The Alison Redford transgressions thread. Update- Redford quits.

[OldDutch]

Originally Posted by darklord700

So it's only $100 per day she misses at the Legislative session. What's the big deal to her then? There's only a limited number of legislative sessions a year, even if she misses them all it would only amount to maybe $5K of dock pay which is peanuts comparing to her $134K salary.

The more I think about it, the more I think her reason for missing is mental health issues (claimed/diagnosed depression). It is the only thing I can think of that would allow for Hancock to not be throwing her under the bus, and the speaker being so obtuse. It is also a very government tolerable thing to miss work with.

I have been on here before saying she is self entitled and looks after herself and boosters first. However, I am not against her missing and getting pay if it is crippling depression, and was in treatment, and maybe she is. To me that is no different than a physical illness, and does affect her judgement on behalf of her constituents. Maybe her doctor told her to get away and focus on herself to get over it.

If this is in fact the case, things may get a bit more complicated. If she was down there as part of doctor advised mental recovery is that ok? Is it better she misses work when her judgement is impaired? Why is a physical illness treated different than mental?

I know what I am saying isn't popular, but it is a possibility. Also, given her smarts she knows what she is doing, she feels this is within' her rights, and maybe this one is. Problem is how legit the mental issue is, you can't see it, and who knows given her history if it is legitimate debilitating, or maybe this is more of her milking a mild illness to get out of facing the music.

Who knows, honestly I think she should resign but that ain't happening for many reasons. I am going to be really interested to see if we ever find out why she was away, something makes me think it will come out sooner or later, and as a politician I would be careful to criticize her publicly until I knew.

[Resolute 14]

The Speaker has been obtuse from day one. That he is acting true to form is hardly surprising. Regardless, if she has a legitimate reason for not being able to attend, then she should be explaining what that reason is. Because without further explanation, people are going to choose the most logical explanation, and the most logical explanation at this point is her deep-rooted sense of entitlement and that she continues to believe she is above the rules.

[monkeyman]

Originally Posted by dion

hey calgary-elbow Alberta thanks for electing me suckas!

fyp

[1stLand]

She needs a break from all the terrible public scrutiny.

I think she deserves a break. A time for healing

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by OldDutch

The more I think about it, the more I think her reason for missing is mental health issues (claimed/diagnosed depression). It is the only thing I can think of that would allow for Hancock to not be throwing her under the bus, and the speaker being so obtuse. It is also a very government tolerable thing to miss work with.

I have been on here before saying she is self entitled and looks after herself and boosters first. However, I am not against her missing and getting pay if it is crippling depression, and was in treatment, and maybe she is. To me that is no different than a physical illness, and does affect her judgement on behalf of her constituents. Maybe her doctor told her to get away and focus on herself to get over it.

If this is in fact the case, things may get a bit more complicated. If she was down there as part of doctor advised mental recovery is that ok? Is it better she misses work when her judgement is impaired? Why is a physical illness treated different than mental?

I know what I am saying isn't popular, but it is a possibility. Also, given her smarts she knows what she is doing, she feels this is within' her rights, and maybe this one is. Problem is how legit the mental issue is, you can't see it, and who knows given her history if it is legitimate debilitating, or maybe this is more of her milking a mild illness to get out of facing the music.

Who knows, honestly I think she should resign but that ain't happening for many reasons. I am going to be really interested to see if we ever find out why she was away, something makes me think it will come out sooner or later, and as a politician I would be careful to criticize her publicly until I knew.

Dude, I'm sorry but not everything is caused by mental illness, unless she suffers from malignant narcissism.

She's sitting in palm springs staying in a nice hotel with her daughter, and either playing the poor pitiful me everyone's a big meany and I don't want to face criticism, which is what she's somewhat famous for. Or she's suffering from I don't give a sh%titis and here's my middle finger to my constituents, my party and my province.

Personally, I think that she should stay down there and not come back, but quite leaching off of the taxpayers and acting like a princess.

Her party is all too happy for her to stay away so that she doesn't face hard questions and further bury a party in dire need of a good swift kick in the a$$.

