to wait a few years yourself before you start bragging.

That said, I think he will undoubtedly have an NHL career. The long term question is whether the Oilers organization Dubnyks him.

[Ruttiger]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Great in the ECHL, abysmal in the AHL. You might want to wait a few years yourself before you start bragging.

That said, I think he will undoubtedly have an NHL career. The long term question is whether the Oilers organization Dubnyks him.

Who's bragging? As with most trades, the ultimate result usually can't be determined for a few years.

Check my posting history - I call a spade a spade when it comes to the Oilers.