But not everyone who does stuff like this is mentally ill. Like Redford there are a lot of jerks out there.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by 1stLand

She needs a break from all the terrible public scrutiny.

I think she deserves a break. A time for healing

She needs to be open and honest with her party and most of all her consituents about the nature of her absense. Her silence will do her more harm than good. It will be a lasting memory that people will have about her.

[burn_this_city]

No one will remember that she no showed after getting the boot. Honestly this whole outrage over her absence is a joke. Her party has a majority, it's not like her absence is hindering any legislation from being passed. The only people who might suffer is her riding, but even then I doubt it. Everyone wanted her gone, now they want her to show up in shame, for what? To exact some moral justice? It's not like we would get any additional value out of her. Never seen people hate someone so much for perceived slights.

[Dion]

The plot thickens......

Sasa Kovacevic told the Herald he spotted Redford at Lulu California Bistro — a popular Palm Springs restaurant — the morning of Easter Sunday, two days before the legislature resumed sitting last week.

Kovacevic, an Edmonton resident, said he and his sister were waiting for a table when a woman and girl walked into the eatery. At first he paid no attention to the pair.

“She said she had a reservation for Redford,” Kovacevic said in a phone interview Saturday. “The name caught me so I looked up and I was like, ‘Oh, that’s Alison Redford.’”

Kovacevic said Redford and the girl, presumably her daughter, Sarah, were with them in the waiting area for a few minutes.

“She was dressed very casually. It was quite warm, so you know, just like a nice light dress. She seemed OK, hanging out, relaxing I guess,” he said.

“I think she realized I knew who she was. We exchanged a couple glances, but after, she wouldn’t make eye contact with me.”

An employee who answered the phone at Lulu California Bistro confirmed that Redford had a reservation at the restaurant at 11:30 on the morning of April 20.

Speaker Gene Zwozdesky could not be reached for comment, but his assistant said Friday the process is based on the honour system.

Zwozdesky’s office is not obligated to approve the request for absence. “These are honourable members and the Speaker would receive the notification and he would take the member at their word, obviously,” said Bev Alenius.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/po...985/story.html

[burn_this_city]

Riveting stuff, did she order the freshly squeezed orange juice or opt for the grapefruit juice? I'm glad the media is devoting so much time to such urgent matters, God forbid they'd tackle the serious issues.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

No one will remember that she no showed after getting the boot. Honestly this whole outrage over her absence is a joke. Her party has a majority, it's not like her absence is hindering any legislation from being passed. The only people who might suffer is her riding, but even then I doubt it. Everyone wanted her gone, now they want her to show up in shame, for what? To exact some moral justice? It's not like we would get any additional value out of her. Never seen people hate someone so much for perceived slights.

Do you want your tax dollars paying for an MLA who doesn't show up for work?

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by Dion

Do you want your tax dollars paying for an MLA who doesn't show up for work?

We pay for MLAs, Senators, MPs, civil servants, ect who don't show up for work. Last time I checked we don't have grainy images of them front page on the Herald. The mob won't be satisfied until we've burned this witch on a pyre.

[OldDutch]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Dude, I'm sorry but not everything is caused by mental illness, unless she suffers from malignant narcissism.

She's sitting in palm springs staying in a nice hotel with her daughter, and either playing the poor pitiful me everyone's a big meany and I don't want to face criticism, which is what she's somewhat famous for. Or she's suffering from I don't give a sh%titis and here's my middle finger to my constituents, my party and my province.

Personally, I think that she should stay down there and not come back, but quite leaching off of the taxpayers and acting like a princess.

Her party is all too happy for her to stay away so that she doesn't face hard questions and further bury a party in dire need of a good swift kick in the a$$.

But not everyone who does stuff like this is mentally ill. Like Redford there are a lot of jerks out there.

I didn't mean to infer that she does have depression, just that she might, and if she does is that a legit excuse? If she has a doctors order to stay away, or strong suggestion she not go to work. My question is that ignoring the person (I dislike her more than you know, her actions angered and affected me as a flood victim huge), would mental illness in any other MLA be fine? Unless your view is mental illness is something you just suck up, then probably yes.

So with that said, we have no idea why she was down there. I suggested maybe a doctor told her to get away from the place that is depressing her and refocus. She was at the restaurant with her daughter and by accounts was muted. Also, so what if it was expensive? Is she supposed to retreat to Saskatoon and eat Burger King to start feeling better? Or should she go somewhere that actually is pleasant and tranquil to be? Keep in mind she paid her own way this time, only the MLA pay is in question.

I am not trying to play the mental illness card on everything, just asking a what if. I think we actually agree on who she is and where she should go. I agree she should come clean, but as your post proves, mental illness is stigmatized by many as something that isn't actually legitimate, it's an excuse. That people do things cause their just bad people.

Although I also dislike Redford, I also think the right thing is for her to forfeit the pay in question given her specific history. All I am saying is lets wait and see if she comes clean. Right now seeing an Instagram and hitting the roof feels good, but it might not be the whole story.

For now I prefer to focus on the many BS things she has done that are way worse, the penthouse, the flood, single source contracts, bullying, Africa trip, etc. This one I am just going to park my rage until I am sure she just went to Palm Springs to go on a bender with her daughter.

Even though I am not defending her, just asking what if, I know that ain't popular here, so I'll leave it at that and allow the pitchforks and torching to continue.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

We pay for MLAs, Senators, MPs, civil servants, ect who don't show up for work. Last time I checked we don't have grainy images of them front page on the Herald.

God forbid taxpayers object to possible misuse of taxpayers money.

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by Dion

God forbid taxpayers object to possible misuse of taxpayers money.

That's my favorite part, we're positively obsessed over trivial amounts of money while millions are wasted on health care boards, school boards, no tender contracts, ect. None of this stuff gets half the coverage that Queen Allison and Nelson Mandela's funeral got.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

That's my favorite part, we're positively obsessed over trivial amounts of money while millions are wasted on health care boards, school boards, no tender contracts, ect. None of this stuff gets half the coverage that Queen Allison and Nelson Mandela's funeral got.

I suggest you watch question period in the legislature. All of that stuff gets more attention than you might think. The WRP and the rest are doing a good job of pointing out the above and trying to make the govt accountable.

http://assemblyonline.assembly.ab.ca...tEntityId=2049

[Handsome B. Wonderful]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

That's my favorite part, we're positively obsessed over trivial amounts of money while millions are wasted on health care boards, school boards, no tender contracts, ect.

So that excuses her behaviour? Because money is wasted elsewhere she's allowed to be an a-hole?

[RedHot25]

Originally Posted by Dion

The plot thickens......







http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/po...985/story.html

So, from the quotes you provided, she went somewhere during the Easter long weekend? I stayed at home.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

We pay for MLAs, Senators, MPs, civil servants, ect who don't show up for work. Last time I checked we don't have grainy images of them front page on the Herald. The mob won't be satisfied until we've burned this witch on a pyre.

This "witch" has nobody to blame but herself.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Dion

I suggest you watch question period in the legislature. All of that stuff gets more attention than you might think. The WRP and the rest are doing a good job of pointing out the above and trying to make the govt accountable.

http://assemblyonline.assembly.ab.ca...tEntityId=2049

Well when you do watch QP, take note of how many MLA's are away in general. It's clearly not a requirement for the job to make efforts to attend every possible time. That doesn't excuse blatant skipping out, obviously. Maybe she's just on vacation? People do tend to do that sort of thing from time to time.

[4X4]

Oh come on. Vacation? For a month? While the legislature is sitting? Nice timing.

You guys that are defending her must have some pretty nice jobs where you can just not show up for work for extended periods of time, and still collect most of your salary?

This isn't so much a witch hunt as it is the public being pissed right off at this person for blatantly abusing public money, so much so, that she got run out of the premiers office, and now, almost like a FU to the voters, she's continuing to abuse public money by not showing up for work.

Translate that into company money, and there's not a company in this province that wouldn't fire her for it. TFB that she's in the public eye. She took the job, now she needs to show the hell up.

If it's too much heat for her, she needs to quit.